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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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  • #7982
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    The amount of chances we created yet missed would disprove the theory that our midfield was poor though. Not scoring is our main problem at the minute.

    I also have questions regarding some of the goals our defence conceded but missing easy scoring opportunities has been our main problem of late.

    Our problem is that from the very start of the season, it was known that we needed goals coming from our midfield and front 3. It just ain't happening.


  • #7983
    tayto lover
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    Basil3 wrote: »
    Our problem is that from the very start of the season, it was known that we needed goals coming from our midfield and front 3. It just ain't happening.

    True but the chances are being created. Ten on target the other night and none taken. We've seen it often before. You can bet your life that had we an Aguero, RVP, Costa or Suarez we would have scored.


  • #7984
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    An interesting thing is that in some of our best performances this season, Walcott has played as striker, and Giroud has been a great impact player when needed.

    Even though there's nothing wrong with Giroud's play right now, maybe we need to try Walcott up top for a couple of matches.


  • #7985
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    greendom wrote: »
    When? What?

    Buy a player who starts when we have injuries and at least makes the bench when we don't. What was the point in signing Elneny when he can't make the bench even with Wilshere and Rosicky out?


  • #7986
    emmetlego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭emmetlego


    It happens all strikers that they have a period each season where the goals dry up for a short time... It just so happens that all our players are going through it at the same time!!!!! We need to get out of this rut and quick. Spurs, City, Leicester and even Utd are all on good form now and improving, we could well finish outside the top 4. However, if we do turn it around, the league title could well be ours! That's why I think the next 2/3 games are make or break time!


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  • #7987
    greendom
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Buy a player who starts when we have injuries and at least makes the bench when we don't. What was the point in signing Elneny when he can't make the bench even with Wilshere and Rosicky out?

    thought he picked up a knock ?


  • #7988
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    greendom wrote: »
    thought he picked up a knock ?

    Didn't see it mentioned anywhere. Highly plausible though :p


  • #7989
    emmetlego
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    greendom wrote: »
    thought he picked up a knock ?

    According to physioroom we only have 3 injuries, Rosicky, Wilshere and Santi.


  • #7990
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    emmetlego wrote: »
    According to physioroom we only have 3 injuries, Rosicky, Wilshere and Santi.

    So if Eleney isn't at least on the bench on Sunday it would be completely baffling.


  • #7991
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Attitudes like that don't lead to winning stuff.

    Selective quoting there.

    Being top and getting the odd draw when you're unlucky is exactly what leads to titles.

    Not scoring for 3 games is what doesn't.


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  • #7992
    EuropeanSon
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    domrush wrote: »
    Should be making two big signings every Summer in my opinion, like very other big club with ambitions does.

    Working well for Utd and Pool lately that one, isn't it?

    We should be doing what suits us, not following stupid rules like the above. It did Chelsea no good last summer either.

    Not saying I wouldn't appreciate improvement to the squad, but if it were as simple as the above we wouldn't need a manager.


  • #7993
    pudzey101
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    Great to see coquelin straight back in with a hard tackle :):)


  • #7994
    brianregan09
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    Lads theres 14 games left , yes alot of tough games ...but so does everyone else ...Has anyone been watching this season no game is predictable we just as good a chance at the moment


  • #7995
    tayto lover
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    brianregan09 wrote: »
    Lads theres 14 games left , yes alot of tough games ...but so does everyone else ...Has anyone been watching this season no game is predictable we just as good a chance at the moment

    I think they've been watching many other seasons which seems to be their point.


  • #7996
    JustTheOne
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    brianregan09 wrote: »
    Lads theres 14 games left , yes alot of tough games ...but so does everyone else ...Has anyone been watching this season no game is predictable we just as good a chance at the moment

    Groundhog day.


  • #7997
    Gringo180
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    domrush wrote: »
    Should be making two big signings every Summer in my opinion, like very other big club with ambitions does.

    I agree fully with this. With no real competition coming in for places some players start becoming complacent because they know there place isnt under any real threat.


    Totally off the point but was on facebook earlier on and one of those memories popped up on me page. This time 2 seasons ago we were sitting on 55 points after 24 games. Thats a full 10 points more than were we stand today. :pac:


  • #7998
    Gringo180
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    greendom wrote: »
    So if Eleney isn't at least on the bench on Sunday it would be completely baffling.

    Lets be honest. This isnt a player we have signed from a top league for big money. He has come from Switzerland with a price tag of just 7 million pounds. Thats a pittance in todays market. He was bought as more of a squad player imo and if he improves its a bonus.


  • #7999
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Lets be honest. This isnt a player we have signed from a top league for big money. He has come from Switzerland with a price tag of just 7 million pounds. Thats a pittance in todays market. He was bought as more of a squad player imo and if he improves its a bonus.

