Today I did some detailing...

Curran · 17-02-2016 07:25PM

Even an hour, half a bottle of tar remover, that's still quite a bit of time!!
Were you spraying on, letting dwell and rinsing off? Or were you using a cloth?

YbFocus · 17-02-2016 07:33PM

Sure everyone knows you don't use a cloth these days

vintagevrs · 17-02-2016 07:35PM

Currans got some competition

Curran · 17-02-2016 07:38PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Sure everyone knows you don't use a cloth these days

Everyone on here should anyways!

Just curious - as even if you were to take Tardis for example;
- spray on, 2 mins
- let dwell, 2-3 mins
- rinse off, 2 mins
- let drip dry, 3 mins

10 mins, and if it was caked in tar, with Tardis, you'd have to repeat the process, two, maybe 3 times - 30 mins at worst!

GustavoFring · 17-02-2016 10:23PM

Curran wrote: »

Everyone on here should anyways!

Just curious - as even if you were to take Tardis for example;
- spray on, 2 mins
- let dwell, 2-3 mins
- rinse off, 2 mins
- let drip dry, 3 mins

10 mins, and if it was caked in tar, with Tardis, you'd have to repeat the process, two, maybe 3 times - 30 mins at worst!

It was caked in it, done with a microfibre and done gently. I had to go around a few times to make sure every last bit was done, then I concentrated on the wheels and got it all off those. They took a good bit of time. I went back then to get the little bits stuck in between shut lines. So I was really thorough. It's white and little bits are a lot more obvious.

I'll probably get slated for using a microfibre or being too slow, the car was in a very bad state and required it. I don't clean my car very often so it needed it.

Apologies if my timing doesn't meet the requirements of the detailing Gods, you should add it to the charter or something the time limits per task so relative novices know not to post or something?

Curran · 17-02-2016 10:32PM

I think you might have taken me up the wrong way.

If you are doing a job, and taking care doing it, I cant fault you - no matter how long it takes.
I was just curious, apologies if you felt I was be-belittling your routine or methods

GustavoFring · 17-02-2016 10:36PM

Just I'd always avoided tar removal myself to save damage (past experience with poor products caused damage), so I was overly careful with this one. Three large microfibres to do the car, as to not build up residue on the cloth surface.

Curran · 17-02-2016 10:48PM

Better safe than sorry!

Getting the job done safely is priority over the time it takes! Plus you've included the shut lines which are often overlooked!

Richard88 · 17-02-2016 11:18PM

Iv always used holts tar remover and found it very good although iv always had to use a microfibre too!

Now I can't seem to find the holts tar remover in any shop.

Would ye recommend tardis or tar x so? Are they that good that you can spray on and wash off?

Edit: sorry just saw there's an ongoing convo in another thread about tar remover!

Curran · 17-02-2016 11:29PM

Holts Tar Remover is very aggressive, especially on plastic trims.

Yes, both are spray on, allow dwell, and then power wash off. If the car hasnt been done in a while, or has heavy deposits, a repeat application may be required. I find that Tardis usually requires two for an average amount of tar, but then you get more for the money!

GustavoFring · 18-02-2016 12:02AM

Richard88 wrote: »

Iv always used holts tar remover and found it very good although iv always had to use a microfibre too!

Now I can't seem to find the holts tar remover in any shop.

Would ye recommend tardis or tar x so? Are they that good that you can spray on and wash off?

Edit: sorry just saw there's an ongoing convo in another thread about tar remover!

Used Oblitarate today and have to say it made it very easy.

Mc Love · 18-02-2016 02:44PM

Finally got around to washing the car, last known wash was December with MX Valeting

Before:

Started off with some Bilt Hamber Auto Wheel:

Then I rinsed the wheels off and used some ValetPro PH Neutral Snow foam (whilst it started to begin to rain/hail:

Feckin rain clouds

So washed the snow foam off, and decided to try out the ODK Jet Shampoo using a 2BM wash method:

ODK Jet Shampoo, smells delicious and suds up nicely too, and delivers good cleaning power. I really liked this product.

And the finished article:

Got this beauty for christmas, didnt upload anything yet although there has been a few beauties caught on it.

I got black nitrile gloves from D&D and they are much better than the blue ones I've been using!

MetzgerMeister · 18-02-2016 03:39PM

What the fvck kind of back garden do you have?! :eek: It's awesome!

vectra · 18-02-2016 03:46PM

Nice seats in the mondeo

Mc Love · 18-02-2016 04:09PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

What the fvck kind of back garden do you have?! :eek: It's awesome!

Pain in the hole more like, upkeep is a chore and a half

vectra wrote: »

Nice seats in the mondeo

Easy to keep clean

Mc Love · 18-02-2016 05:50PM

God I hate this climate!!

Rear is worse!

ianobrien · 18-02-2016 07:04PM

I've the same dashcam. I bought two and put one in the father's car. As we swap them between vehicles, we didn't hardwire them in, only tuck the cable over the visor, down the pillar, tucked around the dash/door shut and under the mat to the cigarette lighter.

We find them excellent. Like you, got some scary moments (including I reckon an attempted staged accident as somebody in front of me with no brake lights stood on the brakes on a straight stretch of road) but none uploaded.

Mc Love · 18-02-2016 07:34PM

ianobrien wrote: »

I've the same dashcam. I bought two and put one in the father's car. As we swap them between vehicles, we didn't hardwire them in, only tuck the cable over the visor, down the pillar, tucked around the dash/door shut and under the mat to the cigarette lighter.

