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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning link in OP 20/3
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Mitch Connor wrote: »It is the reason I want a new manager now, to be honest. Not so much to save this season (which is beyond it imo) but to make sure we are as well positioned for next season as we can be.
Would agree overall.
Obviously this is all speculation, but my beliefs are as follows, as things stand.
LVG is a dead-man walking; I wouldn't be shocked if those "Win the next two games or you're gone" games were the breaking point, and we started looking for the new manager at that time.
I think if Giggs was going to get it, he'd already be manager; given he's already there and in place, a transition to Giggs would be utterly seemless. There's been reports that Giggs has refused the interm role, but I feel if he was going to be given the job fulltime, then that probably would have happened over the January window. Would imagine he won't want to be Jose's #2, nor will Jose want him as a #2, so chances are Giggs will be off too, once LVG goes.
At this stage, I'm hoping the Jose thing is pretty much done, but Jose has said he doesn't want in this season (fans would expect possibly too much of him at this stage) so he waits till the summer, and spends the next few weeks analyzing and scouting, as well as setting up his backroom.
Since Giggs doesn't want it unless its fulltime, and Jose doesn't want it till the summer, the choice was either LVG till the summer or appoint someone else for a few month, be it Warren Joyce, Harry Redknapp (:P) or someone else. They decided that no available short-term replacement would offer much guarantees about anything. Also, a short term hiring would probably lead to the firings of both LVG and Giggs (if Giggs didn't want the role short term, there'd be little other choice...). So rather than a convoluted mess both now AND in the summer, write the season off in preperation for the summer.
So as it stands, let LVG "retire" in the summer gracefully; announce it in a few weeks (if/once EL and FA Cup are gone) that he'll be leaving and that Jose will assume the role in June. Give Giggs till the summer to sort another job out so he can bow out gracefully too; a statement about "proving himself", etc. Jose comes in. Fingers crossed he's already given his list to Woodward (and, if rumours are true, any new Director appointed) and we make moves for players quickly, both in and out. And we start fresh with Jose and new players in August. With no CL to worry about, Jose will have an easier run at the PL title too; he, much as LVG did last season, will have the easiest first season imaginable since expectations will be lower, and there'll be less games to play.
Of course, all that could be wishful thinking, a blissful ignorance. Most of its based on reports of various degrees of credibility. So knowing my luck, we'll wait till 4th is mathematically impossible, fire LVG and appoint Giggs
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Would agree overall.
Obviously this is all speculation, but my beliefs are as follows, as things stand.
LVG is a dead-man walking; I wouldn't be shocked if those "Win the next two games or you're gone" games were the breaking point, and we started looking for the new manager at that time.
I think if Giggs was going to get it, he'd already be manager; given he's already there and in place, a transition to Giggs would be utterly seemless. There's been reports that Giggs has refused the interm role, but I feel if he was going to be given the job fulltime, then that probably would have happened over the January window. Would imagine he won't want to be Jose's #2, nor will Jose want him as a #2, so chances are Giggs will be off too, once LVG goes.
At this stage, I'm hoping the Jose thing is pretty much done, but Jose has said he doesn't want in this season (fans would expect possibly too much of him at this stage) so he waits till the summer, and spends the next few weeks analyzing and scouting, as well as setting up his backroom.
Since Giggs doesn't want it unless its fulltime, and Jose doesn't want it till the summer, the choice was either LVG till the summer or appoint someone else for a few month, be it Warren Joyce, Harry Redknapp (:P) or someone else. They decided that no available short-term replacement would offer much guarantees about anything. Also, a short term hiring would probably lead to the firings of both LVG and Giggs (if Giggs didn't want the role short term, there'd be little other choice...). So rather than a convoluted mess both now AND in the summer, write the season off in preperation for the summer.
So as it stands, let LVG "retire" in the summer gracefully; announce it in a few weeks (if/once EL and FA Cup are gone) that he'll be leaving and that Jose will assume the role in June. Give Giggs till the summer to sort another job out so he can bow out gracefully too; a statement about "proving himself", etc. Jose comes in. Fingers crossed he's already given his list to Woodward (and, if rumours are true, any new Director appointed) and we make moves for players quickly, both in and out. And we start fresh with Jose and new players in August. With no CL to worry about, Jose will have an easier run at the PL title too; he, much as LVG did last season, will have the easiest first season imaginable since expectations will be lower, and there'll be less games to play.
Of course, all that could be wishful thinking, a blissful ignorance. Most of its based on reports of various degrees of credibility. So knowing my luck, we'll wait till 4th is mathematically impossible, fire LVG and appoint Giggs
This is exactly what I hope is happening. It is the only explanation that makes any sense and ties in with how the club is behaving now.
The thoughts of a Utd with Mourinho at the helm going head to head against City with Pep at the helm is a mouthwatering prospect. Also the fact that the club have been completely silent amid all this intense Mourinho speculation is very telling. I'm desperately hoping it is anyway!0 -
Would agree overall.
Obviously this is all speculation, but my beliefs are as follows, as things stand.
LVG is a dead-man walking; I wouldn't be shocked if those "Win the next two games or you're gone" games were the breaking point, and we started looking for the new manager at that time.
I think if Giggs was going to get it, he'd already be manager; given he's already there and in place, a transition to Giggs would be utterly seemless. There's been reports that Giggs has refused the interm role, but I feel if he was going to be given the job fulltime, then that probably would have happened over the January window. Would imagine he won't want to be Jose's #2, nor will Jose want him as a #2, so chances are Giggs will be off too, once LVG goes.
At this stage, I'm hoping the Jose thing is pretty much done, but Jose has said he doesn't want in this season (fans would expect possibly too much of him at this stage) so he waits till the summer, and spends the next few weeks analyzing and scouting, as well as setting up his backroom.
Since Giggs doesn't want it unless its fulltime, and Jose doesn't want it till the summer, the choice was either LVG till the summer or appoint someone else for a few month, be it Warren Joyce, Harry Redknapp (:P) or someone else. They decided that no available short-term replacement would offer much guarantees about anything. Also, a short term hiring would probably lead to the firings of both LVG and Giggs (if Giggs didn't want the role short term, there'd be little other choice...). So rather than a convoluted mess both now AND in the summer, write the season off in preperation for the summer.
So as it stands, let LVG "retire" in the summer gracefully; announce it in a few weeks (if/once EL and FA Cup are gone) that he'll be leaving and that Jose will assume the role in June. Give Giggs till the summer to sort another job out so he can bow out gracefully too; a statement about "proving himself", etc. Jose comes in. Fingers crossed he's already given his list to Woodward (and, if rumours are true, any new Director appointed) and we make moves for players quickly, both in and out. And we start fresh with Jose and new players in August. With no CL to worry about, Jose will have an easier run at the PL title too; he, much as LVG did last season, will have the easiest first season imaginable since expectations will be lower, and there'll be less games to play.
Of course, all that could be wishful thinking, a blissful ignorance. Most of its based on reports of various degrees of credibility. So knowing my luck, we'll wait till 4th is mathematically impossible, fire LVG and appoint Giggs
There is an interim manager free at the minute, don't think he lives too far from Manchester neither.........0 -
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bucketybuck wrote: »In football terms we are already at the south pole tickling some penguins, how much more south do we need to be?
impossible to go any further south if you are at the south pole, your next step is North
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