iPhone 6 and dual band wifi.

dodzy wrote: »

My post will not help the OP 5ghz and 2.4ghz are basically 2 different frequencies with benefits and drawbacks to both. 2.4 travels farther, penetrates better but is typically more congested.

5ghz on the other hand, will not travel as far, is more susceptible to walls and obstacles but if you are close to the source, you can enjoy better speeds.

Yup 5ghz all the way. Getting full 240mbit/sec here on the iPhone the same as if I could have Ethernet attached

Not yet, have the car tax and insurance coming up, along with a trip to Apple TV Tech Talks and post December credit card bill...

Soon though...

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Yup 5ghz all the way. Getting full 240mbit/sec here on the iPhone the same as if I could have Ethernet attached

Upc?

What router and phone have you?

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Horizon >> Airport Extreme >> iPhone 6.

Thanks. Yeh I only get 150Mb using upc ubee router. That's with 5ghz. But it does not do dual band simultaneously. Need to leave it on 2.4 as not all my stuff is 5 compatible. With that I only get around 50Mb.
Sorry for changing the topic (o:

I have a dual band ac router.
If I go out of range of the 5ghz it will switch to the 2.4ghz but you have to manually switch it back unless it goes out of range of the currently connected band.
Its a bloody nuisance in fairness.

Not sure how it works on other routers, but on my time capsule (basically AirPort Extreme with HDD) both networks are named the same, I can only see one wifi network name if I search (but they're both there though). Phone switches back and forth as required. You can always name them the same I guess?

If you connect to the 5GHz and move out of range and the iPhone connects to the 2.4GHz, then move back within range of the 5GHz, I don't believe the iPhone will automatically switch back to the 5GHz. From apple support the iPhone connects to networks based on auto-join settings and signal strength.

From https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202831 - "When iOS evaluates SSIDs to auto-join, it prefers known networks, higher levels of security, and stronger relative signal strength (RSSI)."

Unless of course, when you are closer to the router, the signal strength of the 5GHz is higher than the 2.4GHz, but I don't see that happening.

Just looking at the wifi networks available on my mac, my 5GHz is actually slightly higher than my 2.4GHz, by 1-2. So I guess it could be possible when you are in the same room as the router. But I don't know what tolerances are built into iOS for it.

SgtBob wrote: »

If you connect to the 5GHz and move out of range and the iPhone connects to the 2.4GHz, then move back within range of the 5GHz, I don't believe the iPhone will automatically switch back to the 5GHz. From apple support the iPhone connects to networks based on auto-join settings and signal strength.

From https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202831 - "When iOS evaluates SSIDs to auto-join, it prefers known networks, higher levels of security, and stronger relative signal strength (RSSI)."

Unless of course, when you are closer to the router, the signal strength of the 5GHz is higher than the 2.4GHz, but I don't see that happening.

Just looking at the wifi networks available on my mac, my 5GHz is actually slightly higher than my 2.4GHz, by 1-2. So I guess it could be possible when you are in the same room as the router. But I don't know what tolerances are built into iOS for it.

While what you say is true for the behaviour of the iPhone, the Apple router I think makes the difference. I think it's different to standard dual-band routers as on the latest models you can't even switch off one of the bands. All you can do is name them differently. Recently I had to set something up and the device I was setting up only supported 2.4. As I can't switch off 5 and both my phone and new device needed to be on 2.4 I named the networks differently and connected the iPhone to the 2.4 one (obviously deleting the 5 band from stored networks, even on iCloud). I could not get the device setup and after a lot of troubleshooting figured out the iPhone still forced itself onto the 5ghz wifi which made the setup fail (airport utility app showed what the iPhone was actually connected to, instead of the wifi settings). In the end I had to use an older model iPhone to successfully setup the device. So long story short, the Apple routers work well and will force the iPhone to switch to the better network as appropriate even if you try to avoid this from happening...

dodzy wrote: »

This one CG?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DCR3VV8/sr=8-1/qid=1452865636/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1452865636&sr=8-1

yup, that's the one

So you have horizon >> iPhone / iPad ?

Yup there's a massive difference. Upc's routers and hardware are terrible (rumours is it they have an 802.11 ac) router out as they're offering 360mbit now but I doubt the quality of its good.

To get the full wifi speed to your iPhone you need a good ac router with 5ghz. Remember the iOS device has to have an ac wifi chip in it too, iPhone 6 and about I think.

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

So you have horizon >> iPhone / iPad ?

Yup there's a massive difference. Upc's routers and hardware are terrible (rumours is it they have an 802.11 ac) router out as they're offering 360mbit now but I doubt the quality of its good.

To get the full wifi speed to your iPhone you need a good ac router with 5ghz. Remember the iOS device has to have an ac wifi chip in it too, iPhone 6 and about I think.

Yep, spot on. Cheers for the advice. I might just bite the bullet and invest. I take it that it'll perform admirably in terms of feeding the daughters facebook / snapchat addiction on 2.4ghz?