John Cleese will no longer perform at university campuses over political correctness

Boskowski · 06-02-2016 11:12AM

BunkMoreland wrote: »

What's to get? There's nothing complex about them to "get".

I was told I just don't " get" Mrs Brown's Boys by the same guy that loves Monty Python and Only Fools and Horses.

Comedy for simpletons.

Well anyone who puts Monty Pythons and Ms Browns Boys (argh) in the same sentence obviously doesn't get it. Now I'm not saying every single MP joke out there is deep and meaningful, some of it is just stupid and meant to be, but surely you can't compare these two. Monty Pythons were deeply rebellious and satyrical and critical of the encrusted old empire generation and their time in general where Ms Browns Boys is just a fella with a woman's clothes on using a lot of bad language. But then maybe I don't get Ms Browns Boys.

Boom_Bap · 06-02-2016 11:15AM

I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast recently...as well as being a commentator on the UFC, he is a stand up comedian. They went through a massive list one time of comedians that refuse to play universities now because there are too many rules for what can be said and not said.
So a comedian has to re-write their routine on short notice dependant on the venue.
And secondly, the backlash they get on social media if they say one thing that doesn't agree with one person. It only takes one person to get some traction on social media.

Buona Fortuna · 06-02-2016 11:28AM

Yes BB, but its also probably a good get out for a 76y/o who has probably had his best days and may be stuggling for material / lack of invites - who knows what.

Oh fcuk did I just upset the ageists.:(

Pat Mustard · 06-02-2016 11:32AM

SterlingArcher wrote: »

wheres I will have to put up with a stint in a cell for winking at the opposite sex.

Winking, eh?

freedominacup · 06-02-2016 11:43AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"we were told this was funny, someone stick the Eddie Murphy video back on".

Especially if you want the offenseometer to actually explode.

RayM · 06-02-2016 11:44AM

I don't know how people can accuse John Cleese of dining out on his past success...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9tSN0178Us

kneemos · 06-02-2016 11:50AM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast recently...as well as being a commentator on the UFC, he is a stand up comedian. They went through a massive list one time of comedians that refuse to play universities now because there are too many rules for what can be said and not said.
So a comedian has to re-write their routine on short notice dependant on the venue.
And secondly, the backlash they get on social media if they say one thing that doesn't agree with one person. It only takes one person to get some traction on social media.

Anarchy RIP.

Azalea · 06-02-2016 12:28PM

Boskowski wrote: »

While on the other hand your little one liner screams 'lovely nice balanced person here' at me. Bit ironic isn't it?

They were being ironic when they said that.

It was in response to the post about people using the "political correctness fascism" trope about being criticised for saying stuff that would made Alf Garnett blush. I hate excessive political correctness myself, but I agree that line does also get used by people who just want to spew any auld vitriol.

I love Fawlty Towers though. Monty Python... of its time mostly, but some gems.

Mesrine65 · 06-02-2016 12:28PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I don't see John Cheese whining on this thread. What's his username?

suicide_circus wrote: »

Care to name the hate filled cünts on this thread?

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

Oh myyyy you seem to have dropped your gauntlet.

suicide_circus wrote: »

Are you his man-at-arms? Let the man spoof his own battles

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

Sorry didn't realise you were having a private thing.

Comedy gold right here in AH :pac::pac::pac:

Nodin · 06-02-2016 01:35PM

Pat Mustard wrote: »

Winking, eh?

....wasn't with the eyes in his head though.

Mesrine65 · 06-02-2016 02:05PM

Nodin wrote: »

....wasn't with the eyes in his head though.

Wee Willy Winky

Shurimgreat · 06-02-2016 03:22PM

I am probably alone on this thread thinking that Cleese is funny, was funny and is still funny. My understanding is he's in semi retirement these days and did a tour only to pay off an ex wife. When he appears on chat shows he is usually quite funny.

As for political correctness, Cleese has been a victim more than most. The Life of Brian, despite being one of the funniest films of all time, I don't believe was ever shown on terrestrial TV here or in the UK, due to its satire of religion. Cleese knows only too well that satire risks offending one group or another. He's not willing to change to suit the PC brigade nor should he have to.

Anyways, its not Cleese alone that is no longer performing, its a wider issue. You can't say anything on college campuses these days without someone being outraged at it.

The Randy Riverbeast · 06-02-2016 03:30PM

Any comedian who does this is as bad as the PC whiners. When a child throws a tantrum you don't give them what they want. There are plenty of comedians and comedy shows which are known for being some of the least PC things in the world and they do fine.

I have yet to hear of any comedian refusing to do a show in colleges that I would go see anyway.

Richard Hillman · 06-02-2016 03:41PM

I think he is spot on about how people are trying to control people. They use faux-outrage to try and manipulate people into doing things.

I wish this was highlighted more. Since the Internet became accessible to everybody, your Twitter Mobs and Fart-sniffing lefties having being using Faux-Outrage to control people.

Azalea · 06-02-2016 05:45PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think he is spot on about how people are trying to control people. They use faux-outrage to try and manipulate people into doing things.

I wish this was highlighted more.

You're having a laugh obviously. It's highlighted day in, day out.

