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Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2016 12:01PM

I found this this morning, goes into the change in nitrogen fertilisers produced.

Shifts in nitrogen fertiliser

http://ageconomists.com/2016/02/15/nitrogen-fertilizers-shift-happens/

whelan2 · 21-02-2016 12:10PM

Richard Curran has an interesting overview of the dairy industry in the Sunday independent. Maybe someone could link it please

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2016 12:19PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Richard Curran has an interesting overview of the dairy industry in the Sunday independent. Maybe someone could link it please

This one?

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/kbc-bank-should-we-stay-or-should-we-go-34471483.html

It's the second article, I think.

howdee · 21-02-2016 12:25PM

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

trixi2011 · 21-02-2016 12:38PM

howdee wrote: »

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

have used it before a few times has worked on some cows but failed on others, its your only chance of saving the teat so well worth a try

Timmaay · 21-02-2016 12:48PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

This one?

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/kbc-bank-should-we-stay-or-should-we-go-34471483.html

It's the second article, I think.

24-26 cent breakeven before labour, what about capital, interest etc?

whelan2 · 21-02-2016 01:28PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Do you pass much faith in yr.no?

We'll play it by ear see how it goes.
Cows gone out tonight any way.
Out from 8 am to 4 today and did minimal marking.
Had no bloody water though
We have a 2 inch main line here and reduces to 1 inch and then 3/4 inch. Join blew off on 2 inch line right over a headland drain.
75 cows had the 200g through well emptied.

What are conditions like now?

Greengrass1 · 21-02-2016 01:55PM

whelan2 wrote: »

What are conditions like now?

Didn't get as much rain as wheaten predicted.
Nothing ideal, cows doing a bit of marking and wasting some grass but it'll all be gone come second round.
Managing fine atm.

Just don't let dad down the field ðŸ˜‚

atlantic mist · 21-02-2016 02:51PM

howdee wrote: »

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

never tried the glue before, we always use sudercream on teat cuts found it to be the fastest healing due to the zinc in it.

can you put a teat canal in and just open the nozzle to let milk out at each milking till teat fully repaired for cluster

Milked out · 21-02-2016 03:03PM

howdee wrote: »

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

Depending on the cut now I just let the quarter soak up. One occasion the teat healed and following lactation the quarter was fine another occasion a cow was soaking up in the quarter and brother was milking for me a few weeks later and I never told him about her and he put the clusters on her and the quarter started swelling and the quarter will be left dry permanently now. If cut is too deep I find perservering with it can only make it worse

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2016 03:06PM

howdee wrote: »

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

Superglue was developed to help wounded soldiers in Vietnam do some patching of wounds in the field and help keep them alive long enough to take them to hospital, iirc.

The biggest problem is getting enough dry skin to glue to each end to close the wound.

I have used it a few times and one cow has both her front teats superglued and she is working away as normal, even if the scar is a bit raised.

td5man · 21-02-2016 03:35PM

howdee wrote: »

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

Had to get 2 stitched last year both were a success, found a cow that was putting her front feet into the cubicle that there was a cow lying in .

whelan2 · 21-02-2016 04:48PM

you can buy those paper stitches in the chemist, might work on some of them

Kovu · 21-02-2016 05:01PM

I had my forehead and back of my head glued before and I'm just grand.

:D:D

stretch film · 21-02-2016 05:12PM

whelan2 wrote: »

We are on 1 day, 2 day or 3 day collections here. Pain in the butt as we have to leave yard set every night as we dont know when milkman will come.

Same driver every collection. ?

I think your entitled to a text message with such irregular times.

You could leave the place locked up some time you reckon he's due. Some night your watching a cow

Would open the channel s of communication.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2016 06:03PM

Kovu wrote: »

I had my forehead and back of my head glued before and I'm just grand. :D:D

Well that explains a lot... :pac:

keep going · 21-02-2016 07:07PM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

How can u have time for that sort of work in mid feb, I'm flat to the mat with cows and calves at the moment and can't see it changing anytime soon either. My "other jobs" list is getting longer and longer, but cows and calves take priority

No cow calved yesterday and theres loads to do if there was weather but youcant spread bag, spread slurry , run water pipes and move fences in the new block and when you are not grazing theres not that extra job to do.as posted earlier heifers are on a slow burner this year due to redwater during breeding last year and while wemight have nearly half the mature cows calved theres been no big burst.the man thats likes the sheargrab has more time the man that likes the bales, hard to figure it out

0lddog · 21-02-2016 09:13PM

At the end of

http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/clife/clife-20160219-2132-foreign_correspondent_-_finland-048.mp3

She says the Finnish guy is getting 35c/l + 9c/l subsidy.

Even if this is correct I dont think I'd want to be in his shoes

frazzledhome · 21-02-2016 09:21PM

0lddog wrote: »

At the end of

http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/clife/clife-20160219-2132-foreign_correspondent_-_finland-048.mp3

She says the Finnish guy is getting 35c/l + 9c/l subsidy.

