Londis/Besco Ballybricken

Ronnette · 18-01-2015 04:04AM #1

Is anything happening with the premises? Been years now since the fire!!

lassykk · 19-01-2016 02:30AM

Seems to be work on going at the moment.

Anyone know what's going in there?

dzilla · 19-01-2016 10:19AM

http://www.waterford-news.ie/2014/05/21/supermarket-chain-create-25-jobs-former-besco-ballybricken/

thats the last i heard of it

lassykk · 19-01-2016 02:20PM

Be great to see something open back up there. Be empty for as long as I can remember now

Thanks for the link

Chip Whitley · 20-01-2016 03:23PM

Could be a Tesco Express? Or is it more likely to be a Centra or Londis type shop?

Cabaal · 20-01-2016 05:07PM

Doubt its Tesco, they are closing stores or delaying building stores they have planning for more then opening them

wobbles · 21-01-2016 06:04PM

Wont be Tesco anyway. They cant afford to keep open the ones they have.

shockwave · 21-01-2016 06:53PM

Probably Lidl, theres an Aldi down the road and they always open near each other.

JohnC. · 21-01-2016 07:49PM

That news is from May 2014. That imminent opening never happened.

wmpdd3 · 21-01-2016 08:35PM

I think Lidl would go well there, the area just over the bridge is not well served by Lidl. I cant recall any Lidls that are in town except for Dublin, is it something they do?

danjo-xx · 21-01-2016 09:03PM

The doors have been open over the last week or two and someone was in there, so hopefully that a good sign.

Can't see Lidl going in there as they like to have plenty of parking, unless they make an exception to compete with aldi.

Parking up there is hell even at the moment.

lassykk · 21-01-2016 09:04PM

We would surely know if it was going to be Lidl. They usually announce openings well in advance don't they?

Aldi do anyway - we knew for ages that there was one going in on the Dunmore Road.

Hope it is a Lidl

lassykk · 21-01-2016 09:05PM

We would surely know if it was going to be Lidl. They usually announce openings well in advance don't they?

Aldi do anyway - we knew for ages that there was one going in on the Dunmore Road.

Hope it is a Lidl

dzilla · 22-01-2016 11:48AM

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I think Lidl would go well there, the area just over the bridge is not well served by Lidl. I cant recall any Lidls that are in town except for Dublin, is it something they do?

Big un in Cork City @ Cornmarket

danjo-xx · 22-01-2016 07:04PM

Better Value Supermarkets: (Better Value Supermarket Limited was set up on Wed the 21st of Mar 1962 in Waterford. Their current status is Normal. The company's current directors Morgan Power, Maureen Power and George Walsh have been the director of 14 other Irish companies between them; 3 of which are now closed. Better Value Supermarket Limited has 2 shareholders)

Permission for demolition and construction of existing house at No. 7 chapel lane and its change of use from house to office with ancillary accommodation and demolition of Besco to construct a new 4 story Mixed development.

4 Retail Units/Apartments on 3rd & 4th Floor and some office space, that’s roughly it.

danjo-xx · 22-01-2016 07:14PM

That notice is dated 13th August 2008, but it looks freshly put up on the door today, probably had to re-apply as permission only lasts 5yrs. Still should have 2015 or 2016 on it.

Guesses anyone:)

lanno25 · 23-01-2016 12:31AM

Mr Price.

robtri · 28-01-2016 07:19PM

danjo-xx wrote: »

That notice is dated 13th August 2008, but it looks freshly put up on the door today, probably had to re-apply as permission only lasts 5yrs. Still should have 2015 or 2016 on it.

Guesses anyone:)

nothing else has been submitted, if it was it would be on the councils website, which i must say is great.... on the map section you can see all the planning applications for the site, right back to 1969....

latest one is 2008 to break up the shop into four retail units with apartments above

Planning Application: 08500089
Application Number 08500089
Received Date 18/03/2008
Application Status Application Finalised
Application Type PERMISSION
Applicant Name Better Value Supermarkets Ltd,
Description demolition and reconstruction of existing house at No. 7 Church Lane and it's change of use from House to Office with Ancillary Accommodation and demolition of existing retail premises of 44-48 Ballybricken, known formerly as the Besco Site to construct a new four storey mixed development consisting of the following:- Ground Floor: 4 No. retail units with ancillary accommodation, signage, an ESB Sub Station, Services Yard and Bin Store. First Floor: 2 No. office units with Ancillary Accommodation. First floor level landscaped roof garden and first floor staff accommodation and office space for ground floor Unit No. 2. Second Floor: 1 No. Office Unit with ancillary accommodation, 3 No. Apartments (1 No. one Bedroom, 1 No. two bedroom and 1 No. three bedroom Apartment with third floor living room), Second floor landscaped roof gardens. Third Floor: 4 No. apartments (3 No. One bedroom and 1 No. two bedroom), Third floor Landscaped roof gardens and linked access to aforementioned apartment
Location 7 Church Lane, & 44-48 Ballybricken, Waterford
Decision Granted (Conditional)
Decision Date 02/09/2008
Decision Due Date 03/09/2008
Appeal Decision n/a
Appeal Decision Date n/a
View further details More info
View documents More info
ITMEasting 660,309.37
ITMNorthing 612,369.61
Planning Authority Waterford City and County Council
Date Uploaded 20160128

lassykk · 28-01-2016 08:44PM

My understanding of planning, which is limited, is that it would have lapsed by now if applied for in 2008?

danjo-xx · 30-01-2016 07:41PM

Manor Properties has just put up 'To Let" signs on it.

lassykk · 30-01-2016 08:48PM

Wonder what the internal layout is designed for. Think I'll give Manor Properties a call Monday out of pure nosiness ;-)

danjo-xx · 30-01-2016 09:27PM

Ballybricken, Waterford City, Co. Waterford

€35,000 yearly
Manor Properties are delighted to offer the former “Besco Supermarket” for lease.
The unit is located in Ballybricken in Waterford City only short walk to the main street of the city center.
The unit measures circa 5000 sq ft with a high profile glass front and plenty car parking.
This is an ideal opportunity for any national brand to open a store in a highly populated area with extensive foot fall.

robtri · 31-01-2016 01:39PM

lassykk wrote: »

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you are correct, 5 years is the the term, after that if it is not completed u must apply again...

johndoe99 · 31-01-2016 09:20PM

the glass front wooden frames are in a right mess, there's rot and chunks missing. it would need some face-lift even replaced.

danjo-xx · 31-01-2016 09:24PM

johndoe99 wrote: »

the glass front wooden frames are in a right mess, there's rot and chunks missing. it would need some face-lift even replaced.

Yeah its all rotten, and about half of the glass frontage has been smashed,
I love the bit 'and has plenty of parking' :rolleyes:

BBM77 · 01-02-2016 12:02PM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0201/764441-centra-jobs/

Interesting announcement considering that there has been work going on in the old Besco's.

lassykk · 01-02-2016 07:14PM

Be great if that happens just to have the presence back in Ballybricken.

I don't know how successful a Centra would be there though as the Spar on the Lower Yellow Road closed (I assume due to lack of footfall)

I know that Ballybricken would be busier but would it be busy enough?

Wouldn't even get the off license trade as there is one just down the street

Izy · 01-02-2016 07:57PM

no hope of a centra there...

iseegirls · 29-02-2016 12:44PM

Lot of work going on there last weekend while I was passing. Painting the outside of the building, as well as works inside.

johndoe99 · 29-02-2016 12:48PM

the carpenter did a nice job giving the front a facelift. It's in a need of some shutters though, as those windows are always taking a battering.

Londis/Besco Ballybricken

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