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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    robindch wrote: »
    A man enters a classroom in Paris, yells "This is Daesh. This is a warning!”, grabs a Stanley knife and hacks at the teacher, thankfully non-fatally.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/paris-teacher-stabbing-2500411-Dec2015/

    Somebody evidently thought there wasn't enough fear and hate in the world already............

    "Paris Isis attack teacher who claimed he was stabbed in throat 'made entire thing up'

    The Paris prosecutor has announced that the teacher who was apparently attacked in an Isis-related stabbing had fabricated the story "
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-isis-attack-teacher-who-claimed-he-was-stabbed-in-throat-made-entire-thing-up-a6772921.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Nodin wrote: »
    Somebody evidently thought there wasn't enough fear and hate in the world already............

    "Paris Isis attack teacher who claimed he was stabbed in throat 'made entire thing up'

    The Paris prosecutor has announced that the teacher who was apparently attacked in an Isis-related stabbing had fabricated the story "
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-isis-attack-teacher-who-claimed-he-was-stabbed-in-throat-made-entire-thing-up-a6772921.html

    Fcuking hell. I'm sure the parents of the toddlers attending that nursery school will be relieved.....not. Can you imagine? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Shrap wrote: »
    Fcuking hell. I'm sure the parents of the toddlers attending that nursery school will be relieved.....not. Can you imagine? :eek:

    People are prone to weirdness, occasionally ill. This could be either.

    On a sort of related note
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me
    You'll note that the picture of the parents featuring the individual in question and the children does not match the individuals description by some measure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Nodin wrote: »
    People are prone to weirdness, occasionally ill. This could be either.
    Oh yes, it could. Similarly, so could be the entire membership of Isis. *Wanting* in some respect or other.
    On a sort of related note
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me
    You'll note that the picture of the parents featuring the individual in question and the children does not match the individuals description by some measure.

    Oh dear. I feel so sorry for people who escape a strict ideal by exchanging it for another one, and that people feel they can own a certain ideology by fault of birth or worth of their belief. Identifying with others is what we're humanely so good at, and exactly what we have the gift to either give, receive or reject. Pity we choose to reject others so frequently.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Emergency Christian Ministries runs a homeless shelter in Williamsburg, Kentucky and the director, Billy Woodward recently decided to kick all the women and children out as some of the women were having sex with some of the men:

    http://www.wymt.com/content/news/Women-no-longer-accepted-at-homeless-shelter-after-sex-problem-361346571.html
    Woodward said he made his decision based on the Bible. He said what was happening at the shelter was sinful. He told us he is not saying women are the cause of the "sex problem."

    "It takes two to do that," he said. "We are not biased or prejudice whatsoever."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Youtuber Sargon suggesting that a conversation needs to be had about what is being taught in Mosques and Muslim schools

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    silverharp wrote: »
    Youtuber Sargon .............

    Wasn't he killed when yer man threw the ring in the volcano?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Nodin wrote: »
    Wasn't he killed when yer man threw the ring in the volcano?

    he was a badass but I dont think he had any magic rings. First person in history to have what could be described as an empire




    Anyway hat tip to Maryam
    Calls to Dismantle Parallel Legal Systems by women's rights campaigners

    Published on Dec 15, 2015
    Diana Nammi of Iranian Kurdish Women's Rights Organisation, Maryam Namazie of One Law for All, Pragna Patel of Southall Black Sisters, Gita Sahgal of Centre for Secular Space, Women's Rights Campaigner Yasmin Rehman, Nasreen Rehman of British Muslims for Secular Democracy and Rumana Hashem of Nari Diganta speak out against parallel legal systems and for one law for all on 10 December 2015, International Human Rights Day.

    The campaigners handed in a statement signed by nearly 400 individuals and groups to 10 Downing Street calling for the dismantling of parallel legal systems, including sharia "courts" and Beth Dins.








    http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/10dec/

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-catholic-priest-accused-of-taking-church-donations-to-pay-male-prostitute/


    NY Catholic Priest Accused of Taking Church Donations to Pay Male Prostitute

    A Catholic priest in the Bronx is being accused in a new lawsuit of stealing over a million dollars from two different churches over a number of years and using the money to pay for a male prostitute.

    According to News 12, Reverend Peter Miqueli stole donations from both St. Frances de Chantal’s Church in Throgs Neck and St. Frances Cabrini Church on Roosevelt Island, and used the money not just for the prostitute, but for renovations on his home.

    The suit, filed by some of his parishoners, says that Miqueli paid the prostitute $1000 a session to act out his sexual fantasies, and apparently part of that involved BDSM slave/slave-master role-playing. He also allegedly paid tens of thousands for illegal drugs, bought an apartment for the prostitute (identified as Keith Crist), and took trips to Florida and Italy all with the money he stole.

    The Archdiocese of New York, which is also named in the lawsuit due to alleged negligence in supervising Miqueli, says it is looking into these charges.

    A woman claiming to be Crist’s ex-girlfriend told The New York Post she sent emails to Timothy Cardinal Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, in which she provided specific details about what Crist and Miqueli did (warning: very probably NSFW):

    “Keith has been Father Miquelis gay, for-pay prostitute,” the e-mail reads.

    “More specifically, Father Miqueli is Keith Crist’s toilet slave,” Gudin wrote Dolan.

    “If you don’t know what that means, Cardinal, I will break it down for you . . . Keith Crist uses Father Miqueli as his toilet, and Father Miqueli drinks his piss during their weekly, 3 day get-togethers when they take off to Father Miquelis house in Brick, NJ, far away from prying eyes.”


