Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

gosplan · 13-02-2016 06:40PM

Soups123 wrote: »

It's a huge gamble, this isn't a game to throw a rookie in.

Rambo is a better option by miles. They are going to let us have plenty of the ball and we've got players well able for that game.

We only need one DM against Leicester

I'm just worried about Rambo disappearing up front and losing the ball.

Elneny is obviously raw but he seems to stay put.

gosplan · 13-02-2016 06:43PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Why so? Last time we played them, we had a Flamini/Cazorla midfield.

Personally, because I don't think he will play Elneny, I wouldn't mind seeing:

Coq-Flamini

Ramsey-Ozil-Sanchez

Walcott

This won't happen though. I would only put Walcott in up top because of how he played againt them last time. More likely we will see very close to the Bournemouth lineup, except Coq in for Flamini.

And we conceded first.

Conceding first tomorrow would be awful.

13-02-2016 07:14PM

gosplan wrote: »

And we conceded first.

Conceding first tomorrow would be awful.

Last time we conceded first, but we won 5-2.

I have no problem if Leicester score first. We have to attack and win. If we play conservatively and try to hold on to a 1-0 lead, it will end in tears.

tayto lover · 13-02-2016 07:16PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Last time we conceded first, but we won 5-2.

I have no problem if Leicester score first. We have to attack and win. If we play conservatively and try to hold on to a 1-0 lead, it will end in tears.

We would be better not conceding at all.

13-02-2016 07:16PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Last time we conceded first, but we won 5-2.

I have no problem if Leicester score first. We have to attack and win. If we play conservatively and try to hold on to a 1-0 lead, it will end in tears.

We should play "conservatively" tomorrow, they thrive on counter-attacking.

13-02-2016 07:20PM

5 teams have scored more goals than us this season, Chelsea have scored just one fewer than us, albeit with an extra game played. Pretty poor stat really.

13-02-2016 07:26PM

tayto lover wrote: »

We would be better not conceding at all.

Really? You think that would help us win?

tayto lover · 13-02-2016 07:28PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Really? You think that would help us win?

it would stop us losing anyway. :pac:

13-02-2016 07:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We should play "conservatively" tomorrow, they thrive on counter-attacking.

I don't know why we should fear them, and I don't know why we should go in with a negative mindset. They showed last week that they can score without counter attacking.

We need to score goals. That doesn't mean throw everyone forward and throw any defensive shape out the window.

13-02-2016 07:33PM

Basil3 wrote: »

I don't know why we should fear them, and I don't know why we should go in with a negative mindset. They showed last week that they can score without counter attacking.

We need to score goals. That doesn't mean throw everyone forward and throw any defensive shape out the window.

They're top of the league. That's why we should "fear" them.

We've been so blunt in attack lately, I'd really rather not get into a "you have a go, we'll have a go" match with them because it's not how to maximise our chances of winning.

13-02-2016 07:45PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They're top of the league. That's why we should "fear" them.

We've been so blunt in attack lately, I'd really rather not get into a "you have a go, we'll have a go" match with them because it's not how to maximise our chances of winning.

Who said it needs to be that type of game? We will have plenty of the ball, we should be trying to score - not trying to not concede.

I wonder if anyone feared us, when we were top of the league?

13-02-2016 07:49PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Who said it needs to be that type of game? We will have plenty of the ball, we should be trying to score - not trying to not concede.

I wonder if anyone feared us, when we were top of the league?

I hate using "fear" and "respect" in this context, it's a crutch for pundits with little actual insight into the game.

We're playing the team who've been the best in the league so far. Call it "fear" or "respect" or whatever, they've been better than us this season. We should play to win and part of that is maximising our chances to win. To do so given our very poor form I think means not tapping the ball around 30 yards from their goal and leaving a huge area for them to attack when we inevitably give the ball away eventually.

gosplan · 13-02-2016 11:54PM

We're playing a team that's top of the league, the fastest in the league and that thrives on space and counter attacking opportunities.

Basically think of how teams played us for years and how defences stop Walcott being effective.

It's nothing to do with fear, it's just basic cop-on. Don't play to their strengths. We have an Ozil and a Sanchez. Keep it tight and let them be the difference.

14-02-2016 05:48AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I hate using "fear" and "respect" in this context, it's a crutch for pundits with little actual insight into the game.

We're playing the team who've been the best in the league so far. Call it "fear" or "respect" or whatever, they've been better than us this season. We should play to win and part of that is maximising our chances to win. To do so given our very poor form I think means not tapping the ball around 30 yards from their goal and leaving a huge area for them to attack when we inevitably give the ball away eventually.

