Flat screen Tellies.

colossus-x · 06-02-2016 04:05PM

Double Post.

Tony EH · 06-02-2016 04:07PM

LDN_Irish wrote: »

I remember reading something about plasmas being prone to "screen burn" which made them a poor choice for people who play games on the TV. Saw a few pics of a TV with Eastenders on and COD burned in to the screen.

Screen burn hasn't been a real issue for years on either comp monitors or TVs though. But, I've seen some gas examples.

The problem with Plasmas is that that their lifespan is kind of miserly and unquantifiable too. You could have one for 2 years and something will go wrong, or you can have one for 10 until something goes wrong. When they go pop, they're buggered, however.

A buddy of mine had one and after a few years, white spots began to appear on the screen. He continued to look at it, but that kind of thing would drive me wild.

I can't even watch stations with those poxy station logos in the corner of the screen.

Another infuriating "Americanism" that diseased our screens.

At the mo, I have a 32in Samsung el cheapo LCD that has one of the best pictures I've seen on any flat screen TV. I was going to trade up to a 42in series 7 a couple of years ago, but never bothered.

I've never been a fan of LCD. My first one, I bought in 2007 and traded it for an older Philips CRT with someone else. It was awful though. False edges all over the place, aliasing, etc. It was terrible to watch and sport especially was rubbish.

sonofenoch · 06-02-2016 04:11PM

Not a fan of these new fangled color tv's .....unless I'm watching Ray Reardon on pot black

bbbbb · 06-02-2016 04:15PM

Masala wrote: »

Same here..... Love my Panasonic 42 inch!!!! Mine over 6 yrs now. Paid close to €900 at time with 5 yr warranty. Wonder what my options 'if' it ever gives up on me!!!

Me three. Watching the rugby atm.
Around 2010 was when they dropped below the €1,000 mark, making them "affordable"

Tony EH · 06-02-2016 04:17PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Not a fan of these new fangled color tv's .....unless I'm watching Ray Reardon on pot black

"and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green"

ScumLord · 06-02-2016 04:18PM

smash wrote: »

The problem is that you're supposed get a tv to fit a space in a room, not do the Irish thing and big a huge tv and build your room around it.

/goes back to watching my 65" from 5ft away

Pft, I got a projector and a 98" screen, I sit maybe 10 ft away from it. Projectors are brilliant. Unfortunately they only have a 3000 hour life on the bulbs, as opposed to maybe 60,000 on your LCD. So at the moment I've got a big blank screen.

Tin Foil Hat · 06-02-2016 04:26PM

Menas wrote: »

Better sound off those CRT tellies too....

Yea. You can make a good screen 1cm thick, but you cant make a good speaker that thin.
And there's no reason whatsoever to make them than thin anyway. What's the point? It's a telly. You put it in the corner of the room and leave it in the same exact spot for years on end.

Junkyard Tom · 06-02-2016 05:42PM

Bunk knows clothes.
Wibbs knows TV's.

warpdrive · 06-02-2016 05:58PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Yea. You can make a good screen 1cm thick, but you cant make a good speaker that thin.
And there's no reason whatsoever to make them than thin anyway. What's the point? It's a telly. You put it in the corner of the room and leave it in the same exact spot for years on end.

Some manufacturers now have made some TVs so thin that they're starting to have all the electronics and speakers in the stand so the stand is basically a soundbar. So it's possible we'll start getting some really strong quality speakers in our TVs again

Andrewf20 · 06-02-2016 06:17PM

I find if I turn down the "backlight" it makes the image like a good old crt. Some folks have it turned up, the image blazing like a pixelated amiga 500 computer game.

galljga1 · 06-02-2016 07:53PM

Right, my 29 inch big ar$ed Sony Trinitron, after giving 17 years of service, has upped and died.
I have a 50 inch Panasonic plasma tv which is quite excellent and also heats the room.
To replace the Sony, I would go with plasma again if possible but would not go second hand, so that's a non runner.
What would you guys recommend in the 50 inch size range? Must have saorview and freesat tuners. I do not care about being curved, smart (alleged) features, 3D. My main requirement is to have a great picture. I know there is very little 4K content but upscaling will probably improve non 4K content.

