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RTE cameraman attacked by Gardai

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  • #62
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And there are people on here who would have a go at the Guards if they were caught on camera looking the wrong way at a serial killer.

    Is it 1 all on the silly exaggerations?

    Nice selective quoting...


  • #63
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    They were attacking people in a shop with innocent shoppers and workers.

    Tell me what the gards should have done?
    Pull them out by the scruffs of their necks and the odd slap with a baton of they continue to advance?


  • #64
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    masti123 wrote: »
    Member of the Gardaí loses the run of himself and attacks a member of the press, and the consensus is he must have had good reason to do it.
    Yep, boards is still boards.

    Thankfully yes. I saw the video. It sounded like people being told to keep back and refusing. RTE cameraman was far too close. Others were driven back with a single blow. A small line of Gardai keeping one group of idiots from another group of idiots and trying to keep the streets safe. Nothing surprising in the comments and thanks from those who think policing these situations is a matter for squealing "why can't we all get on". PC bull****.


  • #65
    Mourinho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Mourinho


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    At this stage it was in fact a contained riot. The gardai had pushed people intent on physical harm of a (non violent ) protest, a mob that chased guys down a street and into the shop. This happened after that.

    Yes a mob of "tolerant" left wing protestors using violence and intimidation against those with opposing views.

    Who are the real fascists here?


  • #66
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Collie D wrote: »
    Nice selective quoting...

    Huh?

    It was a direct quote. If you think you left an open goal, bit late now!


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  • #67
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Mourinho wrote: »
    Yes a mob of "tolerant" left wing protestors using violence and intimidation against those with opposing views.

    Who are the real fascists here?

    My irony meter is in pieces not sure it's repairable


  • #68
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,730 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    you d be surprised what adrenaline does ta yea


  • #69
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Just because Gardai are allowed to tell people to leave, doesn't mean we can't object to cases in which they shouldn't. Protests should be allowed to happen unless they turn violent, not just shut down because they might.

    I suppose this apply s to you being pissed at 4 am standing in the middle of the road ?

    Just because you dont agree with being told to do something doesn't mean you have the right to stand in the street and argue with gardai about it

    self entitled T$&T


  • #70
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    The guard must have thought the cameraman belonged to the group attacking the protesters. See's the cameraman with his back to him and thinks to himself "I'll have a bit of that".

    Straight out of the junior hurling playbook. As soon as the back is turned give him a good hard flake, step back and start goading like a hard shaw.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #71
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    They were attacking people in a shop with innocent shoppers and workers.

    Tell me what the gards should have done?

    Not hit a cameraman perhaps?


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  • #72
    Clandestine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    I had a good laugh at all the communist flags present at the rally. These people have no self awareness do they?


  • #73
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Hey dim witted RTE camera boy

    As you read this I'm laughing at your squealing

    'You can't hit cameras' 'camera' 'you can't hit cameras'

    Well today was a lesson in law and order for you

    Camera people can be hit, legally

    Next time a Garda or Gardai repeatedly instruct you, try complying with their direction

    Now go change your ice pack, fool.


  • #74
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,566 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    His camera is still reeling from the blow
    Might never work again.


  • #75
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Huh?

    It was a direct quote. If you think you left an open goal, bit late now!

    You ignored the bit where I said I appreciate the job they do. I don't instantly have a go at the Guards. This was one was called as I saw it...one Guard with too much adrenaline.

    You've lost me with the football analogy.


  • #76
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Collie D wrote: »
    You ignored the bit where I said I appreciate the job they do. I don't instantly have a go at the Guards. This was one was called as I saw it...one Guard with too much adrenaline.

    You've lost me with the football analogy.

    Nice selective editing.

    You also made a general comment about posters here, not just about one Garda.

    Check out the bit I quoted above.


