Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

14-01-2016 09:50PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Woah! He talks rubbish a bit, but our John is far from loathsome!

Have a certain level of respect for JG but he has lost a lot of credibility with that scutter.

keano_afc · 14-01-2016 09:50PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Giles slagging off Ozil on off the ball now, saying he was taking off last night because he was poor.

Says would be joke if Ozil was named player of season.

Moron

I was listening to it in the car. Almost went off the road with anger. I stopped and text them but they didn't read it out.

KaiserGunner · 14-01-2016 11:43PM

I didn't view or post on boards last night as I was angry and annoyed about throwing away two points in the last minute. I don't feel as bad now as we are still top of the league etc.

Hopefully Elneny can slot in to midfield almost immediately and displace Flamini. I think it's fairly obvious that since Cazorla and Coquelin have got injured that we haven't been playing as well IMO. Amazingly though we have still got wins despite this.

I love Ramsey and think he's a great player, but he's more of a free role/roaming midfielder so I think his lack of discipline in a positional sense hurts the team without Coquelin and Cazorla in there.

This seems to be the case away from home recently. Since the end of November when we were beaten 2-1 by West Brom, we have played 5 away games, won 1 lost 2 and drawn 2. We have conceded 10 goals in that time and kept a clean sheet in our only win in that time against lowly Villa. So it's a bit of a poor run away from home in the league. IMO the midfield has a lot to do with this.

No better time now than to get a win away from home against Stoke, ironically I'm a bit more confident beating them now with their style of play to their past teams under Pulis.

Ol' Donie · 14-01-2016 11:50PM

Woah. We really did sign an actual player. Wow.

I don't mind telling yis, I can't wait to see this Elneny chap in action for us. I've a good feeling about it.

enfant terrible · 15-01-2016 12:23AM

keano_afc wrote: »

I was listening to it in the car. Almost went off the road with anger. I stopped and text them but they didn't read it out.

Ya they actually asked later for Arsenal fans to stop texting in about Ozil and in fairness said they disagreed with what Giles said about Ozil.

Pierce_1991 · 15-01-2016 12:29AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Giles really lets himself down with his knowledge of football.
It just goes to show that being a good footballer does not make you a good pundit.
He's a loathsome little man.

Think that's going a bit too far. He comes across as silly when he talks about specific players or teams because he clearly just doesn't watch much football anymore. That said I think he's well capable of analysing a game pretty well, he does understand football pretty well. Loathsome seems very harsh.

~Rebel~ · 15-01-2016 12:34AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Giles slagging off Ozil on off the ball now, saying he was taking off last night because he was poor.

Says would be joke if Ozil was named player of season.

Moron

I've noticed Giles getting worse and worse over the past few years...i'm not even sure how much football he actually watches anymore...over christmas he spent close to half an hour on a tirade against Ranieri for daring to say that he'd talk to his players about where their ambitions lay in the second half of the season. Pretty inoffensive comment, that obviously just meant "our goals are now different than they were at the start of the season", but Giles totally lost his head over it - all without a single comment on their football.

Gringo180 · 15-01-2016 12:41AM

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't rate him as you probably know.
I find him timid in the extreme and gave reasons before.
He has not improves in over 8 years with Arsenal.
He is like a rabbit in the headlights.
He also gives possession away quite a lot.

Just my opinion. I have no faith in him at all.

Reminds me of another 2 home grown players.

Gringo180 · 15-01-2016 12:42AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Giles slagging off Ozil on off the ball now, saying he was taking off last night because he was poor.

Says would be joke if Ozil was named player of season.

Moron

Off to the old folks home with him. Whats worse is our tv license money pays his wage...

Arghus · 15-01-2016 02:02AM

I would have called Giles my favourite pundit for years. I really liked his old school approach to analysis, not too sophisticated, for sure, but I thought he always called it like he saw it and some of the fundamentals he preached about will always be relevant when it came to understanding the game. Giles was always coming from a perspective of knowledge. At least up until recently; Dunphy, by contrast, is an articulate spoofer.

But that stuff about Ozil shows that he's badly out of touch. Even the most hardened Ozil haters that I know haven't had much to crow about this year. Ozil is a genius and he's produced the goods time and time again this season. Johnny just doesn't rate him and all that reality out there won't convince him otherwise. For him to be so clearly wrong about something so self-evident shoots his credibility to bits, and that makes me sad.

I wouldn't say he's loathsome, far from it. He's still totally gas - talking about whether players have it in them to kill their granny, for example. I wouldn't even class him as anti-Arsenal: during the Cesc years I heard him say on Newstalk, on a few ocassions, that if magically rejuvenated back into his prime, it'd be the Arsenal midfield he'd dream of playing in. He just hates Mesut Ozil. So I'm still going to look to him for entertainment value, but forget it when it comes to objective analysis.

Boskowski · 15-01-2016 08:04AM

Obviously very late with this and thread has moved on but I have to say I was very impressed with the game at Anfield. I dare say that most teams would have rolled over to that opening barrage of an excellent 1st half Liverpool, 3:0 at the break, game over. Arsenal were clearly second best during that 1st half but kept it in play and could have come out with 3 points in the end. A draw was a very decent result under the circumstances and thats the stuff champions are made of - there I said it.

wawaman · 15-01-2016 09:53AM

Elneny available for Sunday. Alexis to have a fitness test to see if he plays. Welbeck back in 2/3 weeks. Also rumours Coq & Jack are back in training

keano_afc · 15-01-2016 09:55AM

wawaman wrote: »

Elneny available for Sunday. Alexis to have a fitness test to see if he plays. Welbeck back in 2/3 weeks. Also rumours Coq & Jack are back in training

Starting Elneny away to Stoke would be a risk. They still have thugs like Adam who would take pleasure in welcoming him to English football. I'd almost start Arteta and maybe bring Elneny on in the second half.

