Hollywood bashing Catholics yet again

RIGHTisRIGHT · 05-02-2016 03:10AM #1

When the Boston Globe's tenacious "Spotlight" team of reporters delves into allegations of abuse in the Catholic Church, their year-long investigation uncovers a decades-long cover-up at the highest levels of Boston's religious, legal, and government establishment, touching off a wave of revelations around the world

Some people will say this is fair game however I have yet to see a Hollywood film showing the horrors of the occupation of Palestine.

Also how much of the Films take is being donated to the victims of clerical abuse?

Sir Gallagher · 05-02-2016 03:18AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Some people will say this is fair game however I have yet to see a Hollywood film showing the horrors of the occupation of Palestine.

Also how much of the Films take is being donated to the victims of clerical abuse?

This film would have to outdo Titanic, Avatar and Star Wars combined for the victims of abuse under the Catholic Church to have enough money to put in the church envelope out of it.

drunkmonkey · 05-02-2016 03:24AM

I'd be in the fair game camp! Hopefully they'll get wind of what happened here and is still happening here to people in state care and blow the lid off the whole system.
I don't understand how the heads of the church, Garda and Politics have got away with what happened here, I do not believe that this wasn't known in all those circles.
If it's a box office hit the sequel may be filimed here and that's a good thing.

05-02-2016 03:27AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

I have yet to see a Hollywood film showing the horrors of the occupation of Palestine.

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Why the fukc is it "Hollywood's job" to display the occupation of Palestine based on your dislike of one movies display of child rape?

Why don't you just change the thread title to "Jews bashing Catholics" and be done with it? :rolleyes:

unfortunately · 05-02-2016 03:32AM

You say they are bashing Catholics, how exactly are they doing this?

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Some people will say this is fair game however I have yet to see a Hollywood film showing the horrors of the occupation of Palestine.

The film should never have been made then? Or not released until they made one about Palestine first?

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Also how much of the Films take is being donated to the victims of clerical abuse?

Seeing as you are implying they should give money, how much they should give to the victims of the clerical abuse/Church cover-up?

RIGHTisRIGHT · 05-02-2016 03:34AM

unfortunately wrote: »

You say they are bashing Catholics, how exactly are they doing this?

The film should never have been made then? Or not released until they made one about Palestine first?

Seeing as you are implying they should give money, how much they should give to the victims of the clerical abuse/Church cover-up?

Well since the point of the film is meant to be about the victims 1 or 2% of the profits would be a nice gesture.

unfortunately · 05-02-2016 03:37AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Well since the point of the film is meant to be about the victims 1 or 2% of the profits would be a nice gesture.

So do you still think the film should have been made or not?

And where's the Catholic bashing going on?

RIGHTisRIGHT · 05-02-2016 03:44AM

unfortunately wrote: »

So do you still think the film should have been made or not?

And where's the Catholic bashing going on?

I don't like censorship and I believe Hollywood and the rest of the media are very selective in what they will touch.
I just question the motives behind this film.

And I have no love for the church in Rome.
I suppose they are going to make a movie about the Rape epidemic in Sweden also.

05-02-2016 03:46AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Well since the point of the film is meant to be about the victims 1 or 2% of the profits would be a nice gesture.

A bit like asking Gary Glitter fans or the BBC license paying viewers of "Jim'll Fix It" in the 70's and 80's to pick up the bill for compensating those individual's victims. Let the pope sell his castle to pay for raped children for all I care, why should the rest of us be expected to?

unfortunately · 05-02-2016 03:51AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

I just question the motives behind this film.

Why do you think Hollywood made this film?

And where is the Catholic bashing?

Whyohwhy? · 05-02-2016 03:54AM

How about a film funded by the Irish film board documenting how the rch here has coughed up fcuk all compensation for their transgressions over the years...

Plenty of films out there about the illegal occupation of Palestine, they may not be Hollywood blockbusters but they are out there if you are willing to seek them out.

"Catholic bashing by Hollywood"? Stop messing and cop on, they deserve everything they get and more(as does pretty much every religion in fairness)

You with the iona institute(shudders...) by any chance?!?

Strumms · 05-02-2016 03:56AM

OP.. Can I ask have you seen the film ? aside from the promo trailer ? Saw the film tonight myself. I am not an expert on the actual goings on as regards that particular scandal, but there is no Catholic bashing in the film only certain individuals come over in a negative light. The story is more to do with the goings on of the spotlight team and how they went on to unravel the scandal and break the story. All of the Spotlight team were actually Catholic either lapsed or otherwise but the plot is not about bashing more about the intricacies of how they researched and broke the story. I'd say go and see it before you start the thread maybe...

