'Pro-rape' meet-up to be held in Naas. Mod warning in op.

valoren · 03-02-2016 03:48PM

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Wash rinse repeat the offensive content to generate more income.

arayess · 03-02-2016 04:24PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I read the article that everyone keeps referring to. The suggestion to legalise rape does not seem to be a genuine belief but more tongue in cheek. It's more a dig at the status quo where the male is always assumed to be the one in the wrong and the woman is always the damsel. I think this group is more caveman than pro-rape.

i agree
that article aside - I had a quick look at the "about" sector of "return of the kings"
It wasn't that bad , some stuff was ok , some I didn't agree with but I saw nothing to warrant the "pro rape" hysteria. slightly off the range but nothing goebbels-esque.

I am amused at this hysteria especially comments on social media from people who clearly read a headline that a guy was "pro-rape"

eviltwin · 03-02-2016 04:26PM

Why Naas of all places? I can't see anyone other than the curious turning up. I don't see anything on his site advocating rape, using obvious click bait in media headlines that aren't true just feeds this guy's already massive victim complex.

Azalea · 03-02-2016 04:29PM

I am amused at the downplaying of Return of Kings.

cowboyBuilder · 03-02-2016 04:38PM

I'm thinking it's not for real, some elaborate trolling site.

Hammer89 · 03-02-2016 04:40PM

maudgonner wrote: »

Kilcock is only over the road...

That's where the lesbians meet.

osarusan · 03-02-2016 04:41PM

arayess wrote: »

I am amused at this hysteria especially comments on social media from people who clearly read a headline that a guy was "pro-rape"

He is pro-rape. Literally, he wants it legalised in certain cases, and here is the 'reasoning':

make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds.

The exception for public rape is aimed at those seedy and deranged men who randomly select their rape victims on alleys and jogging trails, but not as a mechanism to prevent those rapes, since the verdict is still out if punishment stops a committed criminal mind, but to have a way to keep them off the streets. For all other rapes, however, especially if done in a dwelling or on private property, any and all rape that happens should be completely legal.

If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone.

If rape becomes legal, a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can’t resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of—she’ll scream, yell, or kick at his attempt while bystanders are still around. If rape becomes legal, she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn’t want to sleep with.

After several months of advertising this law throughout the land, rape would be virtually eliminated on the first day it is applied.

Without daddy government to protect her, a girl would absolutely not enter a private room with a man she doesn’t know or trust unless she is absolutely sure she is ready to sleep with him. Consent is now achieved when she passes underneath the room’s door frame, because she knows that that man can legally do anything he wants to her when it comes to sex.

Bad encounters are sure to occur, but these can be learning experiences for the poorly trained woman so she can better identify in the future the type of good man who will treat her like the delicate flower that she believes she is. After only one such sour experience, she will actually want to get fully acquainted with a man for longer than two hours—perhaps even demanding to meet his parents—instead of letting a beer chug prevent her from making the correct decisions to protect her body.

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/

Easy to believe that he doesn't believe much of what he says, but I'd be worried about the deluded souls who he's peddling it to.

etoughguy · 03-02-2016 04:43PM

What a fckutard hillbilly idiot, maybe he should get a taste of his own medicine in someones house some night, see if that changes his mind

Wibbs · 03-02-2016 04:46PM

arayess wrote: »

I am amused at this hysteria especially comments on social media from people who clearly read a headline that a guy was "pro-rape"

He knows how to cause outrage in some and knows how to milk it. I'd give him some kudos for that, but it's not that hard. Both sides of this imported from the US nonsense turf war are extremely quick to kick off and rev each other up and neither side have the self awareness to see this. The Roosh guys and their kind laugh at those that are "triggered" by what they see as the "patriarchy", but they themselves are just as easily "triggered" by what they see as the "matriarchy". Both are also extremely clannish and both keep within remarkably tight constraints on what is seen as "acceptable". There's an actual satire to be written on the phenomenon.

On the local level I don't see Irish guys being too into all this. As a very general rule we tend to be easy going, pretty meh can't be arsed kinda people almost to a fault. Stereotype it may be, but the fact it's not being held in a pub is a nail in the coffin right there. Hell, look at the centenary of the 1916 rising and look back at how many Dublin pubs ended up riddled with bullet holes... Doesn't know his market very well.

If anything happens at all it will be far more protestors showing up. With placards and angst and selfies. Even then if there are more than five I'll be gobsmacked.

eviltwin wrote:

Why Naas of all places

I'd say the simple answer is that one of his Irish members is from there and suggested it. Like I say we're meh can't be arsed, so he wasn't going to hump up to Dublin.

