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Would you eat another human to survive?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Eat whoever dies first. Problem solved. Nobody has to kill anyone, nobody has to be killed and their family members save a fortune on a coffin/cremation!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    karma_ wrote: »
    Someone say long pig?
    Apparently its just Pork ! Roast Pork ! Cabbage and Bacon ! Pork Chops, Rashers !

    I was brought up to waste not want not ! You'd kind of have to let on that you were not to keen...Just to Keep up appearances;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Eat whoever dies first. Problem solved. Nobody has to kill anyone, nobody has to be killed and their family members save a fortune on a coffin/cremation!

    Maybe, though you'd really want them to die from injuries rather than some disease.

    "Woof, woof, woof, ah the TB's kicking off lads,I won't be here long but have a couple slices of that arse on the BBQ and think of me wouldya."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Can you folks not just eat berries or other things like wildlife instead of eating a dead human ? what's the matter with you all. Just make a bow and arrow and hunt for food just like we did yonks ago. Maybe it's just complete laziness but you need to get running chasing little furry rabbits or armadillos.

    I'd say most on that poll that would eat humans are talking rubbish. Arse chops and the rest.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Undecided
    Maybe, though you'd really want them to die from injuries rather than some disease.

    "Woof, woof, woof, ah the TB's kicking off lads,I won't be here long but have a couple slices of that arse on the BBQ and think of me wouldya."
    You wouldn't want to be cooking it rare that's true. Well done and you'd be grand.
    Can you folks not just eat berries or other things like wildlife instead of eating a dead human ? what's the matter with you all. Just make a bow and arrow and hunt for food just like we did yonks ago. Maybe it's just complete laziness but you need to get running chasing little furry rabbits or armadillos.
    Depends where you are. The guys after the plane crash were stuck up a mountain above the tree line in snow. Pretty much nada to eat up there. Different scenario if you were on a coastal environment, every time the tide goes out it's grub up time. No need to start chowing down on grainne or sean. Berries and the like are seasonal and you'd want to know exactly which berries and other plants to eat. Most wild plants are not exactly calorie or nutrient dense and quite the few can kill you stone dead. In general meats give you the best bang for buck in the wild.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Of course I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭anothernight


    Undecided
    If the passengers are already dead from the crash, and there's nothing else to eat (like in the Andes situation), I'd definitely eat the dead passengers. Once you're dead you don't need your body. Better use it to keep people alive if there's no other option imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    If the passengers are already dead from the crash, and there's nothing else to eat (like in the Andes situation), I'd definitely eat the dead passengers. Once you're dead you don't need your body. Better use it to keep people alive if there's no other option imo.


    Sure, they don't need their bodies obviously, but I could never envision myself in a scenario where I'd need their bodies either. I'd sooner be among the people that died first than struggle with the moral quandary between cannibalism and starvation tbh. Whoever is left after me could have what they liked, I'm very fat so there'd be plenty of crackling to go round at least :pac:


    (actually now I think of it, I'd be likely to survive much longer in the Andes than a slim Jim, given my fat reserves... :o)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Yes., I think I probably would if the situation really got that desperate. I think most probably would if they were really that hungry.

    A more interesting question would be if anyone would be prepared to kill someone in order to survive. Ie unlike the alive scenario where people already had died. I'm sure I've read about a few situations in the past where the weakest of a group were "helped" on their way in order to provide some prime rump....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Would there be Apple Sauce ?


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  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd eat another one for the crack. Unless someone else got the crack first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    blinding wrote: »
    Would there be Apple Sauce ?

    Humans taste more like chicken. Apple sauce would be a totally inappropriate accompaniment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Humans taste more like chicken. Apple sauce would be a totally inappropriate accompaniment.

