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Galway GAA discussion thread

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  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a post in weeks and both teams unbeaten so far.

    I guess the bigger news was Powers retirement, a year or two earlier than anticipated but that's another superstar gone.

    People might try to say they won it without him last year and that's true to an extent but he'd have played if he was available and it's another unproven player that has to come in.

    Apart from that midfielder who was minor last year they haven't anything astounding to replace the great players that are leaving in spades.

    Be nice if at least one more left though we can probably bank of Jackie and Larkin going in the next two years.

    Big plus for them now though is they have two of the top three players in the country.

    Footballers aren't probably worth talking about until the league settles and we see have any new additions been attained.

    We can forget about challenging though against the top 3/4 unless we come back with a worked on kick out strategy.
    The days of pumping aimless balls are long gone, might get you to a quarter but you wont beat the likes of Dublin using traditional midfielders(they need to lads who can interchange into either forwards or defence if needs be to maximise your tools from open play ala MDMC) and pumping balls down the pitch.


  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a post in weeks and both teams unbeaten so far.

    I guess the bigger news was Powers retirement, a year or two earlier than anticipated but that's another superstar gone.

    People might try to say they won it without him last year and that's true to an extent but he'd have played if he was available and it's another unproven player that has to come in.

    Apart from that midfielder who was minor last year they haven't anything astounding to replace the great players that are leaving in spades.

    Be nice if at least one more left though we can probably bank of Jackie and Larkin going in the next two years.

    Big plus for them now though is they have two of the top three players in the country.

    Footballers aren't probably worth talking about until the league settles and we see have any new additions been attained.

    We can forget about challenging though against the top 3/4 unless we come back with a worked on kick out strategy.
    The days of pumping aimless balls are long gone, might get you to a quarter but you wont beat the likes of Dublin using traditional midfielders(they need to lads who can interchange into either forwards or defence if needs be to maximise your tools from open play ala MDMC) and pumping balls down the pitch.

    Kilkenny undoubtedly haven't the depth of other years but we've seen over the last few years that they nearly always find solutions to problem positions. Their first 17 or 18 are still formidable and they are always bringing in a couple of players gradually to the squad who end up making a name for themselves when not expected.

    We need to see how we can improve starting with last year's 2nd half horror show. The gap between Kilkenny and Galway has remained comfortably enough in Kilkenny's favour the last few years. 2013 was Kilkenny's only off year during which we completely caved in.

    I'm encouraged to see a few new names get a run and make a name for themselves. We need to strengthen again if we hope to push on. With the likes of Collins, Smith, Tannian, Donnellan and them lads pushing on we need new players pushing through. Paul Hoban is a good player who probably should have got in before this year.

    Paul Claffey has done well in the games to date, we need Padraig Brehony to start delivering at senior level, he has the talent if the steeliness and belief can be put into him. Good to see Niall Burke back in the fold with Johnny Glynn not back from his travels yet afaik. Eanna Burke has done well at club level the last couple of years and has started the year well.

    Sunday is the first real outing we've got. Don't see Dublin doing anything later in the year but Parnell Park is always a difficult venue to win.

    I honestly don't see much hope for the footballers. The promise that eventually started to show at the end of Alan Mulholland's reign has amounted to little. With Gary Sice gone and Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane gone abroad I don't really see much hope for us. David Wynne impressed me the opening day against Sligo. The other additions to the panel are good footballers but don't see them giving the squad the boost it needs. Given the last of senior players/leadership in the squad we need a few good batches of underage teams coming together and the talent just doesn't look to be there at the moment. Allied to that the management team really fails to inspire me from what I've seen of them to date.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Sice is back (thank Christ) but he's injured I think and unlikely to feature in the first two League games. Some major names won't be around for the start of the League through injury. The footballers really are just above an ordinary team that get over-rated due to the history of the county. Capable of beating most teams (couldn't say that 3 years back this time of year) but missing match-winners you need to mount a challenge against even the Monaghan's and Donegal's of this world.

    Hurlers hopefully are laying down the blueprint for a promising half-back line. Tan on a bad day can cost us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Francesco10


    Need a big improvement next week for the league but an all right display today.

    Comer and Conroy played well.


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only caught bits of the first half of the football.
    Had to change to Roscommon radio though as good aul Galway Bay decided that Abbeyknockmoy was a more important game to have commentary on that the counties two games... That station wrecks my head in that regard.

