Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

Drexel · 24-01-2016 05:55PM

it was fairly clear after 5 minutes that the team didnt believe they could win. Mert was a complete tool to do what he did.

Hard to see this team winning the league but we still could

greendom · 24-01-2016 05:55PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Too many lately.

Just as at the Bridge, the game swung on the red card. 2 poor decisions have cost us points.

Soups123 · 24-01-2016 05:55PM

My level of disgust and disappointment with Mert is indescribable in words

JustTheOne · 24-01-2016 05:57PM

In all fairness with the injuries I always thought it would take a miracle.

Loosing youre 2 1st choice cm and Sanchez would decimate any team.

Spurs could overtake us next game:(

Ol' Donie · 24-01-2016 05:57PM

Was there any contact for the red? Really didn't look like it to me.

keano_afc · 24-01-2016 05:58PM

Disappointing, but utterly predictable. We are mentally bankrupt, a team that doesn't believe in itself.

emergingstar · 24-01-2016 05:58PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Was there any contact for the red? Really didn't look like it to me.

Def red no question

omega man · 24-01-2016 05:58PM

This Chelsea team who've languished at the bottom end of the table all season have done the double over us. Well done Wenger.

We're now 3 points behind Leicester and worryingly only 2 ahead of Spurs.

Are we really progressing in terms of winning the league? This was a bottle job up there with anything over the last number of years

tayto lover · 24-01-2016 05:59PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

In all fairness with the injuries I always thought it would take a miracle.

Loosing youre 2 1st choice cm and Sanchez would decimate any team.

Spurs could overtake us next game:(

There's far more to Spurs now. We are too timid and can't hack a fight.
We should have been scratching at the doors of the traps to get at them from the kick-off. Instead we stood off them, were afraid to tackle and surrendered home advantage to them. Mert was stupid but I am putting this down to Wenger. We were not up for a fight and that's down to him imo.

Spanish Johnny · 24-01-2016 06:02PM

Disappointing, but any keyboard warrior that slates that team after that second half performance would want to take a good look at themselves. Serious effort and performance...didn't find the goal unfortunately. 2 years ago that was a 5-0 defeat. that wasn't 'typical' Arsenal.

DarraghF197 · 24-01-2016 06:02PM

How the fùck are we only 7 points ahead of Man Utd?

I think it's fair to say that injuries have once again plagued our season. Cazorla and Coquelin are badly missed, Alexis out also hurt us. The one transfer we wanted Wenger to make was to get another CDM.

emergingstar · 24-01-2016 06:02PM

Now we can all be disgusted with the performance

But let's not go down the we won't win the league we haven't progressed route

DarraghF197 · 24-01-2016 06:02PM

How the fùck are we only 7 points ahead of Man Utd?

I think it's fair to say that injuries have once again plagued our season. Cazorla and Coquelin are badly missed, Alexis out also hurt us. The one transfer we wanted Wenger to make was to get another CDM.

greendom · 24-01-2016 06:02PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Def red no question

Not convinced there was any contact at all

keano_afc · 24-01-2016 06:06PM

DarraghF197 wrote: »

How the fùck are we only 7 points ahead of Man Utd?

I think it's fair to say that injuries have once again plagued our season. Cazorla and Coquelin are badly missed, Alexis out also hurt us. The one transfer we wanted Wenger to make was to get another CDM.

Ah it's all excuses. Is anyone genuinely convinced we'd have won that if it was 11 v 11? We'd still have found a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

We dont have the bottle to win the league. We still have to go to City, United, Spurs. United are a jokeshop but we'd find a way to lose.

Pudders · 24-01-2016 06:07PM

Wenger will never win the league again.

Too loyal to too many players. Mert, Ox, Theo all not good enough. But the stubborn Wenger won't spend.

Utterly pissed off.

tayto lover · 24-01-2016 06:07PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Disappointing, but any keyboard warrior that slates that team after that second half performance would want to take a good look at themselves. Serious effort and performance...didn't find the goal unfortunately. 2 years ago that was a 5-0 defeat. that wasn't 'typical' Arsenal.

Unfortunately it's the first half that counted today.
We never left the traps.
We allowed them have the ball and control midfield and we seemed like we had no game-plan at all. We should have been stuck into them from the get go. We should never play a high line with Mert in the team. We have seen what happens on many occasions when we do. I am blaming Wenger.

emergingstar · 24-01-2016 06:10PM

Pudders wrote: »

Wenger will never win the league again.

Too loyal to too many players. Mert, Ox, Theo all not good enough. But the stubborn Wenger won't spend.

Utterly pissed off.

Hate this ****e

Ol' Donie · 24-01-2016 06:12PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Disappointing, but any keyboard warrior that slates that team after that second half performance would want to take a good look at themselves. Serious effort and performance...didn't find the goal unfortunately. 2 years ago that was a 5-0 defeat. that wasn't 'typical' Arsenal.