They've been better than us, except when we beat them....

We are at home, we will have most of the ball. I'm not sure what you think we will do if it's not tapping the ball around 30 yards from their goal. That's what arsenal do.

14-02-2016 05:56AM

gosplan wrote: »

We're playing a team that's top of the league, the fastest in the league and that thrives on space and counter attacking opportunities.

Basically think of how teams played us for years and how defences stop Walcott being effective.

It's nothing to do with fear, it's just basic cop-on. Don't play to their strengths. We have an Ozil and a Sanchez. Keep it tight and let them be the difference.

Last time they played us, they employed a pressing, high-line game. That's why Walcott was effective.

Although Sanchez was the difference last time, he also gives the ball away almost more than anyone in the league, which will be playing into their hands.

I think the biggest factor is how Leicester play today. Will they be content to sit back, or is their confidence so high that they'll have a go?

gosplan · 14-02-2016 07:31AM

Basil3 wrote: »

Last time they played us, they employed a pressing, high-line game. That's why Walcott was effective.

Although Sanchez was the difference last time, he also gives the ball away almost more than anyone in the league, which will be playing into their hands.

I think the biggest factor is how Leicester play today. Will they be content to sit back, or is their confidence so high that they'll have a go?

In fairness to Sanchez, he gives the ball away near their box with everyone behind him. That's not a worry.

gosplan · 14-02-2016 07:33AM

Basil3 wrote: »

Last time they played us, they employed a pressing, high-line game. That's why Walcott was effective.

So we should not do this vrs their speedy players I guess?

JustTheOne · 14-02-2016 08:12AM

Extremely confident especially if coq starts.

3-0.

KaiserGunner · 14-02-2016 08:32AM

I'm stating the obvious here, but this is a massive match today. If we want to win the title it's a must win. A draw isn't good enough, especially with recent form and that we have to go to Old Trafford in the next match. A defeat and I think that's title over.

I'm extremely confident about today though, I think we will get the win. I'm expecting a few goals in it, for both teams. Obviously there threat is on the counter and set pieces, which outdone Man City last week. Think Giroud will start up top because of that. I'm going for a 3-1 or 3-2 win which should signal our intent for the rest of the season!

14-02-2016 08:44AM

gosplan wrote: »

So we should not do this vrs their speedy players I guess?

For sure. We don't need to play a high line. I just don't want us to go in with a negative mindset. I believe they got 2 goals from set pieces against city.

I want us to go in with the attitude of wanting to win, not an attitude of trying to stop Vardy and Mahrez. If we can beat them by a couple of clear goals, it will knock the wind out of their sails a bit. A 1-0 win to us will do little to knock their confidence, and little to improve ours.

CatInABox · 14-02-2016 09:57AM

Why is it that whenever someone here says that they're extremely confident, I turn into a bundle of nerves???

Massive game today, in fact, I'd say our entire season could be summed up by the result of this game.

In other news, I've moved flat yesterday, and am now so close to the emirates that there's match day parking restrictions on my road.

14-02-2016 10:09AM

Good read here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/02/12/arsenal-and-leicester-square-off-in-the-biggest-match-of-the-english-premier-league-season/

Pretty safe to say, dream result for us is a win and then a draw in the Spurs v City match. A loss is a disaster.

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emergingstar · 14-02-2016 10:54AM

Fcuking love these days

My only worry is per, we need to protect him

Let's go at them and tear into them

emergingstar · 14-02-2016 10:56AM

Basil3 wrote: »

For sure. We don't need to play a high line. I just don't want us to go in with a negative mindset. I believe they got 2 goals from set pieces against city.

I want us to go in with the attitude of wanting to win, not an attitude of trying to stop Vardy and Mahrez. If we can beat them by a couple of clear goals, it will knock the wind out of their sails a bit. A 1-0 win to us will do little to knock their confidence, and little to improve ours.

Exactly we went at them at there place and we scored five and could have had a hatful more

emergingstar · 14-02-2016 11:01AM

Our bench looks good again

I'm pumped

14-02-2016 11:01AM

Solid line-up, good bench. Happy with that.

Ol' Donie · 14-02-2016 11:02AM

Oooh, it's a big day alright.

Very excited, have a good feeling about this.

C'mon City!!

Bobby Baccala · 14-02-2016 11:18AM

Return of the Coq!!!! Buzzing for this one now, hopefully it doesn't all go tits up in the first 10 mins

FixitFelix · 14-02-2016 11:27AM

Predicting a 3-1 win to the Gunners

Manach · 14-02-2016 11:28AM

Gentlemen, hopefully by day's end we shall celebrate.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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