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Adam Johnson pleads GUILTY

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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Have to question her standards after reading that she said they'll still be friends though.

    Standard breaking up words!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    No-ones ever broken up with Jelle though. He wouldn't know. He only breaks up with people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    True enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,774 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Jury out
    12-0 result wanted by Judge
    A lot to ask on all charges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭Sanity_Saviour




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Not guilty of one so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    i guess its more a holding out for what sentence on the one he pleaded guilty to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Didn't see that coming (ahem)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Jury back in now

    Reckon he's guilty on count 2......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Jury back in now

    Reckon he's guilty on count 2......

    Yep - guilty


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Up to 10 years with 5 years minimum - ouch!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Up to 10 years with 5 years minimum - ouch!


    Thats harsh ... for kissing a 15 year old jaysus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Thats harsh ... for kissing a 15 year old jaysus

    "Sexual touching" too, whatever that means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    "Sexual touching" too, whatever that means.

    He dropped the laimh.

    Still 5-10 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Coat22 wrote: »
    He dropped the laimh.

    Still 5-10 years?

    Your telling me he will do 5 years for that, that cant be right can it.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The judge told him off for joking in court supposedly and he was apparently heard saying during the trial "Hope this is over by Friday, it's a bit boring now"


    Good enough for him. Don't be touching kids again Adam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Your telling me he will do 5 years for that, that cant be right can it.

    He sexually touched an under aged girl and groomed her. He won't even do 5 years, he'll get out early for good behaviour if he's a good boy. Pity for him, should have thought of what he was doing when he was doing it if he didn't want to go to jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Gorgeous girlfriend, a daughter, more money then he can spend in a lifetime and living the dream of millions.

    All thrown away to finger a 15 year old.

    What an utter moron. His arrogance was astounding throughout the case. Lets see how arrogant he is now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,246 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Gorgeous girlfriend, a daughter, more money then he can spend in a lifetime and living the dream of millions.

    All thrown away to finger a 15 year old.


    What an utter moron. His arrogance was astounding throughout the case. Lets see how arrogant he is now.

    Did you really have to write it like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Thats harsh ... for kissing a 15 year old jaysus

    Jesus wept. Is this the type of thinking that some people have? He knew well what he was doing and her age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Jesus wept. Is this the type of thinking that some people have? He knew well what he was doing and her age.

    Yes but 5 to 10 years, if this was some bloke you went to school everyone would think 5 to 10 years was crazy but because he is a footballer he deserves it. This may or may not be your view point but it does seem the general feel of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Yes but 5 to 10 years, if this was some bloke you went to school everyone would think 5 to 10 years was crazy but because he is a footballer he deserves it. This may or may not be your view point but it does seem the general feel of the thread.

    You think? I think it's a perfectly reasonable sentence. Total abuse of power/fame etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    That_Guy wrote: »
    You think? I think it's a perfectly reasonable sentence. Total abuse of power/fame etc.

    Yes i think it would be incredibly harsh, not that i think he will do anything near that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Yes i think it would be incredibly harsh, not that i think he will do anything near that.

    Sure all he did was groom an underage girl, sent her illicit messages and gave her a kiss.

    Christ. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Sure all he did was groom an underage girl, sent her illicit messages and gave her a kiss.

    Christ. :rolleyes:

    Thats your response to why he should get 10 years. You can kill a man and get less than half that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,119 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Thats your response to why he should get 10 years. You can kill a man and get less than half that.

    Well, the reason he'll get proper time is that he admitted instigating this whole process with the intent of it leading to sexual activity. Using his position in society to coerce a child to do things she would not ordinarily do. He admitted that he intended to go as far as he could get away with. Was then found guilty of taking it further than just a kiss, and actually penetrating her with his fingers, with further texts suggesting he intended to go further still. And then, after all this, he pleaded innocent for the following 11 months, leaving a young girl on the receiving end of idiots abuse calling her a slut/homewrecker/liar/golddigger etc, when she was the victim.

    Children are always more fiercely protected by law than your average citizen, and rightly so. That's why he'll deservedly get a 5+ year sentence, and probably actually serve 1 or 2 of it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Thats your response to why he should get 10 years. You can kill a man and get less than half that.

    A person in power (guard, social worker etc) over here would certainly be given 15+ years if they were found to be in violation of such acts.

    I'm not sure what the equivalent is in the UK but I imagine it isn't far off. Whether you care to admit it or not, Adam Johnson is in a state of power somewhat.

    He may not serve his entire sentence but if he did indeed penetrate her with his fingers and was still pursuing other interests then I can't believe that you would still deem his sentencing as "harsh".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Well, the reason he'll get proper time is that he admitted instigating this whole process with the intent of it leading to sexual activity. Using his position in society to coerce a child to do things she would not ordinarily do. He admitted that he intended to go as far as he could get away with. Was then found guilty of taking it further than just a kiss, and actually penetrating her with his fingers, with further texts suggesting he intended to go further still.

    Children are always more fiercely protected by law than your average citizen, and rightly so. That's why he'll deservedly get a 5+ year sentence, and probably actually serve 1 or 2 of it.

    I understand children should be more protected but the fact that she was 15 should be taken into account. Although it should also be taken into account he would have in no doubt gone further if given the chance. Thanks for your reply, it just sometimes you cant even say a sentence is harsh without people thinking your defending him in any way. For a forum that loves football we sure do hate footballers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    niallo27 wrote: »
    I understand children should be more protected but the fact that she was 15 should be taken into account. Although it should also be taken into account he would have in no doubt gone further if given the chance. Thanks for your reply, it just sometimes you cant even say a sentence is harsh without people thinking your defending him in any way. For a forum that loves football we sure do hate footballers.

    Don't you mean hate footballers who groom and sexually assault children?


    Bit of a difference than hating footballers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    niallo27 wrote: »
    I understand children should be more protected but the fact that she was 15 should be taken into account.

    Legally she's still a child. A child is anybody under the age of 18. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?
    For a forum that loves football we sure do hate footballers.

    Just ones who abuse their power by engaging in sexual activity with minors.


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