Azalea wrote:

I am amused at the downplaying of Return of Kings.

Why? Eejit says clickbait nonsense on the interwebs, others flip out(many of whom are also peddling clickbait nonsense), he has a "following" of a couple of thousand worldwide tops, an actual we'll show up and support you following of maybe a couple of hundred and you think the sky is falling in and this is a major threat to Irish society? Seriously?

Custardpi · 03-02-2016 04:50PM

osarusan wrote: »

He is pro-rape. Literally, he wants it legalised in certain cases, and here is the 'reasoning':

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/

Tbh, that strikes me as being so ludicrously over the top & insane that I'd be skeptical whether anyone with their faculties intact would seriously call for such a change in the law. It reads to me more as a form of thought experiment - "imagine how things would change if X was the case rather than Y" or perhaps just a wind up/trolling exercise. Who knows though, maybe he's in earnest, like this pro-cannibalism advocate.

osarusan · 03-02-2016 04:53PM

Custardpi wrote: »

Tbh, that strikes me as being so ludicrously over the top & insane that I'd be skeptical whether anyone with their faculties intact would seriously call for such a change in the law. It reads to me more as a form of thought experiment - "imagine how things would change if X was the case rather than Y" or perhaps just a wind up/trolling exercise. Who knows though, maybe he's in earnest, like this pro-cannibalism advocate.

I edited into my post, so you might have missed it, but this is what I said: Easy to believe that he doesn't believe much of what he says, but I'd be worried about the deluded souls who he's peddling it to.

No matter how utterly ludicrous something might be, you can easily imagine some deluded losers out there who cling to it as truth.

That said, there's every chance that these meetups will not go ahead and there was never any intention that they ever actually go ahead.

Nodin · 03-02-2016 04:53PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Well, judging from the threads regarding Sweden & Cologne etc, it will probably be well attended.

Why?

eviltwin · 03-02-2016 04:55PM

I'm not unduly worried about this guy. If he was actually campaigning to make rape legal then maybe but he's not. From what I can see it's just talk appealing to a certain type of knuckle dragger. He's not worth wasting oxygen over.

Wibbs · 03-02-2016 04:59PM

osarusan wrote: »

He is pro-rape. Literally, he wants it legalised in certain cases, and here is the 'reasoning':

Yes and no. He's more than a bit of an oddball with more than grudge about women that did done him bad(he shoulda taken up playing the blues or somesuch) and thinks the notion that men have all the responsibility where drunken sex is concerned is wrong headed(I have some issues with it myself*) and in full clickbait mode and in a really bad effort to write in a "satirical" way to make his "point" out comes that nonsense. He clearly has but a passing acquaintance with satire and what point he had was drowned by his own clumsy keystrokes and the support of his narrowly corralled echo chamber and that's what we read there.

Or if you understandably want to avoid my ramblings, what ET wrote.

eviltwin wrote:

I'm not unduly worried about this guy. If he was actually campaigning to make rape legal then maybe but he's not. From what I can see it's just talk appealing to a certain type of knuckle dragger. He's not worth wasting oxygen over.

*it does seem that in case where both the man and woman are drunk, the man has the responsibility to seek consent and that's game ball, but he also takes responsibility for the woman's actions. He magically retains agency when drunk, she magically loses hers. It's all very Victorian This kind of thinking is particularly evident in again, quelle fcukin surprise, American ivory tower college campuses. In reality any actual issues are vanishingly rare to nonexistent, but when there's any doubt involved the man is in a bind. This fear is easy to fan in men who've only seen a tit on their laptop screen and sections of the PUA types fan that paranoia with gusto. I thought I'd better explain in case I got accused of being "pro rape".

Little CuChulainn · 03-02-2016 05:11PM

osarusan wrote: »

He is pro-rape. Literally, he wants it legalised in certain cases, and here is the 'reasoning':

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/

Easy to believe that he doesn't believe much of what he says, but I'd be worried about the deluded souls who he's peddling it to.

I disagree. I think he does believe what he says. I don't think he was genuinely suggesting rape should be legal, he was suggesting it as an extreme way to shift responsability from men to women when it comes to rape. Their main goal seems to be the denial of the existence of rape culture and shift of some degree of responsibility to victims when it comes people under the influence or people who put themselves in dangerous situations.

osarusan · 03-02-2016 05:18PM

Who know how much of it he believes.

