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Best Enigma 2 boxes?

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  • #332
    GY A1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭GY A1


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Do not buy that receiver unless you are a masochist and like tearing your hair out .

    Hardware wise it was great but the software support for it was a disaster.
    You have been warned.

    +1
    never heard of that receievr and support for software and images is whats important,
    the edison os mini mentioned has good specs and will have decent support backing, very reasonable also for a twin tuner,
    as mentioned its very similar to the lx2


  • #333
    irishgeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Zardoz wrote: »
    The issue is that the sd picture is poor on Mips receivers .

    Its basically to do with the Broadcom chipset in the Xtrend and other Mips based receivers .
    Its simply not designed for rendering good graphics .

    SH4 cpu receivers like the Alien 2 have an Sh4 cpu which is a different architecture which includes a high class floating point math unit and high speed bus which is the key components used for drawing graphics.
    SD picture quality is noticeably better on a larger set and HD is marginally better too.

    Its a pity really ,the Linux Mips receivers have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years and they are really very powerful receivers but their achilles heel is still picture quality ,primarily sd ,its noticeably inferior to most non Linux receivers .

    So despite I owning a Technomate Nano 3T and other 1.3ghz based receivers the Alien 1 and 2 are still my main receivers as I cant accept the SD picture on the Mips receivers .

    There was me thinking sky were butchering the SD signal.


  • #334
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    irishgeo wrote: »
    There was me thinking sky were butchering the SD signal.

    Well that's a factor too .

    Sky have indeed reduced the sd channels picture quality over the years.
    Alot of their channels that were broadcast in 704 x 576i resolution are now broadcast in 544 x 576i .

    Video bitrates have also dropped and typically now lie in the 2-3Mbps range.
    Compare this with the 6Mbps-8Mbps of commercial DVD.

    Its a cost cutting mechanism and also a ruse to get people to upgrade to HD ,for 15 euro extra .

    HD has also been downgraded over the years too and no doubt will be downgraded even further once Ultra HD starts its roll out on tv.
    Indeed even BT Sports have reduced the quality of their HD broadcasts already to make Ultra HD look better.

    Like for like though the same sd channel displayed on an Sh4 based receiver will have more detail than a Mips based receiver.


  • #335
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Do not buy that receiver unless you are a masochist and like tearing your hair out .

    Hardware wise it was great but the software support for it was a disaster.
    You have been warned.

    thanks for the warning. I will still well away...


  • #336
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    lertsnim wrote: »
    If one was to choose between an Xtrend ET10000 and a Mut@nt HD2400 what would be the wise bet?
    I'm wondering this too, and have it down to both of these.

    Kind of swayed towards the Xtrend, simply because it can accommodate a proper size HDD, unlike the Mutant.

    I also notice the Xtrend seems to have 2 Ethernet ports, not sure why that is.


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  • #337
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    lertsnim wrote: »
    If one was to choose between an Xtrend ET10000 and a Mut@nt HD2400 what would be the wise bet?
    I'm wondering this too, and have it down to both of these.

    Kind of swayed towards the Xtrend, simply because it can accommodate a proper size HDD, unlike the Mutant.

    I also notice the Xtrend seems to have 2 Ethernet ports, not sure why that is.


  • #338
    BobbyT28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭BobbyT28


    byte wrote: »
    I'm wondering this too, and have it down to both of these.

    Kind of swayed towards the Xtrend, simply because it can accommodate a proper size HDD, unlike the Mutant.

    I also notice the Xtrend seems to have 2 Ethernet ports, not sure why that is.


    I couldn't be happier with the Xtrend ET8000. Brilliant sat box. I am coming from a AA" so the SD is not as good but I can get over that very easily. The HD you wouldn't notice the difference IMO.

    Highly recommend them, have it over 2 months now and have never had 1 issue and I mean 1 issue. Unlike the AA2 which had me pulling my hair out!!

    BobbyT28


  • #339
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Well, I've just ordered the Xtrend ET10000 with 2x S2 and 1x T2 tuners from hm-sat.de

    Hopefully will have it by next weekend.

    I wonder if it's possible to copy settings over from my Vu+Duo to the new Xtrend? Motor settings, etc. Plugins I'm not worried about.


  • #340
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Well, I've just ordered the Xtrend ET10000 with 2x S2 and 1x T2 tuners from hm-sat.de

    Hopefully will have it by next weekend.

    I wonder if it's possible to copy settings over from my Vu+Duo to the new Xtrend? Motor settings, etc. Plugins I'm not worried about.


