Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 15/16

23-02-2016 08:28PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

and by February it might be the only thing left to play for.....

That doesn't make it a better competition to win. That's a sign of an underperforming season.

23-02-2016 08:39PM

I agree with you BlackBull that we are all allowed our own opinions and desires.

I was simply agreeing with Magico re the League cup.

Some supporters get very opinionated and question the support of some fans,based on their own desires, and I think that's unfair. It has to go both ways.

I don't care a jot about the League cup but any supporter that gets a thrill from winning it is more than entitled to do so.

Too many opinions are expressed as matter of fact.

5starpool · 23-02-2016 08:44PM

Well I for one really want us to win and I'll be gutted if we don't.

garra · 23-02-2016 08:46PM

Knex. wrote: »

How are the lads?

Don't know about ye, but it was actually nice to have a weekend without football for once. Looking forward to the final next weekend. Hopefully we can gain some momentum from a great European night in Anfield on Thursday.

We have absolutely zero ability to control a game, so we really need the trio up front to provide the spark.

True that. The only time we have looked remotely in control is when playing vastly inferior opposition. Kloppo is the antithesis of Rafa in terms of style it seems, although that can't be confirmed until he has brought in more of his own players.

Charlie19 · 23-02-2016 09:01PM

I think a League Cup win is very appealing at the moment, especially when taking into account that CL qualification is looking near impossible the way things stand in the league.

Plus I think it would mean a little more to the squad compared to when Kenny won it, because back then It felt more like a going away present rather than something to build on.

Charlie19 · 23-02-2016 09:05PM

https://twitter.com/BeesGetwest/status/702229472884486145

He has scored since that tweet.

23-02-2016 09:05PM

Generally when we've one the League Cup we've been successful on other fronts too

It'd be a great start to Klopp's reign ..... nice celebration, get the trophy cabinet unlocked for a bit, a new piece of silverware about the place.

Hopefully we'll be after a nice result on Thurs night heading into the final on Sunday, win that, bit of momentum.... no -ives there imo.

Harry Palmr · 23-02-2016 09:15PM

Ter Stegan has had a good game (so far)

Charlie19 · 23-02-2016 09:18PM

Now has an assist.

https://twitter.com/OfficialWolves/status/702239600551600128

Super-Rush · 23-02-2016 09:19PM

Why is the game on Thursday kicking off at 6?

Harry Palmr · 23-02-2016 09:21PM

Because the first leg was the late game.

Sergi Canos subbed in the Brentford game

Charlie19 · 23-02-2016 09:23PM

It's common enough to have games on at six and even earlier.

I think it's for tv coverage.

54and56 · 23-02-2016 09:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If a team starts the season competing in four competitions then the League Cup is the least prestigious by some distance.

That may be true but if you enter a competition in which you are competing against all other top clubs and you win it it is a significant achievement, perhaps not as prestigious or historical as the FA cup but so what? It's still a competition win and that is what football is all about. Winning the League cup this year will/could be a springboard for "more prestigious" success in the years to come.

23-02-2016 09:37PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

That may be true but if you enter a competition in which you are competing against all other top clubs and you win it it is a significant achievement, perhaps not as prestigious or historical as the FA cup but so what? It's still a competition win and that is what football is all about. Winning the League cup this year will/could be a springboard for "more prestigious" success in the years to come.

I don't think you are really competing against all the other top clubs. You are playing against second 11's in many cases. Even teams that are finishing in the bottom half, of the league, put out their second 11 in the league cup.

'It's still a competition win and that is what football is all about.' - that's not what it's all about for me.

Will / Could be a springboard ? - I don't buy into that. It is what it is in that moment.

Turtyturd · 23-02-2016 09:38PM

Hope 'Louie' sends John Henry a thank you text. Just got a firsthand glimpse of what coulda been.

marklazarcovic · 23-02-2016 09:55PM

Jesus the gunners fans are a bitter lot

~Rebel~ · 23-02-2016 09:57PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

That may be true but if you enter a competition in which you are competing against all other top clubs and you win it it is a significant achievement, perhaps not as prestigious or historical as the FA cup but so what? It's still a competition win and that is what football is all about. Winning the League cup this year will/could be a springboard for "more prestigious" success in the years to come.