    Good to get the win but the score count was poor considering that 2-2 was on the board after a few minutes.

    Hurlers must have imploded as the last score I got was 14 each and saw they lost by 9 and conceded 29 scores in total which is far too much.
    Had a strong team out too which was doubly disappointing.


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  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good win for the footballers. The FBD League isn't a big deal but its a good few years since we won any silverware at senior level so it's a nice confidence boost to win it before the start of the league especially with it being a tight finish. Another defeat today would have been a further dent to a fragile confidence. In the end Galway probably needed it a bit more than Roscommon today who will feel they laid down their marker against Mayo last week.

    The two goals was a huge start and I thought we did quite well for the majority of the first half. We were on top in midfield and the half backs were getting forward well. 2nd half was a different story and in the end I was certain Roscommon would nick it. We created little and squandered the 2 or 3 good chances we did create. To be fair when it went to level pegging we got the next two scores and that hasn't happened often in recent years.

    I'd be a critic of Paul Conroy but today he delivered a good performance, Comer got the two goals which we needed in the end and I thought Gary O'Donnell did well. Some of the new players have done fine. Johnny Heaney is a player that impresses me, David Wynne is doing ok, Brannigan and Enda Tierney had their moments. Kyne did ok with a tough job on Senan Kilbride but longer term I'm not convinced he's the answer.

    Really the ref prevented a decent game breaking out, he blew for a free inside 3 seconds and it went downhill from there, his dishing out of yellow cards was random to say the least.

    Despite some positives there remains far too much inconsistency in this Galway side. There have been umpteen matches under Kevin Walsh where we look a decent side for 20-30 minutes but then completely go out of the game for another 20-30 minute spell. Again no score for I'd say around the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half.

    Laois next week will tell us a lot more. They have hammered us a couple of times in Portlaoise and easily beat us in Tuam last year also. Its an important game with Division 2 is top heavy with Ulster sides. Tyrone aside there is no top team in the division but there are no mugs either every win is likely to be hard earned.

    Bad day for the hurlers but at least we've had a look at a few new players in this competition. We'd have to be a bit behind the others in terms of where we are at preparation wise and that's not a bad thing in my view. In 2013 we tore back into training a few weeks after the All-Ireland and we never got going all year. Cork will be determined to take the first step on the road back against us in the first round of the league but we've still 3 weeks to get a bit more up to speed.

    Congrats to Abbeyknockmoy on their win. No Galway team has ever won the Intermediate club All-Ireland. Bennettsbridge are a strong side with a few players on the fringes of the Kilkenny panel or who have significant underage experience but Abbey won't stand back from them and hopefully they can do the business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭wonder88


    Hope for a good start tomorrow for the footballers, but have to admit not too confident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭T0001


    Surprising win for Galway today away from home and against Laois! We all remember the second hald capitulation in Tuam last year XD Played a really good running game!!

    Tyrone next week at home. A win there puts us in a great position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭T0001


    Surprising win for Galway today away from home and against Laois! We all remember the second hald capitulation in Tuam last year XD Played a really good running game!!

    Tyrone next week at home. A win there puts us in a great position.


  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good win. Job pretty much done by half time and only really gave Laois a sniff of it in the 2nd half for a couple of minutes. Varley and Comer starting the year well in the full forward line. For a team that has struggled to put sufficient scores on the board for a few years now, 3-12 is a positive start to the season. David Wynne has started the new year well at corner back and may be the man to step in for Johnny Duane.

    By all accounts Laois were poor but it's the only away win in Division 2 today and settles a few ghosts from past seasons.

    Tyrone will be a massive step up in intensity next week. I don't expect a win there but it'll give us a better barometer of where we are at.


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  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good win. Job pretty much done by half time and only really gave Laois a sniff of it in the 2nd half for a couple of minutes. Varley and Comer starting the year well in the full forward line. For a team that has struggled to put sufficient scores on the board for a few years now, 3-12 is a positive start to the season. David Wynne has started the new year well at corner back and may be the man to step in for Johnny Duane.

    By all accounts Laois were poor but it's the only away win in Division 2 today and settles a few ghosts from past seasons.

    Tyrone will be a massive step up in intensity next week. I don't expect a win there but it'll give us a better barometer of where we are at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭wonder88


    Excellent start and it must give the team a good deal of confidence for the visit of Tyrone next week. Already looking forward to it and we might see a decent crowd there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Sounded like a fairly comprehensively good showing all round. Wasn't there myself so can only assume Kyne was decent at FB? Wynne certainly was all about the place setting up scores. O'Donnell bombing over an unbelievable point from all accounts too.