  • #341
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    byte wrote: »
    Well, I've just ordered the Xtrend ET10000 with 2x S2 and 1x T2 tuners from hm-sat.de

    Hopefully will have it by next weekend.

    I wonder if it's possible to copy settings over from my Vu+Duo to the new Xtrend? Motor settings, etc. Plugins I'm not worried about.

    You can jot down the USALS setting or snapshot it.

    Like channel lists and favourites ? You can use dreambox edit and get it to read your channel lists etc from the VU. You can the flash the save channel list files on PC/laptop back to your new box using dreambox edit. They are only xml files and bouquets.


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  • #342
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    next minor hurdle is the twin lan port:eek::D


  • #343
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    greasepalm wrote: »
    next minor hurdle is the twin lan port:eek::D
    I dunno why it has two LAN ports! One is 10/00, the other 10/100/1000.

    Do you foresee this being a problem?


  • #344
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    STB. wrote: »
    You can jot down the USALS setting or snapshot it.

    Like channel lists and favourites ? You can use dreambox edit and get it to read your channel lists etc from the VU. You can the flash the save channel list files on PC/laptop back to your new box using dreambox edit. They are only xml files and bouquets.

    Indeed, I can. I do wonder though, do I need to put the motor to 0 before changing STB, or will the new box know what location the motor is currently at?

    I'll have Tuner1 on fixed 28.2E, and Tuner2 on the motorised dish, for the few birds it still sees...

    I do aim to take the HDD out of my Vu and keep all the recorded stuff to watch on the Xtrend. I expect the Xtrend should address it fine, as I aim to continue using OpenVix.


  • #345
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    byte wrote: »
    Indeed, I can. I do wonder though, do I need to put the motor to 0 before changing STB, or will the new box know what location the motor is currently at?

    I'll have Tuner1 on fixed 28.2E, and Tuner2 on the motorised dish, for the few birds it still sees...

    I do aim to take the HDD out of my Vu and keep all the recorded stuff to watch on the Xtrend. I expect the Xtrend should address it fine, as I aim to continue using OpenVix.

    In my experience byte there is no need to set the tuner back to zero if all satellites are set to USALS on the dedicated tuner module (1 or 2). You already have it on its arc so say you disconnect the satellite on the Vu+ at 9E, it will stay there. When you reconnect your new box you should set that dedicated motor tuner to USALS all satellites for that tuner module (with the east and West coordinates taken from your Vu+) and then go and pick 9E rather than any other satellite.
    byte wrote: »
    I dunno why it has two LAN ports! One is 10/00, the other 10/100/1000.

    Do you foresee this being a problem?

    One is a gigabit ethernet vlan. The other is 10/100 lan.


  • #346
    dkane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭dkane


    Currently have a AA2+ running Hyperion 4.5.
    I'm happy enough except for the occasional slowness and fairly useless recording and video playback.

    I recently setup a Zgemma H.S2 for a friend. Very impressed with the speed and Kiddac's lovely Slyk HD v3 skin.

    I'm tempted to replace my AA2+ with the H.S2 and just wondering if others think this is a wise move?
    Open to suggestions for other boxes too.
    2x DVB-S2 is a must. DVB-T2/C tuner is a plus. Must be more responsive than the AA2+ and have an active community of developers working on good e2 images and/or skins. Willing to pay up to €200.


  • #347
    dkane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭dkane


    Currently have a AA2+ running Hyperion 4.5.
    I'm happy enough except for the occasional slowness and fairly useless recording and video playback.

    I recently setup a Zgemma H.S2 for a friend. Very impressed with the speed and Kiddac's lovely Slyk HD v3 skin.

    I'm tempted to replace my AA2+ with the H.S2 and just wondering if others think this is a wise move?
    Open to suggestions for other boxes too.
    2x DVB-S2 is a must. DVB-T2/C tuner is a plus. Must be more responsive than the AA2+ and have an active community of developers working on good e2 images and/or skins. Willing to pay up to €200.


  • #348
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    dkane wrote: »
    Currently have a AA2+ running Hyperion 4.5.
    I'm happy enough except for the occasional slowness and fairly useless recording and video playback.

    I recently setup a Zgemma H.S2 for a friend. Very impressed with the speed and Kiddac's lovely Slyk HD v3 skin.

    I'm tempted to replace my AA2+ with the H.S2 and just wondering if others think this is a wise move?
    Open to suggestions for other boxes too.
    2x DVB-S2 is a must. DVB-T2/C tuner is a plus. Must be more responsive than the AA2+ and have an active community of developers working on good e2 images and/or skins. Willing to pay up to €200.