IMO, any time you win a competition, it's an achievement worth celebrating. In every competition, from day one the odds are against you, so beating the odds is always something to be happy about. Because why not?

Just because it's less prestigious than other competitions doesn't really mean much...that's life, there are level's of highs. Just because the birth of your firstborn is better than your promotion at work doesn't mean you can't still celebrate your promotion.

We've few enough opportunities to be happy. Let's not count our chickens though, even at this stage with just the final to play, we're still the underdogs.

Skylinehead · 23-02-2016 10:25PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Jesus the gunners fans are a bitter lot

Hi

You can talk to us you know, we don't bite!

Harry Palmr · 23-02-2016 10:44PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Jesus the gunners fans are a bitter lot

To be fair getting ritually bummed by Barca every other year must get on their norbs.

5starpool · 23-02-2016 10:52PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

To be fair getting ritually bummed by Barca every other year must get on their norbs.

I'm nearly as glad that we don't have to face them as annoyed that we are not in a position to ever face them.

54and56 · 23-02-2016 11:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You are playing against second 11's in many cases. Even teams that are finishing in the bottom half, of the league, put out their second 11 in the league cup.

Sure even Man City put out a bunch of kids in the FA cup against Chelsea at the weekend. So what? That's what squads are for. Our squad vs everyone else's squad and we're in a final at Wembly which I'm sure City will want to win just as much as we do. That is enough for me to get excited about and I don't understand any LFC fan who doesn't feel the same.

Kerrigooney · 23-02-2016 11:05PM

If you're not excited about being in a final then I don't know what's the point...

23-02-2016 11:24PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Sure even Man City put out a bunch of kids in the FA cup against Chelsea at the weekend. So what? That's what squads are for. Our squad vs everyone else's squad and we're in a final at Wembly which I'm sure City will want to win just as much as we do. That is enough for me to get excited about and I don't understand any LFC fan who doesn't feel the same.

My points being - the fact that professional premier league teams in mid table,or at the bottom, put out their second 11 tells us where that competition stands. It's not about squads. It's about achievements.

And you're also saying you don't have the ability to understand somebody who feels differently to you so I don't know how to help you there.

23-02-2016 11:26PM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

If you're not excited about being in a final then I don't know what's the point...

I'll hopefully enjoy the final but it'll be in context to what winning that final actually means.

Edit - or what losing that final actually means.

MD1990 · 23-02-2016 11:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree with you BlackBull that we are all allowed our own opinions and desires.

I was simply agreeing with Magico re the League cup.

Some supporters get very opinionated and question the support of some fans,based on their own desires, and I think that's unfair. It has to go both ways.

I don't care a jot about the League cup but any supporter that gets a thrill from winning it is more than entitled to do so.

Too many opinions are expressed as matter of fact.

I find this opinion very very strange considering we have won 1 trophy in the last 10 years.

23-02-2016 11:50PM

MD1990 wrote: »

I find this opinion very very strange considering we have won 1 trophy in the last 10 years.

What is strange about it ?

It's not an important cup and it's not really where I want to see LFC competing for 'success'.

bur · 24-02-2016 12:06AM

All about context, right now The League Cup is a huge competition for all involved with the club. For Klopp to win something so soon and for this group of players to get into the habit of winning big games and trophies.

mosstin · 24-02-2016 12:56AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What is strange about it ?

It's not an important cup and it's not really where I want to see LFC competing for 'success'.

Point made, no? You don't rate the Capital One Cup. You've spent the past 4 hours replying to anyone who does.
The vast majority of fans want their clubs to win a trophy, as do most on here. You don't. You have my sympathy. Enjoy your Sunday, whatever it is you find yourself doing.

Jesus Wept · 24-02-2016 12:59AM

had 2 donuts for breakfast and a chocolate muffin for tea

24-02-2016 01:02AM

mosstin wrote: »

Point made, no? You don't rate the Capital One Cup. You've spent the past 4 hours replying to anyone who does.
The vast majority of fans want their clubs to win a trophy, as do most on here. You don't. You have my sympathy. Enjoy your Sunday, whatever it is you find yourself doing.

Point not made obviously as I didn't say I don't want us to win on Sunday. Dramatic comments like yours (above) are tabloid to me. Is that where you are at in terms of discussions ?

You're sympathy would be better served where it might be needed.

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