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eh, Black Holes do not exist...

  • 11-02-2016 9:28pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭


    Like Dark Matter, they are purely theoretical and represent the Leprechauns and Pixies of Cosmology.

    This is why I am extremely sceptical about this Gravity Wave hype today.

    They are using their imaginary space friends as the control subjects.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Blackhorse Slim


    But pixies do exist :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    If you say so.

    Theory finally proven, but what would they knew. Uneducated rabble.


    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Like Dark Matter, they are purely theoretical and represent the Leprechauns and Pixies of Cosmology.

    This is why I am extremely sceptical about this Gravity Wave hype today.

    They are using their imaginary space friends as the control subjects.

    You do not exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    I am Rene Descarte . I'll have a Vodka and Red Bull and I know how boogie on down.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Nodin wrote: »
    You do not exist.

    He might, in another earth or parallel dimension. Anything is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,860 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Who's gonna break the bad news to Stephen Hawking that he's wasted his life studying something that doesn't even exist. Poor fella.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    If you say so.

    Theory finally proven, but what would they knew. Uneducated rabble.


    :rolleyes:

    It has been 'proven' using imaginary criteria?

    I can assure you within a couple of weeks cosmologists will be ripping today's circus apart. If not sooner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Black holes suck


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It's all very well peer reviewed. I'll take it for now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    BBDBB wrote: »
    Black holes suck

    ...the light out of you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,676 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    When I hear stories like this today I find it all hard to fathom out.

    So 2 black holes collided 1 billion light years away (just think about that distance for one minute) and we picked up a reading of it on earth?

    Can we see 1 billion light years away?
    Can they say for certain that 2 black holes collided or are they guessing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    I am Rene Descarte . I'll have a Vodka and Red Bull and I know how boogie on down.

    You drink therefore you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    ectoraige wrote: »
    You drink therefore you are.

    A c*nt when drunk :P

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,676 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He might, in another earth or parallel dimension. Anything is possible.

    Everything except there being a God?

    we can have parallel universes, black holes colliding 1 billion light years away, worm holes etc etc yet mention God and people call you crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Everything except there being a God?

    we can have parallel universes, black holes colliding 1 billion light years away, worm holes etc etc yet mention God and people call you crazy.

    If anything is possible or could exist in a parallel earth or multiverse, then a divine being could exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    No human will ever see these things with their own eyes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,676 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    No human will ever see these things with their own eyes

    We just have to take their word that they exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Thread title should be
    Black Holes, me hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Stephen Gawking


    As Neil Degass Tyson stated the great thing about science is that even if you don't believe it its true or words to that effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    He might, in another earth or parallel dimension. Anything is possible.

    A typing cloven hoof? I'd like to read your peer reviewed paper Sir!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    How do you explain Diana Ross then op?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Disgruntled Badger


    Black hole...fnarr fnarr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    NIMAN wrote: »
    We just have to take their word that they exist.

    You'd take the word of a black hole over that of an anonymous poster on the internet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Disgruntled Badger


    :-0


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    Who's gonna break the bad news to Stephen Hawking that he's wasted his life studying something that doesn't even exist. Poor fella.

    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    NIMAN wrote: »
    When I hear stories like this today I find it all hard to fathom out.

    So 2 black holes collided 1 billion light years away (just think about that distance for one minute) and we picked up a reading of it on earth?

    Can we see 1 billion light years away?
    Can they say for certain that 2 black holes collided or are they guessing?

    Precisely. It is an act of faith in something that may or may not have happened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Everything except there being a God?

    we can have parallel universes, black holes colliding 1 billion light years away, worm holes etc etc yet mention God and people call you crazy.

    Have you got a peer reviewed study pointing towards evidence that god exists?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I have a black hole....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    NIMAN wrote: »
    We just have to take their word that they exist.


    Like the Holy Ghost, Leprechauns and Pixies so...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    True. Most people who read his books are illiterates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    Or women. Or manners. Or how not to be a complete and utter d*ck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    50 years ago you same conformists on here would be defending Archbishop McQuid's Mother and Child bull**** simply because he was a 'respected' authority figure and attacking anyone who pointed out that he was full of **** and a spoofer.


    Nothing ever changes. Different generation, same conformists who question nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    My brothers wife is from Tanzania, I can assure you Black Holes do exist

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    uch wrote: »
    My brothers wife is from Tanzania, I can assure you Black Holes do exist

    Hai Ryan Giggs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Can we see 1 billion light years away?

    We can see further than that, the Universe in around 15 billion years old, has been expanding ever since and is accelerating, it is now expanding faster than the speed of light. This means we will never see the very first stars born but we can see the ones born soon after.

    When we see a star 15 billion light years away, that is what the star looked like and where is was 15 billion years ago. It could have exploded as of now but we are looking into the past.

    When you look at the sun you are looking at where it was 8 minutes ago. If the sun stopped burning right now we would still get another 8 minutes of light from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Like Dark Matter, they are purely theoretical and represent the Leprechauns and Pixies of Cosmology.

    This is why I am extremely sceptical about this Gravity Wave hype today.

    They are using their imaginary space friends as the control subjects.

    yeah and the earth is flat and god is real :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Always thought the same about dark matter and dark energy.
    They're basically making sh1t up to fit their models.They may well be right but it's still makey uppy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    kneemos wrote: »
    Always thought the same about dark matter and dark energy.
    They're basically making sh1t up to fit their models.They may well be right but it's still makey uppy.

    Gravitational wave were made up to fit the models but they are now proven to exist.

    Blackholes were theory too at one point but it was decades before one was proven to exit.

    It's not made up as there is strong evidence to prove that these things do exit and the laws of physics allow for them to exist.

    Like the way the laws of physics allow for the possibility of time travel into the future but not the past. We can't do it with todays tech but it is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    kneemos wrote: »
    ...They may well be right but it's still makey uppy.

    Like those flip open things they had decades ago on Star Trek to communicate with each other and the way they could see the person on the screen as they spoke with them.
    Totally makey uppy then.. but so common place now. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Like those flip open things they had decades ago on Star Trek to communicate with each other and the way they could see the person on the screen as they spoke with them.
    Totally makey uppy then.. but so common place now. :pac:


    Or teleportation. Yeah right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    kneemos wrote: »
    Or teleportation. Yeah right.

    Didn't scientists actually manage to transport matter a few years ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It has already happened many times.

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    You do realise that is the idea of his books so that people who know little about science then learn some?

    And Hawkings by the way, who still works in Cambridge is very much a scientist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Everything except there being a God?

    we can have parallel universes, black holes colliding 1 billion light years away, worm holes etc etc yet mention God and people call you crazy.

    Nobody would call you crazy but there is nothing researched, observed or proven about God. It's all made up, unlike work with black holes etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    ClovenHoof wrote: »

    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    Is that not exactly who the books are aimed for ? (Not that you should throw books at people!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭weisses


    Ever since learning there is a bleached version, I have no issues believing there are black holes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    ClovenHoof wrote:
    Hawkins is a celebrity more than a scientist. People who read his books know little or nothing about science.

    Maybe you should spend less time reading his books, and more time reading his journal articles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    dont take my multicoloured swirly thing away :(


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