Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

edgecutter · 18-02-2016 08:05PM

mada999 wrote: »

Do the players get any of the blame or just the manager?

Both deserve stick, but LVG seems to have destroyed most of our players confidence.

Manutd_4life · 18-02-2016 08:05PM

edgecutter wrote: »

You can't act like that. I want the team to win and starting to want us to lose to get the manager sacked is small time.

Sorry bro but I can't support this gobsh*te. The players aren't playing for LVG and they didn't even look at all bothered by what was happening.

The old man needs to go!!!!

kona · 18-02-2016 08:06PM

Does anybody in utd have the balls to make the decision? Far more need to be kicked to touch than can gaal. Giggs needs to go as does all the coaches , the medical staff can **** off too.

edgecutter · 18-02-2016 08:06PM

Hurler85 wrote: »

I have resisted and resisted this since December but #VanGaalOut

It's better on this side. Let your rage out.

greedygoblin · 18-02-2016 08:06PM

bangkok wrote: »

comical defending.

van gaal just sitting there for 90mins wrecks my head and id say a lot of the players are pissed off with him as well.

no inspiration, nothing.

he wont last much longer

It's not just the defending though. It's all over the pitch. Sisto got on the ball there at one stage and strolled past 3 or 4 Utd players without even a single tackle going in. There's no belief, no plan, no anything.

v3ttel · 18-02-2016 08:06PM

loudnoises89 wrote: »

Enough is enough.

Maximus Alexander · 18-02-2016 08:07PM

mada999 wrote: »

Do the players get any of the blame or just the manager?

The players are clearly better than what we've been seeing. It's the manager's job to get the best out of them. He can't. So while they may not be blameless, he has to take the brunt of it by far.

Even if this was the level of the players, and it wasn't possible for them to play any better, it's still the manager's fault because he chose those players.

Mars Bar · 18-02-2016 08:07PM

And we lost 1-0.

Rossi IRL · 18-02-2016 08:07PM

mada999 wrote: »

Do the players get any of the blame or just the manager?

If it was 1 or 2 players sure but its near enough the whole team.

edgecutter · 18-02-2016 08:07PM

greedygoblin wrote: »

It's not just the defending though. It's all over the pitch. Sisto got on the ball there at one stage and strolled past 3 or 4 Utd players without even a single tackle going in. There's no belief, no plan, no anything.

A team that scores from set pieces somehow score two from play should tell the story of the mess we find ourselves in.

Jayop · 18-02-2016 08:08PM

I've always always railed against people who claimed the club were an embarrassment, but now it's really getting to that. I'm working tonight so didn't see the game but I'd say I've only missed about 4 games including preseason since VanGaal took over and it's got gradually worse with each passing month. You can really only say we've had about 5 decent performances since he took over. Results are terrible, I just don't know what to say.

I was planning on getting over twice before the end of the season but I'll save my money and bring the missus down the country for a weekend instead.

Maximus Alexander · 18-02-2016 08:09PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

And we lost 1-0.

Bet you gave them a fight though. They're top of the league, no shame in it.

glued · 18-02-2016 08:09PM

mada999 wrote: »

Do the players get any of the blame or just the manager?

Players have to take a large chunk of that blame. Many of these guys have been inconsistent under two managers. It can't always be the managers fault.

RobertKK · 18-02-2016 08:10PM

This is worse than the David Moyes season, at least with Moyes we didn't make a show of ourselves on the European stage, we did manage to frighten Bayern Munich in the CL playoff games.

Jayop · 18-02-2016 08:10PM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Sorry bro but I can't support this gobsh*te. The players aren't playing for LVG and they didn't even look at all bothered by what was happening.

The old man needs to go!!!!

If, and only if we sack him then I don't mind losing tonight. It's only a one goal deficit and we got an away goal so we should still go through with a new manager.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 18-02-2016 08:11PM

Lingard, Memphis, Mata- they all keep pulling out of challenges.

Smalling pretty much on his own at the back.

Romero did well.

J. Marston · 18-02-2016 08:12PM

De Gea's injury...

https://twitter.com/UnitedPeoplesTV/status/700376817341964289

bangkok · 18-02-2016 08:12PM

stankratz wrote: »

While I get your point, and agree with it, about 'heart and pride', I don't think the standing on the touchline shouting thing is that effective in isolation.

But if you were to look at his detachment during games as a sign of what he might be like in the training ground etc. that's another thing.

However, unless he's recently changed, I remember seeing footage of United training with LVG being very present in the sessions and lots of interaction with the players.

I dunno, I just think that there are many other definite facts that can be attributed to his share of the blame, without going near the touchline thing.

You obviously like to see managers out there barking orders, and now that I think about it I'm not averse to it myself, but of all things this evening (and going on at the club at the moment) Louis sitting on his arse isn't even remotely registering on my 'Fúck ya anyway, Louis' scale of emotions.

Tbh, it's LVG communicating less with the players that I want to see these days :pac:

football is not a static game and the opposition are always changing tactics etc and we need to counter that but van gaal just sits there taking notes.

when i played and you knew you were having a bad game, or not 100% focused for whatever reason, it was sometimes refreshing for the manager to have a go at you or whoever, and more often than not there was an immediate response.

van gaal gives nothing

jayo26 · 18-02-2016 08:12PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

And we lost 1-0.

Well you have come to the right place.

Lithium93_ · 18-02-2016 08:13PM

Get Van Gaal out, and José in ASAP, this ****e cannot carry on any longer.

RobertKK · 18-02-2016 08:13PM

United should refund the fans who went to Denmark.

Jayop · 18-02-2016 08:13PM

bangkok wrote: »

football is not a static game and the opposition are always changing tactics etc and we need to counter that but van gaal just sits there taking notes.

when i played and you knew you were having a bad game, or not 100% focused for whatever reason, it was sometimes refreshing for the manager to have a go at you or whoever, and more often than not there was an immediate response.

van gaal gives nothing

1 game plan. If that doesn't work we.......keep the same game plan?

adox · 18-02-2016 08:13PM

Trevor Francis hitting a few nails on heads.

bangkok · 18-02-2016 08:13PM

J. Marston wrote: »

De Gea's injury...

https://twitter.com/UnitedPeoplesTV/status/700376817341964289

****ing great, looks like knee or angle ligament damage!!!!

edgecutter · 18-02-2016 08:14PM

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Get Van Gaal out, and José in ASAP, this ****e cannot carry on any longer.

I would take the Chuckle brothers just to get rid of LVG.

DM_7 · 18-02-2016 08:15PM

FC Midtjylland

HAVEN'T PLAYED IN TWO ****ING MONTHS

I=Then again, I suppose United haven't played in a lot longer than that.

user2011 · 18-02-2016 08:16PM

bangkok wrote: »

****ing great, looks like knee or angle ligament damage!!!!

Groin or hip? That's what it looks to me.

Liam McPoyle · 18-02-2016 08:16PM

bangkok wrote: »

****ing great, looks like knee or angle ligament damage!!!!

I would have thought a stomach muscle strain.

v3ttel · 18-02-2016 08:17PM

LOL at Ed Woodward thinking Olympiakos away in the last 16 of the champions league was the low point. I hope he had his camera phone out tonight, losing to a sh!te team in the last 32 of Europe's second competition.

Enough is enough. Van Gaal has to go.

This sums it up nice:

https://twitter.com/stoney_utd/status/700404399433244672

greedygoblin · 18-02-2016 08:18PM

user2011 wrote: »

Groin or hip? That's what it looks to me.

Ya I thought it was groin too. Hopefully Louis might shed some light on it in the post match interview.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

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