Even if this is correct I dont think I'd want to be in his shoes

Sounds like hell

Those NZ'rs are some whingers. Not a word about subsidies in EU while they could do as they pleased during quotas.

Now it's the big bad EU's fault. Drown them in milk, I say

Dawggone · 21-02-2016 09:23PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Sounds like hell

Those NZ'rs are some whingers. Not a word about subsidies in EU while they could do as they pleased during quotas.

Now it's the big bad EU's fault. Drown them in milk, I say

+1000.
Time to flex some muscle...

0lddog · 21-02-2016 09:34PM

They cant bring themselves to admit that their real problem is the mad strong Kiwi$

frazzledhome · 21-02-2016 09:37PM

0lddog wrote: »

They cant bring themselves to admit that their real problem is the mad strong Kiwi$

And the fact that they're borrowed to the hilt

howdee · 21-02-2016 10:02PM

howdee wrote: »

Cow with a badly cut teat this morning, big udder on her and reckon another cow stood on it.
I tied her up and milked her and super glued the teat back together? Never came across one badly cut before.
Any thoughts on using superglue?

Update, milked her tonight, tied her up and put cluser on her, teat is fairly well swollen but the cut is the worst bit. Milk liner got stuck on her but I eventually got it off her. Tore the wound a small bit but it seems to have set fairly nicely. Glued it again and covered it in sudocrem. Seems to be one thing after another atm.

trixi2011 · 21-02-2016 10:06PM

0lddog wrote: »

They cant bring themselves to admit that their real problem is the mad strong Kiwi$

Kiwi$ is sh!te at the moment ðŸ˜£

0lddog · 21-02-2016 10:48PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

Kiwi$ is sh!te at the moment ðŸ˜£

Not as sh!te as it should be. :P

Timmaay · 22-02-2016 12:44AM

Need to get a calving camera asap here, came across this website: http://www.farmwifi.com, decent enough looking wifi camera kit for 150euros, also the satellite broadband looks interesting also ("broadband" here only give 0.25mb/s download at the sec...). However I'm struggling to find any reviews at all about this website, has anyone ordered from it before, or know anything about it?

WheatenBriar · 22-02-2016 12:52AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Need to get a calving camera asap here, came across this website: http://www.farmwifi.com, decent enough looking wifi camera kit for 150euros, also the satellite broadband looks interesting also ("broadband" here only give 0.25mb/s download at the sec...). However I'm struggling to find any reviews at all about this website, has anyone ordered from it before, or know anything about it?

It might be much cheaper to investigate a camera working of a Vodafone 4g pay as you go phones wifi hot spot
There arent too many areas in Wicklow or Ireland for that matter that doesnt have voda 4G
Theres a thread here somewhere
Satellite broadband is crap slow and expensive compared to 4G

Deepsouthwest · 22-02-2016 01:02AM

keep going wrote: »

No cow calved yesterday and theres loads to do if there was weather but youcant spread bag, spread slurry , run water pipes and move fences in the new block and when you are not grazing theres not that extra job to do.as posted earlier heifers are on a slow burner this year due to redwater during breeding last year and while wemight have nearly half the mature cows calved theres been no big burst.the man thats likes the sheargrab has more time the man that likes the bales, hard to figure it out

The man that likes the bales is using the shear grab again at the moment cos he has two pits from last yr that he needs to feed, and he's missing feeding the bales!
On a slightly related note, feeding all cows after calving a 50/50 mix of first cut precision cut silage(with Brewers grain through it) and maize at the moment, and they're pumping out milk on it. There's dry cows on the other side of the same shed getting ok-ish bale silage, but if I throw any few pikes of the bale silage to the milkers they'll nearly fight over it, even though their own mix is heaped up in front of them.
I've said it before, and now I'm even more convinced, cows are mad for the longer chop grass, and all the silage analysis in the world will tell u there's no difference, but believe me if cows could talk they'd say they prefer longer grass too!

Timmaay · 22-02-2016 01:19AM

WheatenBriar wrote: »

It might be much cheaper to investigate a camera working of a Vodafone 4g pay as you go phones wifi hot spot
There arent too many areas in Wicklow or Ireland for that matter that doesnt have voda 4G
Theres a thread here somewhere
Satellite broadband is crap slow and expensive compared to 4G

Crap phone signal around the house and yard though ughh. However ya got me thinking now, and after checking google what I need to try do is get a good outdoor wifi bridge, and try do something like put one end of it connected to a 3g router on some part of the farm with good 4g, and beam it back to the yard. Finding somewhere with power on the farm will be my problem I think!

Timmaay · 22-02-2016 01:22AM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

I've said it before, and now I'm even more convinced, cows are mad for the longer chop grass, and all the silage analysis in the world will tell u there's no difference, but believe me if cows could talk they'd say the same!

Noticed the same here, the cows will eat the leafy unchopped bale silage before they will go at the maize even! My only mistake last year was not making enough leafy bales. Arguing with my dad at the second, I'll need closer to 150 of the leafy bales, that's 50acres at 3bales/acre, and he calls that "toppings" and tells me I'm only annoying the contractor haha.

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