    Don't know would I take much from the midfield today because it didn't seem like Laois had anybody bar Kingston in the first 10 minutes have any sort of impressive showing. Is good to hear Conroy was keeping to scoreboard ticking over from long-range.

    Delighted for Varley. I know Comer gets a lot of focus, from his aggressiveness to his lethal goal threat, but Varley was one of the few positives from that Donegal embarrassment. A Cummins-Varley-Comer FF-line would be lively.

    Could be a decent League campaign if they can get some of the injured players back soon but very happy the n00bies came back from Portlaoise with such a good result. Badly need to find consistent players come championship time. Have had too many players go missing at important periods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,560 ✭✭✭✭gammygils


    Wouldn't get too excited after today. OK Job done. But Laois wouldn't be
    in this Division only for Galway. Practically gave them 2 League points last
    year. 2 extremely soft goals. Was at that game. Left it very annoyed!


    But a lot of positives to be taken from todays game


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just noticed the GAA are putting the mighty Leagues games up against the Ireland/Wales game on Sunday.

    Was going to head out but I guess that's that.

    At least I'm lucky that I can follow it on GBFM and not miss too much of the Ireland commentary when GBFM start switching to commentary of the Camogie U14 All Irelands quarters for 50% of the timeslot :D.... God I hate the sports producer at that station.

    Mind boggling.

    Could have went an hour earlier and avoided a clash entirely.


  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A bit disappointing both are clashing. To be fair the GAA have their schedule to stick to and they want to fight their corner as well but a large proportion of people follow a number of sports and the GAA need to be mindful of this in trying to get people in the gate.

    1pm might have been a bit too early for Tyrone even though I'm sure they'll travel on Saturday. Unfortunately this is a regular occurrence which could be avoided if there was a facility with lights capable of holding these matches on Saturday night. The lack of any joined up policy in Galway GAA has resulted in 4 venues none of which are suitable for various reasons. Ballinasloe now has lights which is a credit to themselves but Duggan Park has been allowed fall into a shocking state of disrepair that would require a huge investment to bring it up to the required standard.

    As for the game itself, weather doesn't look too hectic for Sunday. Tyrone are narrow favourites with the bookies. They always take the league very seriously and will want to bounce straight back up. To me they look like they should be targeting an Ulster Championship Title and a strong campaign into the summer months. If we were to win this, promotion may not look as unrealistic as it did a few weeks back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Not a great showing by Galway. Kickouts once again cost us the game and at this stage you have realise how tactically naive the side still is at such a crucial aspect of the game. Can't blame Dolan whatsoever as it's happened for years under a slew of keepers.

    There were some bright spots though. Brannigan was decent, Heaney was one of the flew players who was always looking to make a break, thought the FB-line was decent before the unlucky goal which rocked them. Full-forwards worked their socks off but it just wasn't happening for them. Varley on a drier day under high-ball would've been lethal. Comer wasn't at his best but still made a game of it late into the match. Conroy didn't help matters one bit with his red.

    Walsh was a big positive. Made one of his sub appearance where he burns players badly on the outside.

    It's infuriating that there's no kickout plan, certainly no plan B for when they're too slow for a quick kickout. It seems cliché to keep moaning about it but they haemorrhage scores with these 50/50 hit and hopes.


  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Frustrating defeat for Abbeyknockmoy. 4 points up late on and lose by 3 with the keeper dropping a late high ball in into the net.

    Didn't get to the football, looking at the other sides in the division Derry look the clear 2nd favourites for promotion and the rest seem to be all capable of beating the other. Hopefully Tyrone will run away with the division.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭wonder88


    I suppose the footballers are not in too bad a position going into the break. Looking forward to the hurling game on Sunday and hopefully the weather will have improved by then. I recall a game against Cork in Pearse Stadium, 2 year ago I think, which was part of a double header and it was freezing. We are so used to having a Galway team in the club finals on St Patrick's day that the defeat of Sarsfield was unexpected for many. Still it is a good day out up in Dublin, and hopefully I can get there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Decent showing today. Lots of positives. Weren't as clinical as you'd like against a poor Cork showing but it's early in the League.

    Thought Lally was super at CHB in addition to Hoban at corner back. Two positions we need depth in.

