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Would you vote if you had absolutely no idea about politics?

  • 11-02-2016 08:14PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭


    Everybody over the age of 18 is eligible to vote, but should they?

    Personally, I've never voted. I was shamed by a family member for this in recent days, but I'm not ashamed of it. I'm not ashamed because the reason I don't vote is quite simple: I have absolutely no idea who the f*ck any of these people are, or what their parties do.

    You might think I'm playing dumb - I'm not. I know as much about Fine Gael as I do about spending time in a Russian gulag. I lack knowledge and understanding of Irish politics at a very, very basic level. Because of this ignorance, I prefer not to vote rather than walk into the voting place blindfolded and effectively take complete guesses. This doesn't benefit Ireland. It's a wasted vote in my view and that's why no party will be getting my vote.

    Is this wrong, or should I vote simply for the sake of voting? Voting because you think it makes you some sort of upstanding citizen is what I don't understand. To me, it kind of defeats the purpose, but I would like to know the opinion of others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    How can any adult function in Ireland without at least a basic understanding of Irish politics? What do you talk about at work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    The sad thing is, a lot of people in this country have NO idea about politics/voting etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,105 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    How can any adult function in Ireland without at least a basic understanding of Irish politics? What do you talk about at work?

    I'd guess they talk about work maybe or sports or the weather. Lots of things to talk about really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I'd vote Mattie McGrath if I hadn't a clue, love the way he wobbles Mr Jelly Kelly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    I'd guess they talk about work maybe or sports or the weather. Lots of things to talk about really.
    I don't think I've ever gone a day without someone giving out about one political party or other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    I don't think I've ever gone a day without someone giving out about one political party or other.

    The people you interact with must be some boring cúnts :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Jack Killian


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Everybody over the age of 18 is eligible to vote, but should they?

    Personally, I've never voted. I was shamed by a family member for this in recent days, but I'm not ashamed of it. I'm not ashamed because the reason I don't vote is quite simple: I have absolutely no idea who the f*ck any of these people are, or what their parties do.

    You might think I'm playing dumb - I'm not. I know as much about Fine Gael as I do about spending time in a Russian gulag. I lack knowledge and understanding of Irish politics at a very, very basic level. Because of this ignorance, I prefer not to vote rather than walk into the voting place blindfolded and effectively take complete guesses. This doesn't benefit Ireland. It's a wasted vote in my view and that's why no party will be getting my vote.

    Is this wrong, or should I vote simply for the sake of voting? Voting because you think it makes you some sort of upstanding citizen is what I don't understand. To me, it kind of defeats the purpose, but I would like to know the opinion of others.

    I'd admire this. Yes, it would be better if more people checked things out and helped ensure that Ireland got better and more accountable governance, but the main reason we need that is because far too many people vote without thinking for themselves, following a pathetic family allegiance, or for themselves, with the likes of O'Dea or Lowry sorting their medical card or planning permission.

    So if you don't know what you're imposing on yourself and the rest of us, don't vote. I voted a certain way last time out and am sorry I did - looking forward to correcting the error this time.

    The only downside of that would be that if by not voting you let some slimy fecker in that you me vote could have kept out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    In my experience, people that don't vote have no qualms about moaning and whinging about 'the gubberment' at every opportunity.

    Voting should be compulsory imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    I wonder will all the people who voted in the so called 'Equality' referendum be as quick out of the traps this time round?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Jack Killian


    In my experience, people that don't vote have no qualms about moaning and whinging about 'the gubberment' at every opportunity.

    Voting should be compulsory imo.

    Unfortunately it would be a "least worst" choice most of the time. And it would probably result in begrudging voting where the biggest eejit/crank got a #1

    Admittedly we get that anyway. But it would make it worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    The sad thing is, a lot of people in this country have NO idea about politics/voting etc...

    Who's fault is that? People have to take time to inform themselves and if they don't care their entitled not to vote. We are not like Australia or Belgium which expect compulsory voting. Let people chose for themselves, if they don't care not my concern.:pac:


  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trouble with Ireland is we don't have anyone who can stir it up like Donald Trump!
    He's a mental case, but he knows how to appeal to a vast amount of people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    It's more like being asked do you want more services or to pay less tax every five years and you go 'yeah, whatever, not buvvered like, all the same ra ra ra' and then come crying to us when you're paying 75% tax and can only get a post office open for three hours on a Thursday afternoon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Jack Killian


    Trouble with Ireland is we don't have anyone who can stir it up like Donald Trump!
    He's a mental case, but he knows how to appeal to a vast amount of people.

    Enda ? Well, bar the stirring.... and the appealing....

    OK, as you were...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Trouble with Ireland is we don't have anyone who can stir it up like Donald Trump!
    He's a mental case, but he knows how to appeal to a vast amount of people.
    Ming?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    How can any adult function in Ireland without at least a basic understanding of Irish politics? What do you talk about at work?

    Hey, I married an Irishman and moved here from Texas a couple years ago. I didn't marry him because I was an Irish politics wonk. At work, we talk about work. I'm especially frustrated because my politics align with parties that have OTHER politics that I wouldn't touch with someone else's ten-meter pole. It's moot this year because I don't qualify to vote at all, but no, no, NO, NONONONO, I would not vote in an election I knew f-all about, any more than I would buy a house without looking at it first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭XplaygirlX


    No. I'm not ar$ed about votin. Never was and never will be. Ive no instrest in politics. Never did. So don't care


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭jackwigan


    Imagine if you were denied the opportunity to vote, if you had zero say.

    You might feel differently about it then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    The best argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter
    *bangs head off desk*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    The best argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter
    *bangs head off desk*

    The way I usually put it is, "no matter who gets elected, a politician takes office".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭jackwigan


    Speedwell wrote: »
    The way I usually put it is, "no matter who gets elected, a politician takes office".

    Who am I supposed to vote for? The Democrat who is going to blast me in the ass? Or the Republican who's blasting my ass


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,418 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Trouble with Ireland is we don't have anyone who can stir it up like Donald Trump!
    He's a mental case, but he knows how to appeal to a vast amount of people.

    I, like most people I reckon, would not see that as a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    If you don't have a clue who to vote try something like this:

    http://smartvote.ie/

    It'll show which politicians are most in line with your thinking on some issues, worked out pretty much in line with what I was thinking anyway...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    jackwigan wrote: »
    Who am I supposed to vote for? The Democrat who is going to blast me in the ass? Or the Republican who's blasting my ass

    Depends how you feel about your ass, I suppose. The good thing about realizing that it's a game you can't win is that you can at least preserve your dignity by voting for the candidate that keeps the worst lot out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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