Austria! · 07-02-2016 02:28AM

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

Yes BB, but its also probably a good get out for a 76y/o who has probably had his best days and may be stuggling for material / lack of invites - who knows what.

Oh fcuk did I just upset the ageists.:(

I really doubt JC is struggling for a lack of invites. He's one of the most famous comedians in the world.

Mint Aero · 07-02-2016 02:39AM

It's been a number of years now since Mint Aero waged war on the PC brigade. I've truly won this battle. I've driven society into a demented spiral of PC hysteria that soon it will collapse and sh*t on itself into a mother f*ckers hole. You're welcome and God bless your testicles Mr. Cleese. One of the greatest satirist.

prinzeugen · 07-02-2016 02:40AM

BunkMoreland wrote: »

What's to get? There's nothing complex about them to "get".

I was told I just don't " get" Mrs Brown's Boys by the same guy that loves Monty Python and Only Fools and Horses.

Comedy for simpletons.

Bet you think Ricky Gervais is funny. If end if the pier comedy is crap why has Monty Python, One foot in the grave, only fools and horses, Peter Kay etc etc lasted longer than the ****e that is pumped out by Gervais and Michael MacIntyre.

Or do you think you are above us simpletons in intellect and everything else.

Azalea · 07-02-2016 02:42AM

I don't like Ricky Gervais's stand-up but Extras and Life's Too Short are hilarious.

Richard Hillman · 07-02-2016 02:43AM

Azalea wrote: »

You're having a laugh obviously. It's highlighted day in, day out.

As in highlighted publicly. The media are still sponsoring faux-outrage and manipulation of people that do not tow their strict line of liberalism

VinLieger · 07-02-2016 03:16AM

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Any comedian who does this is as bad as the PC whiners. When a child throws a tantrum you don't give them what they want. There are plenty of comedians and comedy shows which are known for being some of the least PC things in the world and they do fine.

I have yet to hear of any comedian refusing to do a show in colleges that I would go see anyway.

Ohh get over yourself this kind of PC garbage needs to be called out whenever it pops up so it doesn't become the norm. Freedom of speech needs to be enshrined everywhere and if people have a problem with what someone else says they can always choose not to listen instead of forcing them to say what they deem to be okay

Herb Powell · 07-02-2016 03:19AM

I find it really amusing that the people who seem to be doing the most shouting about freedom of speech on college campuses seem to be mostly people who likely haven't seen a college campus in many years.

Just saying.

TheLastMohican · 07-02-2016 04:26AM

Too many long haired man and short haired women on the board, methinks

DEFTLEFTHAND · 07-02-2016 06:19AM

George Carlin also spoke about this problem towards the of his life, this has been an issue for a quite a few years. Carlin himself was a liberal.

The problem exists because the SJW culture who run the Student Union no longer have a sense of humour. They can no longer distinguish a joke from actual sentiment.

It's sad really, equality means that all people can be subject to ridicule and mockery in the discipline of standup comedy.

galljga1 · 07-02-2016 06:37AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

George Carlin also spoke about this problem towards the of his life, this has been an issue for a quite a few years. Carlin himself was a liberal.

The problem exists because the SJW culture who run the Student Union no longer have a sense of humour. They can no longer distinguish a joke from actual sentiment.

It's sad really, equality means that all people can be subject to ridicule and mockery in the discipline of standup comedy.

The same could be said of some of the AH mods.

Your Face · 07-02-2016 06:51AM

Who?

LordSutch · 07-02-2016 09:19AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought MP was mostly unfunny, I can't think of one sketch that made me laugh.

But can you really remember the eruption when it 1st aired on TV?

Watching re-runs is all very well, but when Monty Python 1st arrived on our screens in 1969-1974 it was like nothing else we had ever seen before!

It was fresh, it was irreverent, it was quirky, rude, naughty, totally mad, and very crazy (in a nice way), oh and it was utterly brilliant in its time

)

PS; Loved Dave Allen & Benny Hill too . . . . . .

The Rape of Lucretia · 07-02-2016 09:29AM

BigJackC wrote: »

It's pretty simple, if you don't want to hear what a comedian says, then don't go to their show and realise that the world doesn't revolve around you.

If you want to develop as a person, and get over your restraining hangups, you probably should go though. And examining why you are uncomfortable with what you are hearing, why it offends you, and realise that the problems is yours rather than the speaker's.

suicide_circus · 07-02-2016 10:30AM

Herb Powell wrote: »

I find it really amusing that the people who seem to be doing the most shouting about freedom of speech on college campuses seem to be mostly people who likely haven't seen a college campus in many years.

Just saying.

These are the people who remember college campuses as places of free ideas, places where one could express literally any opinion and through diaclectic discussion, work out the merits of various points of view. This is no longer the case as "offense" and "triggers" have made campuses far more conservative environments. This is not good for the development of the thinking mind or critical thinking and does not prepare one for the real world.

Ave Sodalis · 07-02-2016 10:50AM

suicide_circus wrote:

This is no longer the case as "offense" and "triggers" have made campuses far more conservative environments. This is not good for the development of the thinking mind or critical thinking and does not prepare one for the real world.

I can honestly say that I have never experienced this.

John Cleese will no longer perform at university campuses over political correctness

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