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eh, Black Holes do not exist...

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    #32
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I have a black hole....


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    #33
    ClovenHoof
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    NIMAN wrote: »
    We just have to take their word that they exist.


    Like the Holy Ghost, Leprechauns and Pixies so...


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    #34
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    True. Most people who read his books are illiterates.


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    #35
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    Or women. Or manners. Or how not to be a complete and utter d*ck.


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    #36
    ClovenHoof
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    50 years ago you same conformists on here would be defending Archbishop McQuid's Mother and Child bull**** simply because he was a 'respected' authority figure and attacking anyone who pointed out that he was full of **** and a spoofer.


    Nothing ever changes. Different generation, same conformists who question nothing.


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    #37
    uch
    Registered Users Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭uch


    My brothers wife is from Tanzania, I can assure you Black Holes do exist

    21/25



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    #38
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    uch wrote: »
    My brothers wife is from Tanzania, I can assure you Black Holes do exist

    Hai Ryan Giggs.


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    #39
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Can we see 1 billion light years away?

    We can see further than that, the Universe in around 15 billion years old, has been expanding ever since and is accelerating, it is now expanding faster than the speed of light. This means we will never see the very first stars born but we can see the ones born soon after.

    When we see a star 15 billion light years away, that is what the star looked like and where is was 15 billion years ago. It could have exploded as of now but we are looking into the past.

    When you look at the sun you are looking at where it was 8 minutes ago. If the sun stopped burning right now we would still get another 8 minutes of light from it.


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    #40
    Cookie_Monster
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    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Like Dark Matter, they are purely theoretical and represent the Leprechauns and Pixies of Cosmology.

    This is why I am extremely sceptical about this Gravity Wave hype today.

    They are using their imaginary space friends as the control subjects.

    yeah and the earth is flat and god is real :rolleyes:


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    #41
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,419 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Always thought the same about dark matter and dark energy.
    They're basically making sh1t up to fit their models.They may well be right but it's still makey uppy.


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    #42
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    kneemos wrote: »
    Always thought the same about dark matter and dark energy.
    They're basically making sh1t up to fit their models.They may well be right but it's still makey uppy.

    Gravitational wave were made up to fit the models but they are now proven to exist.

    Blackholes were theory too at one point but it was decades before one was proven to exit.

    It's not made up as there is strong evidence to prove that these things do exit and the laws of physics allow for them to exist.

    Like the way the laws of physics allow for the possibility of time travel into the future but not the past. We can't do it with todays tech but it is possible.


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    #43
    K.Flyer
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    kneemos wrote: »
    ...They may well be right but it's still makey uppy.

    Like those flip open things they had decades ago on Star Trek to communicate with each other and the way they could see the person on the screen as they spoke with them.
    Totally makey uppy then.. but so common place now. :pac:


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    #44
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,419 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Like those flip open things they had decades ago on Star Trek to communicate with each other and the way they could see the person on the screen as they spoke with them.
    Totally makey uppy then.. but so common place now. :pac:


    Or teleportation. Yeah right.


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    #45
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    kneemos wrote: »
    Or teleportation. Yeah right.

    Didn't scientists actually manage to transport matter a few years ago?


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    #46
    murpho999
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    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    You do realise that is the idea of his books so that people who know little about science then learn some?

    And Hawkings by the way, who still works in Cambridge is very much a scientist.


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    #47
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Everything except there being a God?

    we can have parallel universes, black holes colliding 1 billion light years away, worm holes etc etc yet mention God and people call you crazy.

    Nobody would call you crazy but there is nothing researched, observed or proven about God. It's all made up, unlike work with black holes etc.


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    #48
    eamonnq
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    ClovenHoof wrote: »

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    Is that not exactly who the books are aimed for ? (Not that you should throw books at people!!)


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    #49
    weisses
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    Ever since learning there is a bleached version, I have no issues believing there are black holes


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    #50
    Ave Sodalis
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    ClovenHoof wrote:
    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    Maybe you should spend less time reading his books, and more time reading his journal articles.


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    #51
    MonkeyTennis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    dont take my multicoloured swirly thing away :(


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    #52
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Here's a nice cartoon to explain it to the skeptical.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/EXlzn


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    #53
    valoren
    Registered Users Posts: 5,462 ✭✭✭valoren


    We can only infer the presence of gravity wells aka black holes because we simply can't see them....our eyes are only sensitive to photons from the visible light part of the electromagnetic spectrum..and a black hole has enough mass so that it deforms the fabric of space time sufficiently enough so that the escape velocity for a light photon is greater than C, the limiting speed of light in a vacuum, this photon will never physically reach our eye in order to be able to 'see' a blackhole.

    tl;dr?

    Once you black, you never go back :D


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    #54
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    This thread needs a theme tune

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg


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    #55
    kylith
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    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Like Dark Matter, they are purely theoretical and represent the Leprechauns and Pixies of Cosmology.

    This is why I am extremely sceptical about this Gravity Wave hype today.

    They are using their imaginary space friends as the control subjects.

    Are you perhaps confused about what a scientific theory is? It's not the same as a guess/hypothesis you know.


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    #56
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Blackhorse Slim wrote: »
    But pixies do exist :confused:
    How can anyone question the existence of Pixies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPgf_btTFlc


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    #57
    saintsaltynuts
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    Where would you find a Supreme Black Hole?
    ....Diana Ross.


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    #58
    Mesrine65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Calcutta?


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    #59
    M5
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    "I Don't understand it, therefore God"


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    #60
    cowboyBuilder
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    MarkR wrote: »
    Here's a nice cartoon to explain it to the skeptical.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/EXlzn


    Excellent stuff !!

    Thanks


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    #61
    Bio Mech
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    OP is clearly a witch. Burn em.


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