  • #77
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    my friend wrote: »
    Hey dim witted RTE camera boy

    As you read this I'm laughing at your squealing

    'You can't hit cameras' 'camera' 'you can't hit cameras'

    Well today was a lesson in law and order for you

    Camera people can be hit, legally

    Next time a Garda or Gardai repeatedly instruct you, try complying with their direction

    Now go change your ice pack, fool.

    You sure about that? What defines a camera person by the way? Can I batter the next person who stands in front of me at a gig with his/her iPhone in the air and obscuring my view?


  • #78
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    I suppose this apply s to you being pissed at 4 am standing in the middle of the road ?

    Just because you dont agree with being told to do something doesn't mean you have the right to stand in the street and argue with gardai about it

    self entitled T$&T

    Well, actually you do (within reason of course). Although we seem to be heading towards it we don't yet live in a police state.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #79
    ford2600
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    As someone who in a different life was in a few pretty nasty rows involving up to 40 people, it's hard to expect ALL Gardai to behave perfectly. When in such a situation one needs to be pretty pumped to be useful.

    Our newer rational brain has a really hard time controlling our ancient brain when we are pumped.

    Act the cnut in a large group on a city street and you have it coming; in saying that while cameraman was stupid not sure he needed the baton.

    One garda was an a$$hole the rest behaved with restraint.


  • #80
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Collie D wrote: »
    You sure about that? What defines a camera person by the way? Can I batter the next person who stands in front of me at a gig with his/her iPhone in the air and obscuring my view?

    There's no protection for 'camera people' do you have difficulty with basic comprehension

    Camera person = member of the public


  • #81
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nice selective editing.

    You also made a general comment about posters here, not just about one Garda.

    Check out the bit I quoted above.

    I said some posters. And I didn't edit anything?!


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  • #82
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Collie D wrote: »
    You sure about that? What defines a camera person by the way? Can I batter the next person who stands in front of me at a gig with his/her iPhone in the air and obscuring my view?

    There is a big difference between a Garda directing a crowd to disperse to prevent what he perceives as a threat to public order and reacting to someone using an iPhone.


  • #83
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    my friend wrote: »
    There's no protection for 'camera people' do you have difficulty with basic comprehension

    Camera person = member of the public

    You said they can be hit legally. My comprehension is fine. Maybe you should word it better. And I'm pretty sure Guards can't lash out like that legally.


  • #84
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Collie D wrote: »
    You said they can be hit legally. My comprehension is fine. Maybe you should word it better. And I'm pretty sure Guards can't lash out like that legally.

    You part quoted, but as already displayed by you we understand you have comprehension difficulties . Try reading my posts in their entirety.

    Noted you are the only one struggling here. I'll go kindly by ignoring you.


  • #85
    Calibos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,931 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Reads OP and before clicking Youtube link thinks to oneself. Bet its a mountain being made out of a molehill as usual in these 'Garda Brutality' videos...

    .....YEP!! :rolleyes:


  • #86
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Was Robocop there?


  • #87
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    my friend wrote: »
    You part quoted, but as already displayed by you we understand you have comprehension difficulties . Try reading my posts in their entirety.

    Noted

    I fully quoted and bolded the piece I believed to be invalid. You said cameramen can be hit legally. I don't think Guards have a legal right to hit out like that - hardly reasonable force. So instead of getting personal and trying to speak down to me why don't you back it up?


  • #88
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Just because Gardai are allowed to tell people to leave, doesn't mean we can't object to cases in which they shouldn't. Protests should be allowed to happen unless they turn violent, not just shut down because they might.
    If a a situation is escalating the gardaí have the right to order protesters to leave the vicinity. If the gardaí are only allowed to step in after the protest has turned violent there would be a lot more injuries and damage to property.


  • #89
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    JRant wrote: »
    Well, actually you do (within reason of course). Although we seem to be heading towards it we don't yet live in a police state.

    show me where ? with a link or post or anything ?


  • #90
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Try that in Texas.


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  • #91
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Try that in Texas.
    Try it in Germany, or any other European state. When a guard orders you to leave you leave. These guys have a very difficult job to do.


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