We find them excellent. Like you, got some scary moments (including I reckon an attempted staged accident as somebody in front of me with no brake lights stood on the brakes on a straight stretch of road) but none uploaded.

Have mine wired the same, but tucked behind the roof lining etc so it looks installed. Have to plug it in everytime though

MetzgerMeister · 20-02-2016 05:17PM

So I got TarX from Detailing Shed and used it today for the first time. I absolutely love it. Very easy to use and excellent at its job and smells incredible for a tar remover. Since it's citrus based it smells like oranges and doesn't smell one bit like tar remover.

I would highly recommend it.

vectra · 20-02-2016 05:22PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

So I got TarX from Detailing Shed and used it today for the first time. I absolutely love it. Very easy to use and excellent at its job and smells incredible for a tar remover. Since it's citrus based it smells like oranges and doesn't smell one bit like tar remover.

I would highly recommend it.

Must put that on my
"To get" List

MetzgerMeister · 20-02-2016 05:54PM

It also removes bonded contaminants which negates the need for claying. I can vouch that it does exactly this as I had quite a bit of claying ahead of me today until I finished with the TarX. Saved me a lot of time.

As with any tar remover, you do need to wash the area afterwards but with TarX, your shampoo smells like oranges!

mhackett102 · 20-02-2016 07:19PM

Gave a go at claying the car today. This is what came off the passengers door

happy with the way the car came out, I must do it again on a dry day so I'd probably take more time in cleaning the car.

MetzgerMeister · 20-02-2016 07:23PM

You should always use a tar remover to rid as much tar as possible before claying a car

mhackett102 · 20-02-2016 08:15PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You should always use a tar remover to rid as much tar as possible before claying a car

I'll learn from my mistakes :pac:

I didnt even plan on doing this today but it is after making a difference to the car. I dont even want to drive it this evening with the state of the roads around here!

punisher5112 · 20-02-2016 09:12PM

mhackett102 wrote: »

I'll learn from my mistakes :pac:

I didnt even plan on doing this today but it is after making a difference to the car. I dont even want to drive it this evening with the state of the roads around here!

Did you wash the car 1st?
Preferred method would be clean with APC,,,, all purpose cleaner.

Then de tar as mentioned above.

Then when you have clayed then repeat wash again.

Foxhole Norman · 20-02-2016 11:56PM

My brother finally let me take a clay bar and a machine polisher to his car

He had gotten the car resprayed but has never been happy with the finish to it, I gave it a 2BM Wash, De-Tar, De-Iron and Claybar. I then compounded it with Chemical Guys V32 on an Orange Hex Logic Pad, Medium Polish with Menzerna 2200 on a White Hex Pad, finishing Polish with Menzerna 3800 on a Black Hex Pad and finally sealed it up with Fusso.

An example of the paintwork pre-polishing:

The end result:

He's delighted with it, massive change from what it was! Should have another 2 similar jobs coming up soon!

ianobrien · 23-02-2016 12:00AM

Massive job FN, but can I about the monkey bars in the back? Is it structural or does it tie into the upper seat belt mount? The cage doesnt appear to go all the way to the roof so is not of any use, safety wise. Is there a front section and hows he getting insurance/NCT with it. The reason I ask is that I know of a few Endurance cars that have proper cages having trouble in the insurance/NCT dept.

Foxhole Norman · 23-02-2016 12:11AM

ianobrien wrote: »

Massive job FN, but can I about the monkey bars in the back? Is it structural or does it tie into the upper seat belt mount? The cage doesnt appear to go all the way to the roof so is not of any use, safety wise. Is there a front section and hows he getting insurance/NCT with it. The reason I ask is that I know of a few Endurance cars that have proper cages having trouble in the insurance/NCT dept.

As far as I know it's all done properly, haven't really looked at it myself to be honest! He has it all done by the books anyway, never seems to have problems at the NCT! Has his engine swap declared on the book and with insurance too

ianobrien · 23-02-2016 12:30AM

Fair dues to him to have it all above board. That makes it different from all the knuckledraggers I see f@*king up rallying with their antics. I guess it's a B18 swap also.

Looking at it again, it appears to tie into the rear upper seat belt mounts. Bracing there is a waste of time as they flex mainly between the rear lower wishbone mounts and the rear shock mounts. I've enough friends who race and rally them and there's no point in bracing there. The body can flex away up there without affecting the handling.

You can tell him if he want something different for the car, Sadev are doing a reverse rotation sequential gearbox for the B16/B18. Yours at a snip for €13500 (or so I was told!)

Foxhole Norman · 23-02-2016 12:34AM

ianobrien wrote: »

Fair dues to him to have it all above board. That makes it different from all the knuckledraggers I see f@*king up rallying with their antics. I guess it's a B18 swap also.

Looking at it again, it appears to tie into the rear upper seat belt mounts. Bracing there is a waste of time as they flex mainly between the rear lower wishbone mounts and the rear shock mounts. I've enough friends who race and rally them and there's no point in bracing there. The body can flex away up there without affecting the handling.

You can tell him if he want something different for the car, Sadev are doing a reverse rotation sequential gearbox for the B16/B18. Yours at a snip for €13500 (or so I was told!)

Tis only a lowly B16 from an SIR

It can shift though and I could not stop smiling and gigging like a little girl when I was driving it, such ridiculously fun cars. He has it setup just right! Will mention it to him about the brace though!

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