Anyway, any suggestions?

galljga1 · 06-02-2016 07:53PM

Double post again.

While I am here, has 4K been fully standardised yet? What do I need to look for when making sure it has the latest standard?

warpdrive · 06-02-2016 07:57PM

galljga1 wrote: »

Right, my 29 inch big ar$ed Sony Trinitron, after giving 17 years of service, has upped and died.
I have a 50 inch Panasonic plasma tv which is quite excellent and also heats the room.
To replace the Sony, I would go with plasma again if possible but would not go second hand, so that's a non runner.
What would you guys recommend in the 50 inch size range? Must have saorview and freesat tuners. I do not care about being curved, smart (alleged) features, 3D. My main requirement is to have a great picture. I know there is very little 4K content but upscaling will probably improve non 4K content.

Anyway, any suggestions?

Buy a cheap 50" to pass 2 or 3 years with and then look into buying an OLED. Trying to get 'the best' TV possible right now will only cause heartache once 4K really does become the standard. By that time there'll be plenty of 4K content and we'll be back to similar places where people used to be able to definitively suggest top of the range TVs and they were exactly that and lasted years.

galljga1 · 06-02-2016 08:05PM

warpdrive wrote: »

Buy a cheap 50" to pass 2 or 3 years with and then look into buying an OLED. Trying to get 'the best' TV possible right now will only cause heartache once 4K really does become the standard. By that time there'll be plenty of 4K content and we'll be back to similar places where people used to be able to definitively suggest top of the range TVs and they were exactly that and lasted years.

Yeah, you are probably right. I am sort of leaning in this direction particularly as it is not for the main room but would not mind spending extra if it outshone my plasma but that is probably doubtful.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 06-02-2016 08:08PM

Do you have the Jooovc luckde tiv with dooved player?

timthumbni · 06-02-2016 08:09PM

For retro gamers wanting to play retro gem consoles such as snes, mega drive etc those in the know will tell you that modern led TVs are rubbish. You need an old crt big back heavy arse tv.

There is no argument here. The guys on the retro gaming forum like ciderman I think his name is will be around to put your windies in. And them guys do know their stuff.

Took my ages to get used to lcd TVs moving from crts. Lcds nowadays are good but if you want to out do your mate boasting about a 60 inch Sony then you need to introduce a projector with a 10 foot screen.

warpdrive · 06-02-2016 08:18PM

galljga1 wrote: »

Yeah, you are probably right. I am sort of leaning in this direction particularly as it is not for the main room but would not mind spending extra if it outshone my plasma but that is probably doubtful.

It is, only OLEDs will do that so it'll be worth the wait. Keep an eye on Bargain Alerts, they've decent deals posted there occasionally. There was a 55" 1080p Samsung posted there recently for €650 which would be a great example

galljga1 · 06-02-2016 08:21PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do you have the Jooovc luckde tiv with dooved player?

I had to look that up.

Capt'n Midnight · 06-02-2016 10:10PM

deco nate wrote: »

Google make and model *best settings *and do the sub hues or whatever its called.
and that will fix it. Pre sets are crap. Main color go by eye.

or download calibration files to play and adjust the display see http://lifehacker.com/5858625/how-to-calibrate-your-hdtv-and-boost-your-video-quality-in-30-minutes-or-less

MP4 files if you have HDMI or chromecast 21MB 7zip format http://www.7-zip.org/download.html other files , you can burn a disk and forum

warpdrive · 06-02-2016 11:23PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

or download calibration files to play and adjust the display see http://lifehacker.com/5858625/how-to-calibrate-your-hdtv-and-boost-your-video-quality-in-30-minutes-or-less

MP4 files if you have HDMI or chromecast 21MB 7zip format http://www.7-zip.org/download.html other files , you can burn a disk and forum

Is it possible to put this on a HDD and play it through the bluray player?

deco nate · 07-02-2016 12:58AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

or download calibration files to play and adjust the display see http://lifehacker.com/5858625/how-to-calibrate-your-hdtv-and-boost-your-video-quality-in-30-minutes-or-less

MP4 files if you have HDMI or chromecast 21MB 7zip format http://www.7-zip.org/download.html other files , you can burn a disk and forum

YES, but their is so many settings, it's better to read and understand what you are doing.
More than the above post.
That's good for a quick fix. Imo, it's better to read up and understand everything. But it does take time.
I would post a link to the site I used but I used my phone for it last year, and that phone died badly, and I can't remember the site.