I'd be more inclined to think that he's following in the time-honoured tradition of manipulating gullible misfits, loners and losers into believing that all their woes are somebody else's fault, and all for his own personal benefit

PopePalpatine · 03-02-2016 05:23PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I disagree. I think he does believe what he says. I don't think he was genuinely suggesting rape should be legal, he was suggesting it as an extreme way to shift responsability from men to women when it comes to rape. Their main goal seems to be the denial of the existence of rape culture and shift of some degree of responsibility to victims when it comes people under the influence or people who put themselves in dangerous situations.

I'm on campus at the moment, so I don't want this showing up on my search history, but back in December an episode of Reggie Yates's "Extreme UK" focused on MRAs/redpillers, and Roosh was featured. Towards the end, Reggie read an extract from one of Roosh's "Bang" books, where Roosh pretty much boasted about having sex with a woman while she was saying, "No, Roosh, no!" I wouldn't put it beneath him to actually believe in what he was writing in that "legalise rape on private property" essay.

KomradeBishop · 03-02-2016 05:29PM

Best response to this stuff, is just starvation of attention really - if they want to organize a circlejerk/cry in the middle of nowhere, who cares really? - the whole purpose of it seems less aimed at meeting up, more about getting attention.

From the meet page:

To identify your fellow tribesmen, ask the following question to a man you suspect is there for the meetup: “Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” If you are asked this question, answer in the affirmative: “Yes, it’s right here.”

Can imagine the confusion of anyone genuinely looking for a petshop on the day :pac:

Custardpi · 03-02-2016 05:37PM

True, the hysterical Chicken Licken response to what is almost certainly a trolling exercise (albeit a pretty financially lucrative one by the sounds of things given the extra attention he's received from it) is completely counter productive & indeed makes those leading the charge sound like the kind of idiots who lose their rag over Onion articles.

Ken. · 03-02-2016 05:41PM

Mod- No matter how abhorrent you may find the subject or the organiser, advocating violence against anyone is not on. Please try to keep it civil. Thank you.

The Hill Billy · 03-02-2016 05:56PM

etoughguy wrote: »

What a fckutard hillbilly idiot, maybe he should get a taste of his own medicine in someones house some night, see if that changes his mind

I beg your pardon?

RobertKK · 03-02-2016 06:02PM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

Best response to this stuff, is just starvation of attention really - if they want to organize a circlejerk/cry in the middle of nowhere, who cares really? - the whole purpose of it seems less aimed at meeting up, more about getting attention.

From the meet page:
To identify your fellow tribesmen, ask the following question to a man you suspect is there for the meetup: “Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” If you are asked this question, answer in the affirmative: “Yes, it’s right here.”
Can imagine the confusion of anyone genuinely looking for a petshop on the day :pac:

The animals into bestiality too...

beertons · 03-02-2016 06:02PM

Cutbush is only a few miles out. Blacktrench too.

tritium · 03-02-2016 06:04PM

TBH it all looks like an attempt to get attention, and overall mainstream media have done a pretty decent job of not giving him any.

I just wish they'd apply the same standard of 'ignore till they go away' to a number of other prominent 'activists' who seem to have an unfettered soundbox for their nonsense.

etoughguy · 03-02-2016 06:08PM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

I beg your pardon?

You want me to repeat what I said?
Lest you construe I am advocating violence against this low life I am inferring if such a heinous crime ever happened to him I'm sure his outlook on said topic would change

eviltwin · 03-02-2016 06:30PM

I doubt any meeting is planned. Instead they will moan about how they cancelled the event because of the liberal media, feminism, manginas etc etc making themselves look even more unfairly treated. It will be interesting to see if anyone actually shows up on the day.

Stheno · 03-02-2016 06:33PM

etoughguy wrote: »

You want me to repeat what I said?
Lest you construe I am advocating violence against this low life I am inferring if such a heinous crime ever happened to him I'm sure his outlook on said topic would change

I think it was more you calling the Roosh guy a hill billy?:P

Wibbs · 03-02-2016 06:50PM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

I beg your pardon?

I never promised you a rose garden… altogether now! *slinks away in shame*

etoughguy · 03-02-2016 06:52PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think it was more you calling the Roosh guy a hill billy?:P

Suddenly the penny drops!!
Im a langer after that!

Mesrine65 · 03-02-2016 06:54PM

etoughguy wrote: »

What a fckutard hillbilly idiot, maybe he should get a taste of his own medicine in someones house some night, see if that changes his mind

Leave the hillbilly's alone, they be good peoples :P

'Pro-rape' meet-up to be held in Naas. Mod warning in op.

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