Well said.

Any talking about bottle or not turning up either didn't watch that half, or doesn't understand what they are talking about.

There were issues today - I would ask why we bought Elneny if Flamini is still going to start games of this importance, and I would ask what the f*** Per was thinking - but bottle wasn't one of them, and it's embarassing to see actual Arsenal fans saying things like that.

omega man · 24-01-2016 06:12PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Disappointing, but any keyboard warrior that slates that team after that second half performance would want to take a good look at themselves. Serious effort and performance...didn't find the goal unfortunately. 2 years ago that was a 5-0 defeat. that wasn't 'typical' Arsenal.

Serious effort and performance, really?

We must have been watching a different game because I thought we were pretty awful, particularly in central mid and upfront of course.

What did you see that suggested we played so well?

Other than seeing Sanchez back with his infectious attitude I saw no positives at all.

DarraghF197 · 24-01-2016 06:13PM

keano_afc wrote: »

Ah it's all excuses. Is anyone genuinely convinced we'd have won that if it was 11 v 11? We'd still have found a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

We dont have the bottle to win the league. We still have to go to City, United, Spurs. United are a jokeshop but we'd find a way to lose.

I implied we would have had a much better chance with Coq and Cazorla in the midfield over that. Flaming just runs around like a headless chicken, and Ramsey is a great player, but he isn't the playmaker who controls the game.

Bobby Baccala · 24-01-2016 06:14PM

Gutted after that but I knew we wouldn't beat them, it's just something we don't do. Ramsey and Theo were absolutely shocking today, no first touch on either of them and stupid decisions made left right and centre. Our title hopes are looking grim now.

emergingstar · 24-01-2016 06:18PM

Coq and Welbeck and Rosicky should be back for the game after Burnley in the cup

We should be a different animal then

(Hopefully)

Spanish Johnny · 24-01-2016 06:18PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Unfortunately it's the first half that counted today.
We never left the traps.
We allowed them have the ball and control midfield and we seemed like we had no game-plan at all. We should have been stuck into them from the get go. We should never play a high line with Mert in the team. We have seen what happens on many occasions when we do. I am blaming Wenger.

You always do and it gets tiring and repetitive and ignores some of the more obvious things you should be seeing.

KaiserGunner · 24-01-2016 06:19PM

The only positive that I can take from the last few matches is that we are only 3 points off the top. We deserve to be further behind with how poor and inconsistent we have been lately.

x PyRo · 24-01-2016 06:21PM

Gutted, although can't complain with the effort - the lads put it all in but it's borderline impossible playing with ten, not least when your only source of holding a ball up and bringing others into play is the man taken off. Can't get my head around it at all. If it wasn't his ten year anniversary, Theo would have been hooked and rightly so.

omega man · 24-01-2016 06:21PM

KaiserGunner wrote: »

The only positive that I can take from the last few matches is that we are only 3 points off the top. We deserve to be further behind with how poor and inconsistent we have been lately.

The problem though will be at some stage if we're still in it we'll have to win games like today when the pressure is seriously on us

JustTheOne · 24-01-2016 06:22PM

We are still in the mix.

Its still in our hands.

We don't do it now we never will.

Ol' Donie · 24-01-2016 06:23PM

greendom wrote: »

Not convinced there was any contact at all

Looked very much like a dive to me.

Which means we've had 3 red cards this season, 2 of which were against Costa and should not have been awarded.

Marcus Antonius · 24-01-2016 06:29PM

Was absolutely ragging for the vast majority of the match. Have calmed down now slightly since the beers have been started. Extremely disappointing performance. There were many candidates for worst players in red today. Playing the guts of 80 minutes with 10 players was never going to help. I found myself doing a double take when I was agreeing with Souness, when he was saying no contact was made and Costa made the most of it by rolling 52 times and screaming as if he'd be shot. Most hated player in football at the moment is definitely Costa.

Anyhow moving on the lads did try. I would agree with a lot of people, it wasn't the usual capitulation we'd normally see. I thought, down to ten men, Costa is of course gonna score, he did and I thought this has a cricket score written all over it! I'm glad I was proven wrong at least in that respect. They battled away in the second half and had a couple of half decent chances that we should have done better with, Flam had a couple of chances, while not easy on another day might have ended up in the back of the net. I was shocked when Wenger took Giourd off and left Walcott and Campbell on. One of them had to go off. The amount of times where a cross came in and nobody was in the box today was criminal. So that was a major f*ck up by Wenger I think.

The match is done, Leicester are leading by 3 points but still have to play us and City away. The season does not end after a poor defeat to one of our boggy teams. For me it will on depend on how we respond to this. Hopefully Alexis can go and find some form now that he's back from his injury. He did seem to make quite the difference when he came on (even if he misplaced a few passes).

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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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