    This is currently the best value box around .
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98495312&postcount=323

    I'd recommend it over the Zgemma as its an oem product instead of a cheaper Chinese version so you have a better warranty.
    Its basically the same spec,same cpu and amount of memory but the Edision has wifi and bluetooth built in .
    You can add a cheap usb tuner for Saorview too.


  • #349
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    one thing with zgemma if they use the patched open vix firmware is not updatable so box is always on older image.


  • #350
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,179 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    STB. wrote: »
    One is a gigabit ethernet vlan. The other is 10/100 lan.
    Yeah, I know.

    Just greasepalm mentioning a "hurdle" with them made me wonder if there'd be an issue with which one the OS will address, for example...

    Not sure why anyone would have use for the 10/100 when there's a superior gigiabit port there :confused:


  • #351
    Glen_Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    Lads is it best to buy a box with an internal hard drive or are boxes with external hard drives just as good?

    What's the difference if any?


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  • #352
    stanley1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    it's a lot tidier with hard drive in box, saves on extra enclosures, power supply etc.


  • #353
    Glen_Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    Nearly sure I posted this already, maybe I'm loosing the plot

    Cheers mate.

    I currently have a Wetek Play but its driving me nuts as I am having audio sync issues so I think it may be the box although others on here are telling me they dont have such issues. I have never had a sta box before so I nothing to compare it to..

    I am considering just buying a tried and tested Enigma 2 box like the Xtrend 8000 for €270 including hard drive and USB drive or the cheaper option Edison OS Mini for €140 (no hard drive drive or USB)

    Would I be better off going with the Xtrend 8000?


  • #354
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    the wetek play is also a box supported by wos and openvix,might it be a faulty image on box as like sat and cable boxes some images are buggy with issues,do you have to press audio button on remote and change stream as i do on sat boxes.


  • #355
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    Nearly sure I posted this already, maybe I'm loosing the plot

    Cheers mate.

    I currently have a Wetek Play but its driving me nuts as I am having audio sync issues so I think it may be the box although others on here are telling me they dont have such issues. I have never had a sta box before so I nothing to compare it to..

    Before you go off needlessly go off buying another box, re-image the Wetek. Here is openATV software which is an Enigma2 image. Download one of the latest files and unzip it to the root of a USB device. Stick USB device in Wetek and upgrade on boot.

    http://images.mynonpublic.com/openatv/current/index.php?open=wetekplay


  • #356
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    aye good point if in doubt reflash it and dont use settings restore.








    .............................................................................................

    as to the issue with the xtrend 10000 and twin lan with one lan cable inserted,i found i had to network test to see if i could connect to internet, i chose wrongly and box asks if to use this port -ok and box then connects to internet.took me a while to know what to do to get under the hurdle.


  • #357
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    aye good point if in doubt reflash it and dont use settings restore.








    .............................................................................................

    as to the issue with the xtrend 10000 and twin lan with one lan cable inserted,i found i had to network test to see if i could connect to internet, i chose wrongly and box asks if to use this port -ok and box then connects to internet.took me a while to know what to do to get under the hurdle.


  • #358
    BobbyT28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭BobbyT28


    dkane wrote: »
    Currently have a AA2+ running Hyperion 4.5.
    I'm happy enough except for the occasional slowness and fairly useless recording and video playback.

    I recently setup a Zgemma H.S2 for a friend. Very impressed with the speed and Kiddac's lovely Slyk HD v3 skin.

    I'm tempted to replace my AA2+ with the H.S2 and just wondering if others think this is a wise move?
    Open to suggestions for other boxes too.
    2x DVB-S2 is a must. DVB-T2/C tuner is a plus. Must be more responsive than the AA2+ and have an active community of developers working on good e2 images and/or skins. Willing to pay up to €200.

    Can't recommend the Xtrend ET8000 enough. Coming fromt the AA2+, performance is like night and day. Unreal box. SD is slightly poorer than the AA2 but HD is the same IMO.

    Set up the Xpeed LX2 for a mate and was also impressed with this, but the ET8000 would be better.

    BobbyT28


  • #359
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I have a Edision Os mini to set up for a mate,bought it based on the info on this thread.Cheers


    What image would you guys recommend ?


  • #360
    Glen_Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    yabadabado wrote:
    I have a Edision Os mini to set up for a mate,bought it based on the info on this thread.Cheers

    yabadabado wrote:
    What image would you guys recommend ?


    From what I've read openvix is one of the best plus they officially support the box you have :)

    Check out world of satellite


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  • #361
    stanley1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    openvix, or my own preference openatv.


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