JustTheOne · 15-01-2016 11:14AM

wawaman wrote: »

Elneny available for Sunday. Alexis to have a fitness test to see if he plays. Welbeck back in 2/3 weeks. Also rumours Coq & Jack are back in training

Coq back in training makes me happy of a Friday.

gandalf · 15-01-2016 11:31AM

Cool reminder of the Middlesbrough game we won 10 years ago 7-0 on the Arsenal FB page today

https://www.facebook.com/Arsenal/videos/10153620739062713/

pudzey101 · 15-01-2016 11:32AM

cant wait till the coq blocker is back in action !!! great news

MaxPower89 · 15-01-2016 11:33AM

Had a look at physioroom yesterday and we were 5th with 5 or so injuries, now it's saying the only injury is Wilshere?? I thought Coq was meant to be out until March, seems very quick to be back training.

I think Elneny will go straight into the team, with Chelsea after Stoke now looks the best time to start him. Burnley in the cup would be the next time you could start him, that's not till the 30th at which point the Coq could be fit.

Whatever is going on, its a great time to get bodies back fit. Walcott and the Ox will be back on the bench shortly, I thought one of them would stake a claim, but they both have been disappointing recently.

ronjo · 15-01-2016 11:35AM

Any word on whether Sanchez will be in the squad for Sunday?

If yes, do people think he will start?

wawaman · 15-01-2016 11:39AM

gandalf wrote: »

Cool reminder of the Middlesbrough game we won 10 years ago 7-0 on the Arsenal FB page today

https://www.facebook.com/Arsenal/videos/10153620739062713/

Thats the last game i was ever at Highbury for

MaxPower89 · 15-01-2016 11:39AM

ronjo wrote: »

Any word on whether Sanchez will be in the squad for Sunday?

If yes, do people think he will start?

Mixed messages from the gaffer, "he's fit" but "its a gamble", I think Alexis will be on the bench. Walcott to start, and he will know the pressure is on to deliver, because once Alexis is back, it will be for good.

gandalf · 15-01-2016 11:50AM

Here's a good selection of video highlights of Mohamed Elneny.

http://news.arseblog.com/2016/01/video-mohamed-elneny-welcome-to-arsenal/

He looks like a very tidy player with a decent long range shot on him!

pudzey101 · 15-01-2016 12:00PM

gandalf wrote: »

Here's a good selection of video highlights of Mohamed Elneny.

http://news.arseblog.com/2016/01/video-mohamed-elneny-welcome-to-arsenal/

He looks like a very tidy player with a decent long range shot on him!

tidy , good vision of a pass aswell

ronjo · 15-01-2016 12:10PM

MaxPower89 wrote: »

Mixed messages from the gaffer, "he's fit" but "its a gamble", I think Alexis will be on the bench. Walcott to start, and he will know the pressure is on to deliver, because once Alexis is back, it will be for good.

Actually if Sanchez is fit then i would put him straight back in.
if i remember correctly he came straight in at start of season after his extended break when people expected him to be on the bench.

Nemeses2050 · 15-01-2016 12:16PM

Even though it's Youtube, he does look tidy and can ping a pass...

emmetlego · 15-01-2016 12:54PM

http://www.balls.ie/football/john-giles-comments-on-mesut-ozil-have-really-annoyed-some-folk/321621
An article on Giles' comments about the magician!

tayto lover · 15-01-2016 01:09PM

keano_afc wrote: »

Starting Elneny away to Stoke would be a risk. They still have thugs like Adam who would take pleasure in welcoming him to English football. I'd almost start Arteta and maybe bring Elneny on in the second half.

I really hope Wenger does not start Arteta against Stoke.
Flamini would be more physical against them with Elneny coming on when he tires.
I think Arteta is nearing his end at Arsenal, great player though he was and one of my favourites.

15-01-2016 01:12PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I really hope Wenger does not start Arteta against Stoke.
Flamini would be more physical against them with Elneny coming on when he tires.
I think Arteta is nearing his end at Arsenal, great player though he was and one of my favourites.

My biggest concern is I feel like Wenger has the opinion that he has to play Arteta when he's fit. I don't know whether this pressure comes from Arteta himself, or if it's just because he's club captain. I'd be surprised if a fit Arteta sits on the bench, though.

I'd be happy if he doesn't play again, and is just there for team morale. Only a matter of time before his calf goes again.

tayto lover · 15-01-2016 01:29PM

Just a bit of craic but what about this team for an away match at Stoke? Two DM's.

Cech

Bellerin Mert Kos Monrael

Elneny Flamini

Ramsey Ozil Walcott/ Campbell

Giroud

gandalf · 15-01-2016 01:31PM

TBH it's obvious to me that Arteta's role is going to move into the coaching side of things.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/12/wenger-opens-door-to-arteta-coaching-role/

I only see him being used as a substitute at most at this stage. He definitely shouldn't be played from the start at the weekend. As tayto lover said the Flamster should start on Sunday with Elneny getting a few minutes as a sub.

tayto lover · 15-01-2016 01:33PM

gandalf wrote: »

TBH it's obvious to me that Arteta's role is going to move into the coaching side of things.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/12/wenger-opens-door-to-arteta-coaching-role/

I only see him being used as a substitute at most at this stage. He definitely shouldn't be played from the start at the weekend. As tayto lover said the Flamster should start on Sunday with Elneny getting a few minutes as a sub.

That would be a nice reward for Arteta and our youth would benefit too.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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