As regards what is happening in Palestine etc.... many films made all be it not Hollywood. The Jewish lobby has an iron grip still in Hollywood since the golden age up to today can you think of any one character or film who or which has been cast in a negative light who was Jewish or a Jewish theme ?... maybe there were a couple but I can't remember. Many films made where of course where the baddie was black, American Indian, Irish, Mexican, Russian, White Supremacist yadda yadda... thats just how it is... sadly.

M5 · 05-02-2016 04:00AM

Poor ikle paedophile priests getting picked on? Boo hoo!

RIGHTisRIGHT · 05-02-2016 04:01AM

Strumms wrote: »

OP.. Can I ask have you seen the film ? aside from the promo trailer ? Saw the film tonight myself. I am not an expert on the actual goings on as regards that particular scandal, but there is no Catholic bashing in the film only certain individuals come over in a negative light. The story is more to do with the goings on of the spotlight team and how they went on to unravel the scandal and break the story. All of the Spotlight team were actually Catholic either lapsed or otherwise but the plot is not about bashing more about the intricacies of how they researched and broke the story. I'd say go and see it before you start the thread maybe...

As regards what is happening in Palestine etc.... many films made all be it not Hollywood. The Jewish lobby has an iron grip still in Hollywood since the golden age up to today can you think of any one character or film who or which has been cast in a negative light who was Jewish or a Jewish theme ?... maybe there were a couple but I can't remember. Many films made where of course where the baddie was black, American Indian, Irish, Mexican, Russian, White Supremacist yadda yadda... thats just how it is... sadly.

Yes that is my point.
And no I did not see the film I seen this in the cinema a few hours ago.
The trailer for Spotlight was the last one before the movie.

A fight for survival I would highly recommend the movie I seen tonight.

Strumms · 05-02-2016 04:09AM

Look you can't call it Catholic bashing and any criticism that is aimed towards the Catholic Church though whatever medium as regards their handling of child sex abuse and how they covered it up and how they dealt with the fallout is absolutely all on them and ****ing 1000% justified end of. nobody will be feeling sorry for them. If you do you are a cretin of the highest order. I save my sorry and sympathy for the victims, their friends and families and think how hard it was for them that they had to go through such experiences during and after and later when they had to battle for the truth to out, justice and some compensation and in this country the elite church still resisted when it came to putting their hand in their pocket and making it right...

Azalea · 05-02-2016 04:15AM

It's Catholic-bashing insofar as it is about an expose of child abuse carried out by Catholic clergy and covered up/accommodated by that church... i.e. not Catholic-bashing at all. It casts a negative light on the church but this is obviously the abusers'/church's own doing, it's not singling them out for hostility just because of merely being Catholic. After all, many of the victims are/were Catholic.
It's an indictment of abuse, which happened to be carried out by catholics. It's "child abuse bashing" (a fair form of bashing).

This is a massive issue which deserves a film about it (bizarre to think there's an agenda behind it other than a story about something that really happened and warrants being known). If Hollywood is hesitant to back movies that are an indictment against zionism, using this film (and the plight of the abused) isn't appropriate to make that point.

How do you mean "yet again", by the way?

RIGHTisRIGHT · 05-02-2016 04:17AM

Azalea wrote: »

How do you mean "yet again", by the way?

Harold & Kumar I can't remember which one was vile I won't get into it here.
I have made my point maybe not to well but there goes.

drunkmonkey · 05-02-2016 04:25AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Harold & Kumar I can't remember which one was vile I won't get into it here.

What have 2 stoners ever done to you?

Azalea · 05-02-2016 04:28AM

That's not Hollywood and they're comedies which take the piss out of Jews also btw, and other groups. Jewish comedy is regularly self deprecating.

How much of any film's revenue about victims of anything has been given to the victims?

lertsnim · 05-02-2016 04:37AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Harold & Kumar I can't remember which one was vile I won't get into it here.
I have made my point maybe not to well but there goes.

You are using South Park as an example of catholic bashing? Every faith has gotten a hammering on that show.

As for Larry David getting piss on the picture of Jesus, that and the hooha that followed is a funny situation, not an all out attack on your faith.

One eyed Jack · 05-02-2016 04:39AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What have 2 stoners ever done to you?

I'm wondering what the OP is smoking myself tbh. I can't make any sense of that opening post?