    Smells like pork though when they're cooking :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    Smells like pork though when they're cooking :(

    You trying to eat one of your pudgy fingers again?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Undecided
    Whoever is left after me could have what they liked, I'm very fat so there'd be plenty of crackling to go round at least :pac:


    (actually now I think of it, I'd be likely to survive much longer in the Andes than a slim Jim, given my fat reserves... :o)
    *takes short pencil from pocket, licks the lead, takes down note* One eyed Jack, bump him off early on. Will make fine marbled steaks. NB come at him in surprise, with a large club and from behind as he's a big fcuker. :D

    You probably would survive longer alright J, certainly in the cold of the Andes. I'd expire in hours. Hell, I'm looking iffy on a damp day on O'Connell Street. One theory holds that humans put on weight so easily because it was an evolutionary adaptation to times of famine and it may even be why we alone survived. Other earlier humans may have added muscle with extra food, not so good as muscle is very calorie hungry(hence bodybuilders have to eat like horses).

    Cannibalism has been part of the human condition for a very long time. Neandertals certainly seem to have practiced it, as did we*. Now the evidence may be down to some ritual funeral practice in both, but food was probably high enough on the list. There's a fair bit of eating on an adult person all the way down to the marrow(in those ancient remains the long bones were purposely crushed to get to the marrow, a very rich food source). In more "modern" types in various cultures it's much more a ritualistic thing. Where someone may eat the heart of an enemy, but the rest of the body is discarded. In other cultures much loved members of the society are consumed as a veneration, which in one group of tribal types has led to a type of mad cow disease called IIRC kuru or kuro from eating brain and spinal matter. In either types they don't crush the bones to get at the marrow. Nothing was going to waste. They were even defleshing the face. It seems, regardless of any ritual connotations our early ancestors were needing the food(the Neandertal examples were living in one of the worst cold snaps in Europe at the time and they were the only humans who hadn't gotten the fcuk outa Dodge).

    It's one thing to eat an already dead person, I'd draw the line at killing somebody for food. That's a big bloody line right there.





    *of course when we find evidence they did it, it was just for food. The brutes. When we did it, well then it was "probably ritual". Yeah right…

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    You trying to eat one of your pudgy fingers again?

    I don't see you offering, missy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Wibbs wrote: »
    You wouldn't want to be cooking it rare that's true. Well done and you'd be grand.


    Depends where you are. The guys after the plane crash were stuck up a mountain above the tree line in snow. Pretty much nada to eat up there. Different scenario if you were on a coastal environment, every time the tide goes out it's grub up time. No need to start chowing down on grainne or sean. Berries and the like are seasonal and you'd want to know exactly which berries and other plants to eat. Most wild plants are not exactly calorie or nutrient dense and quite the few can kill you stone dead. In general meats give you the best bang for buck in the wild.

    Well I can tell you If my legs were not damaged I'd take the heavy clothing from a dead person or their luggage and cover myself with it firstly and then move down from the mountain to lower ground where there will be grass and of course berries that can kill you if eaten, but I'll try my chances that way. If my legs were damaged I'd then crawl to lower ground after covering my body in clothes of any kind.

    I'll slide down a mountain of hill or mountain slopes to get away from you bunch of cannibals that's for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    I don't see you offering, missy!

    You want to eat me?

    Get in line!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    'If' the passengers are already dead from the crash, and there's nothing else to eat (like in the Andes situation), I'd definitely eat the dead passengers. Once you're dead you don't need your body. Better use it to keep people alive if there's no other option imo.

    How the hell are you going to know that they are dead/dead ? ahh here we have a little guy that is 'dead' ? the poor fcuker could be frozen but not yet dead, and there you go carving a few slices of meat from him/her. Where is your doctorate in medicine and knowing exactly when a person is dead. I don't trust any of you spacers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Humans taste more like chicken. Apple sauce would be a totally inappropriate accompaniment.
    I like Apple Sauce and ..err what would you suggest to go with this chicken flavoured dish ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Well I can tell you If my legs were not damaged I'd take the heavy clothing from a dead person or their luggage and cover myself with it firstly and then move down from the mountain to lower ground where there will be grass and of course berries that can kill you if eaten, but I'll try my chances that way. If my legs were damaged I'd then crawl to lower ground after covering my body in clothes of any kind.