    Still cost a lot more than Flamini :pac:


  • #8000
    FixitFelix
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    The price for Higuain was upped by 5m at the last minute, which is why Arsenal walked away. As for Suarez even if we offered 70m Liverpool would never have sold to us


  • #8001
    JustTheOne
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    I hate to keep saying it but how long has Wenger had to build a title winning team?

    Then look at spurs and Leicester ahead of us.


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  • #8002
    tayto lover
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Lets be honest. This isnt a player we have signed from a top league for big money. He has come from Switzerland with a price tag of just 7 million pounds. Thats a pittance in todays market. He was bought as more of a squad player imo and if he improves its a bonus.

    The thing is we should be buying better than we already have. That improves the team.
    The time for buying "maybe great in time" players or "fill-in" players is gone if we have ambitions to win the EPL.


  • #8003
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    JustTheOne wrote: »
    I hate to keep saying it but how long has Wenger had to build a title winning team?

    Then look at spurs and Leicester ahead of us.

    3 years I guess, since financial restraints were removed a bit.

    Spurs have blown all that Bale money, and are playing well at the moment. Considering how amazing they are, and how rubbish we are, it's amazing we're on the same points.

    Fair play to Leicester, great story. They're one of the many reasons people watch football.


  • #8004
    Gringo180
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    The thing is we should be buying better than we already have. That improves the team.
    The time for buying "maybe great in time" players or "fill-in" players is gone if we have ambitions to win the EPL.

    Exactly the point I am trying to make. There is far too many players too comfortable with there position in the starting XI. Players are becoming too complacent and inconsistent.


  • #8005
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Exactly the point I am trying to make. There is far too many players too comfortable with there position in the starting XI. Players are becoming too complacent and inconsistent.

    I wouldn't agree with that entirely. How many people are comfortable, complacent, and inconsistent?

    Our only nailed on starters have been Kos, Monreal, Bellerin, Ozil, Giroud and maybe Ramsey. I can see how a few of them haven't been playing well, but I doubt that's because they think their place isn't under threat.

    Looking from another angle, look at the players trying to break into the starting line up, such as Walcott and the Ox. They should be the complete opposite, super motivated to earn their spot...and look what happens.


  • #8006
    FixitFelix
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    JustTheOne wrote:
    Then look at spurs and Leicester ahead of us.

    JustTheOne wrote:
    I hate to keep saying it but how long has Wenger had to build a title winning team?


    They're not title winning teams yet so can't really use those 2 to make your point


  • #8007
    Gringo180
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    Basil3 wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree with that entirely. How many people are comfortable, complacent, and inconsistent?

    Our only nailed on starters have been Kos, Monreal, Bellerin, Ozil, Giroud and maybe Ramsey. I can see how a few of them haven't been playing well, but I doubt that's because they think their place isn't under threat.

    Looking from another angle, look at the players trying to break into the starting line up, such as Walcott and the Ox. They should be the complete opposite, super motivated to earn their spot...and look what happens.

    Ramsey has been very average this season imo, along with Mertesacker. Mertesacker especially with his positioning and lack of pace gets us into huge trouble at the back, most notably against Chelsea when he got the wrong side of Costa and was sent off for a rash tackle. If that happened at the back with the likes of Adams, Keown, Campbell there would be an onfield enquiry into how he was caught out like that.


  • #8008
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Ramsey has been very average this season imo, along with Mertesacker. Mertesacker especially with his positioning and lack of pace gets us into huge trouble at the back, most notably against Chelsea when he got the wrong side of Costa and was sent off for a rash tackle. If that happened at the back with the likes of Adams, Keown, Campbell there would be an onfield enquiry into how he was caught out like that.

    Would definitely agree they're two of the most popular scapegoats.

    I can actually remember quite a few more errors from Kos than Mert recently. The Chelsea incident was idiotic, though.


  • #8009
    JustTheOne
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    FixitFelix wrote: »
    They're not title winning teams yet so can't really use those 2 to make your point

    Are we?

    They currently have a better chance than us.


  • #8010
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    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Are we?

    They currently have a better chance than us.

    The number crunchers disagree, even the spurs supporting ones.

    @MC_of_A: Current (average) projected EPL table. Not much change today. pic.twitter.com/xOuJUd3uY7

    https://twitter.com/MC_of_A/status/695052873714003968


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  • #8011
    JustTheOne
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    Basil3 wrote: »
    The number crunchers disagree, even the spurs supporting ones.

    @MC_of_A: Current (average) projected EPL table. Not much change today. pic.twitter.com/xOuJUd3uY7

    https://twitter.com/MC_of_A/status/695052873714003968

    It doesn't matter.

    The table doesn't lie.

    We are 4th and behind spurs and Leicester for a reason.


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