But it explains everything in detail.
Best to spend a bit of more time to get it right.

07-02-2016 01:09AM

Just type your model number of TV into YouTube and Kelman calibration settings and I'm sure you will find what your looking for, this one applies to my TV, have a look at the channel and see is your one listed :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF-x5e65910

riclad · 07-02-2016 10:04AM

Do you have the Jooovc luckde tiv with dooved player

I understand do you have the ,
the rest means nothing .

i presume you mean a device like a roku with with a video player app.
Re burn in my friend has 2 plasma tvs, theres no burn in on either
Try not to have sky news or a tv station with a logo onscreen on for hours .
Change channels when the ads come on .
Chromecast is cheap ,it can play local video files off a laptop.
It can play almost any video website from chrome ,eg youtube, rte player ,
and there,s new apps coming out for it .
It can be used from any phone or tablet with a chrome browser .

LordSutch · 07-02-2016 10:24AM

kneemos wrote: »

Flat screen Tellies.
Anyone else not really a fan of these and find the picture a bit harsh to watch?
Great for sport,but a bit wearing otherwise.

Surely there are only flat screen TVs these days?

Big heavy CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) Tellies went out ten, twelve, fifteen years ago?

kneemos · 07-02-2016 10:29AM

LordSutch wrote: »

Surely there are only flat screen TVs these days?

Big heavy CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) Tellies went out ten, twelve, fifteen years ago?

CRT's last for generations.

Menas · 07-02-2016 10:31AM

kneemos wrote: »

CRT's last for generations.

True. They were built to last and the ones built prior to the 90's were built to be serviceable. So if something did go wrong they could be repaired by your local man with a soldering iron.
We live with disposable electronics these days. :mad:

mrcheez · 07-02-2016 01:00PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Just type your model number of TV into YouTube and Kelman calibration settings and I'm sure you will find what your looking for, this one applies to my TV, have a look at the channel and see is your one listed :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF-x5e65910

Cheers for this, I've seen several different calibration settings for this TV (I bought the 55" this month) and are these the best?

Gotta say I'm blown away by this compared to my "old" 37" Samsung that I bought in 2011.

Loving the 3D. Even 2D to 3D is suprisingly effective.

Watched Gravity and Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug yesterday in 3D BluRay and I don't understand why they are not making 3D TVs any longer. It's truly like being at the cinema.

Harry Palmr · 07-02-2016 01:05PM

Why can't people set up a telly so it displays something that looks like the real world? You don't need to be told how to calibrate that surely?

mrcheez · 07-02-2016 01:08PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Why can't people set up a telly so it displays something that looks like the real world? You don't need to be told how to calibrate that surely?

The bigger question is why don't TV manufacturers set up their TVs with the correct calibration in the first place

galljga1 · 07-02-2016 01:13PM

riclad wrote: »

Do you have the Jooovc luckde tiv with dooved player

I understand do you have the ,
the rest means nothing .

i presume you mean a device like a roku with with a video player app.
Re burn in my friend has 2 plasma tvs, theres no burn in on either
Try not to have sky news or a tv station with a logo onscreen on for hours .
Change channels when the ads come on .
Chromecast is cheap ,it can play local video files off a laptop.
It can play almost any video website from chrome ,eg youtube, rte player ,
and there,s new apps coming out for it .
It can be used from any phone or tablet with a chrome browser .

JVC LCD TV with DVD player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjH9cEoEup8

Flat screen Tellies.

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