    Glennon had his best outing in a senior shirt so far. Grew into the game after a slow start and made a nuisance of himself for Cork backs. Niall Burke in the Glynn role worked out.

    David Burke and Canning were outstanding and the ease at which Joe catches is an art-form.

    Aside from those guys there was good showings around the place. Maybe keep Cathal Mannion closer to goal. Whelan scored a great point from a rough angle in the second and worked hard.

    Couple of negatives would be that we should've been home and hosed but for some poor wides. Thought Hanbury at FB was well beaten at times and he's far better as a HB. Burke getting injured probably meant his inclusion was late though.


  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ya good win, was worried after the Walsh Cup defeat that we might be a bit behind the others heading into the league. If Cork had got the 2nd goal early on it may have been a different story but once we got on top we never looked in trouble without ever properly putting Cork away.

    I expected a big display from Cork today after last year's nightmare but it appears the players just aren't there in Cork at present, a lot of the old names recycled again. I'm sure they will be back but at present they aren't serious contenders.

    Unfortunately it didn't really work out for Adrian Tuohy at midfield he may get another run again. David Burke had a good game though which was encouraging. Great to see Niall Burke back again, had a good game.

    It had only slightly more bite than a challenge game. 1-27 is a good score but we should have at a minimum added another 1-7 or 1-8. We won't get it that easy against anyone else in the league but for today its a good start. Dublin were well beaten last night but our record in Parnell Park is awful. Let's see how we do next Saturday evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭wonder88


    Good to get a win to start the league, as hope Galway at least make the play-offs. As been said the game lacked intensity and while a good score was put on the board, they also conceded 1-20 against a poor enough team. A good few players impressed including Whelan who did well when doubled marked in the second half. I know the attendance figure was announced at h-t but I didn't hear it properly on the terrace, anyone have the figure?


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was a reasonable performance.

    Agree on the score conceded but id rather see us scoring heavily and conceding heavily than hitting and conceding less than 20.

    We had some pretty bad misses on top of what was scored.

    I'm quietly confident about this year, not that we've obviously got any better but our rivals have got considerably weaker(and on improvement we have plenty of 1/2/3yr players who have potential in them).
    People can talk up KK all they want with the whole "the retirements didn't effect them, business as usual".
    They only won one AI since the bulk retired and players like W.Walsh and C.Fogerty aren't a patch on what was starting a few years ago, they're still a contender but they're getting weaker every year IMO.

    It really is up to Galway to finish them, being in Leinster we have the best chance of knocking them out, they haven't the team to win 4 or 5 straight if going into the qualifiers on a consistent basis.
    I wouldn't be overly afraid of any of the rest.

    A league win would lay a marker down, we haven't won anything in a few years now.

    Hoping Daithi comes back and nails the 3, I prefer Lally and Daithi than using Hansbury at 3.
    I think Harte can do enough of a job at HB to warrant keeping Sundays line(can defend reasonably well and is accurate shooting from distance).
    Maybe Hansbury can offer something in the corner or wing but he's not a 3(and P.Mannion ended up playing 3 most of last year too).


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well if any credit was gave last week it's taken this week.

    Worst performance since Laois.

    Just pathetic....beaten all over the pitch.

    Waved the white flag at HT with the subs too.


  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doesn't sound good. 1-5 without reply from the Dubs. An old achilles heel of Galway when a team gets a run on us we can't stem the tide. I don't expect Dublin to do much later in the year but they have twice beaten us very comfortably in the last few weeks which is a worry.

    10 points at this stage is a pathetic total. Easy score 1-27 when there is no-one marking you but when the intensity is upped a little we revert to type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭wonder88


    I had to do with the radio, so unable to say much about performance, but it did not make good listening. Agree that the team is very brittle when the opposition put on a bit of pressure. Also the guys on radio say that there seem to be very little plan/shape to Galway's play. Ok, early days, but I expected a win here, as other 3 games in group are against much better quality teams than the Dubs and Cork.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Tommy Kelly


    All Anthony Cunningham's fault, shure.

    Galway were a complete shambles from start to finish there yesterday evening. Individually the majority weren't at the races at all and I'm not to sure what sort of a game plan management had laid out but it was terrible to look at. The longer the game went on the more all over the place the players looked, they looked like they hadn't a clue what they were supposed to be at or where they were supposed to be.

    Early days and only the league I know, but going by what I've seen so far, Galway have a fair bit of catching up to do now.


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