    I'll slide down a mountain of hill or mountain slopes to get away from you bunch of cannibals that's for sure.

    Maybe you could slide down a wee hill in Wicklow but not perhaps in the Andes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    You want to eat me?

    Get in line!

    There's no eating in you. Your name is a lie :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Maybe you could slide down a wee hill in Wicklow but not perhaps in the Andes.

    I'll walk or crawl first though. I have too much respect for my own species to allow myself to eat one.

    I did hear it tastes like chicken though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭esforum


    Undecided
    Well I can tell you If my legs were not damaged I'd take the heavy clothing from a dead person or their luggage and cover myself with it firstly and then move down from the mountain to lower ground where there will be grass and of course berries that can kill you if eaten, but I'll try my chances that way. If my legs were damaged I'd then crawl to lower ground after covering my body in clothes of any kind.

    I'll slide down a mountain of hill or mountain slopes to get away from you bunch of cannibals that's for sure.

    the sad part about that incident was they were only a few miles from an adandoned ski resort, if I remember the book correctly it was to their west and they ultimately went north


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    blinding wrote: »
    I like Apple Sauce and ..err what would you suggest to go with this chicken flavoured dish ?

    A gravy chip and some sweet chilli sauce perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭anothernight


    Undecided
    I'd sooner be among the people that died first than struggle with the moral quandary between cannibalism and starvation tbh.

    See, I wouldn't struggle with that at all because I see nothing wrong with eating a dead human for survival. I've no moral issue with it at all. I would never kill a human though, for survival or otherwise. Just no.

    How the hell are you going to know that they are dead/dead ? ahh here we have a little guy that is 'dead' ? the poor fcuker could be frozen but not yet dead, and there you go carving a few slices of meat from him/her. Where is your doctorate in medicine and knowing exactly when a person is dead. I don't trust any of you spacers.

    The survivors weren't frozen. Air travel isn't done in a frozen state. It's not particularly difficult to check if a human is dead after a plane crash, and humans don't survive freezing anyway! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    blinding wrote: »
    I like Apple Sauce and ..err what would you suggest to go with this chicken flavoured dish ?

    Stuffing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    esforum wrote: »
    the sad part about that incident was they were only a few miles from an adandoned ski resort, if I remember the book correctly it was to their west and they ultimately went north

    If they had any brains at all they would have done the obvious... Make a compass as that would at least give them some idea of the best location to go to. If I could tell them now they would say... If only I had thought of that I would or could be alive now. Too busy eating human body parts.

    You can magnetize your needle using a variety of methods: tapping it with a piece of steel or iron, rubbing it with a magnet, or rubbing it on another item that magnetizes it with static electricity like your damn hair.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Compass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    How the hell are you going to know that they are dead/dead ? ahh here we have a little guy that is 'dead' ? the poor fcuker could be frozen but not yet dead, and there you go carving a few slices of meat from him/her. Where is your doctorate in medicine and knowing exactly when a person is dead.
    Their heart won't be beating.
    Slide down the Andes? :D

    You simply do not know what you would do for food if in a situation where there was literally none (and no way of getting any) except for the flesh of a dead person. I don't agree with you getting pissed off at people and calling them a bunch of cannibals - it's not like they would do it ordinarily or actually want to do it, they are just being realistic about a last resort possibility in a very very extreme situation, if there is no other option besides starving to death (an horrendous way to die).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    If they had any brains at all they would have done the obvious... Make a compass as that would at least give them some idea of the best location to go to. If I could tell them now they would say... If only I had thought of that I would or could be alive now. Too busy eating human body parts.

    You can magnetize your needle using a variety of methods: tapping it with a piece of steel or iron, rubbing it with a magnet, or rubbing it on another item that magnetizes it with static electricity like your damn hair.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Compass

    Yep, if only Bear Grylls had have been around in the 1970s in South America then they all would have known exactly what to do. :-)


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