It's a film about an investigation by a team of dedicated people which led to the exposure of the magnitude of sexual abuse within the Catholic Church, and the OP appears to be complaining because nobody made a film about something else entirely?

What sort of whataboutery is going on there? I can't make head nor tails of it tbh.

vibe666 · 05-02-2016 04:43AM

Would you be complaining about a film focusing on operation yewtree as "Jimmy Saville bashing"?

Your hypocrisy is astounding. You want the makers of a movie to pay the victims of clerical sex abuse? How about the church pay their OWN victims for what they have done, why aren't you campaigning for THAT instead of complaining about pedophiles being exposed to the public?

Hundreds (if not thousands) of clergy are guilty of physically and sexually abusing many thousands of children over decades, and almost the entire clergy from the bottom to the very top are guilty of not only (repeatedly) covering it all up, but of allowing it to continue by moving priests around (and again, sometimes for decades), during arm tactics against victims families and paying hush money when they have to, and even now that they've been found out, they are still obstructing justice, hiding some of those responsible and refusing to compensate their victims for the damage they have caused.

A group of reporters helped to expose them, but still they refuse to do what is right, and the story is so shocking and outrageous that Hollywood decided it would make a good movie, so they made it, again drawing attention to the heinous behavior of the this morally corrupt organisation even to this day.

You want to end what you perceive as "Catholic bashing"? Well the rest of us want the perpetrators of the largest case of mass child sexual abuse in the world to pay for their crimes and to compensate their thousands of victims for the horrors they are responsible for.

What really scares me is the amount of people who are able to perform the ridiculous level of mental gymnastics it takes, not just to remain part of this morally corrupt organisation, but to actively defend them against their continually indefensible behavior.

The Randy Riverbeast · 05-02-2016 04:50AM

If an organisation doesnt want to be "bashed" then they probably shouldn't spend years covering up their abuse of children.

Considering the OP's posting history on other religious groups I would have expected him to be all for this. Seeing more antisemitism than "Catholic bashing" in this thread.

iamstop · 05-02-2016 05:59AM

IHMO The Catholick church deserves all the negative press it gets AND so much more. I have zero sympathy for anyone associated with it who feels anything said against it is too harsh.
They have destroyed countess lives in Ireland, literally (by letting babies die and anyone who has committed suicide as a result of their actions) and figuratively (by abusing children, covering it up and shaming single mothers and children born out of wedlock).
I was loosely raised as catholic because it was the done thing. My folk both agreed not to force it upon us by making us go to mass every Sunday or making us pray or recite sh1te from the bible or whatever. We went to Catholic schools cos that was pretty much the only choice.
My Da has stories of getting the sh1t kicked out of him by an alcoholic priest teacher simple for being. Regularly. His folks were powerless to do anything about it. It just WAS back then. Like it or lump it.
Well no more.
Sure, there may be good priests who care and give a damn etc but the whole organisation is rotten to the core IMO and has had FAR too much influence in Ireland for FAR too long. It STILL has!

/rant.

05-02-2016 06:29AM

The Jews Control Hollywood! You can only laugh.

Thread reeks of anti Semitism. How dare dem Jews show child rape in a bad light when something something about the Gaza Strip.

kneemos · 05-02-2016 07:42AM

Lets bash them catlicks.

mickstupp · 05-02-2016 07:48AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Some people will say this is fair game however I have yet to see a Hollywood film showing the horrors of the occupation of Palestine.

Not actually remotely relevant in any way whatsoever.

(I'd happily watch one though...)

Superhorse · 05-02-2016 07:54AM

A film exposing the worlds biggest pedo organisation, what's the problem?

kneemos · 05-02-2016 07:56AM

Superhorse wrote: »

A film exposing the worlds biggest pedo organisation, what's the problem?

Look at them,they're bashed.

05-02-2016 08:03AM

Superhorse wrote: »

A film exposing the worlds biggest pedo organisation, what's the problem?

Because it's the Jews what are mean to our good Cattlick child rapists, and they should leave us alone cos of the thing in the Gaza thing.

I don't think I've seen a poster use anti Semitism to stand up for child rape before, but the OP manages it.

stunmer · 05-02-2016 10:59AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Some people will say this is fair game however I have yet to see a Hollywood film showing the horrors of the occupation of Palestine.

Also how much of the Films take is being donated to the victims of clerical abuse?

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Harold & Kumar I can't remember which one was vile I won't get into it here.
I have made my point maybe not to well but there goes.

How oversensitive do you have to be to have a problem with these videos / film?

Hollywood bashing Catholics yet again

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