    She also said that Miqueli had a “full-blown dungeon” in his house

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,863 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    robindch wrote: »
    Emergency Christian Ministries runs a homeless shelter in Williamsburg, Kentucky and the director, Billy Woodward recently decided to kick all the women and children out as some of the women were having sex with some of the men:

    Just wait til he finds out what men detained in single-sex institutions get up to.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    From the "Solar Farms are Stealing our Sun!" corner, comes this little nugget - some people listening to Bill Nye boo'd and left because he said that the moon's apparent illumination is actually reflected sunlight.

    And without wishing to condemn an entire state by the actions of a few, I can't help but point out that this happened in Waco. In Texas.

    http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/blogs/bill-nye-bood-in-texas-for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    A woman was killed in Germany by relatives in an apparent attempt at an exorcism.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GERMANY_EXORCISM_KILLING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Pope Frank has opened the books, decided that Mother T is an earner, and decided to "up her" and make her a 'friend of ours'.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35129463


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,298 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Nodin wrote: »
    Pope Frank has opened the books, decided that Mother T is an earner, and decided to "up her" and make her a 'friend of ours'.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35129463
    Died in 1997 but performing miracles in 2008, hallelujah! Can we also assume that just like the recent "God Heals Crazy Lady" thread that the Brazilian man was also receiving extensive cancer therapy when the miracle healing occurred?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Thargor wrote: »
    Died in 1997 but performing miracles in 2008, hallelujah! Can we also assume that just like the recent "God Heals Crazy Lady" thread that the Brazilian man was also receiving extensive cancer
    therapy when the miracle healing occurred?

    I'll just post this extract for anyone curious -

    "There are few details about the recovery of the Brazilian man, whose life the Vatican says was saved in the second miracle.
    His identity has not been disclosed to maintain the discretion needed for the investigation, the Catholic New Agency has said.
    It says he was unexpectedly cured from brain tumours in 2008 after his priest prayed for Mother Teresa's intervention with God."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35129463

    Scoffers will be along to point out how convenient that seems, the cynical joyless scoffing bastards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Think this counts as some form of progress - a woman and non-free Presbyterian in charge of the DUP -

    "Arlene Foster has been formally elected as leader of the Democratic Unionist party.
    The Stormont finance minister was the sole nominee to replace Peter Robinson as head of the largest unionist grouping in Northern Ireland.
    The 45-year-old is the DUP’s first female leader, and she will become the first woman to lead Northern Ireland when she takes on the role of first minister next month."
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/17/arlene-foster-becomes-first-female-leader-of-dup

    Surprised Dodds pulled out of the race, though not the bould Sammy Wilson who didn't have much of a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Walter Bishop


    Nodin wrote: »
    I'll just post this extract for anyone curious -

    "There are few details about the recovery of the Brazilian man, whose life the Vatican says was saved in the second miracle.
    His identity has not been disclosed to maintain the discretion needed for the investigation, the Catholic New Agency has said.
    It says he was unexpectedly cured from brain tumours in 2008 after his priest prayed for Mother Teresa's intervention with God."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35129463

    Scoffers will be along to point out how convenient that seems, the cynical joyless scoffing bastards.

    I suppose I should feel mortified for them, but the Catholic Church do have previous in 'making **** up to suit ourselves' area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I suppose I should feel mortified for them, but the Catholic Church do have previous in 'making **** up to suit ourselves' area.

    Sure isn't that the whole point of bein the catholic church? If ye were stuck with the bible it'd take all the craic out of it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Need to drive your congregation around, but don't have a driving license which covers you? Hell, y'all get your asses to Mississippi!

    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/politicalledger/2015/02/05/jesus-take-the-wheel-passes-house/22931465/
    House members on Thursday passed a bill exempting mid-sized church buses from the state's commercial driver's license requirements, prompting one lawmaker to call it the "Jesus Take the Wheel Act."

    The bill, HB 132, would help congregations lacking a CDL-certified driver transport up to 30 passengers in a church-owned vehicle. Although applying equally to all churches, it's primarily aimed at smaller congregations with fewer members and financial resources. It now heads to the Senate for consideration.

    "This just allows small churches, some don't have people with commercial licenses at all, and they can pick a person to drive the bus," said state Rep. Robert Johnson III, D-Natchez, who chairs the Transportation Committee which had passed the bill earlier in the session. Current law requires CDL-certified drivers for any vehicle transporting more than 16 passengers, including the driver. The bill would amend that law to exempt church buses designed to carry 30 passengers or less.

    Some questioned the exemption. State Rep. Toby Barker, R-Hattiesburg, asked whether it would apply to vans carrying small children to youth camps or other events. It will. Barker later tweeted the bill should be named the "Jesus Take the Wheel Act."

    State Rep. Charles Young, D-Meridian, asked whether it also eliminates the need for a passenger transport endorsement, which most bus drivers in Mississippi need. It does. When contacted by The Clarion-Ledger, longtime CDL-certified driver Troy Coll of Hattiesburg called the measure potentially dangerous. "I think this bill is trading the safety of everyone on the road for the convenience of those operating church vehicles," Coll said. "Since the bill covers vehicles up to 30 passengers, we're not just talking vans with extra rows of seats – these are buses, with long frames and much larger blind spots than passenger vehicles."

    Commercial certified bus drivers must pass a written test and a driving test and also must get a CDL Medical Card, which requires the driver pass a physical. "Obtaining a CDL is not especially difficult," Coll said, "but the testing does increase the level of scrutiny on drivers, and the medical requirements prevent individuals with poor vision/hearing/motor control or untreated diabetes from driving large vehicles full of vulnerable passengers."

    According to the National Transportation Safety Board, though, one of the most dangerous – and popular – church transport vehicles requires no certified driver at all. The fully loaded 15-passenger van has a high roll-over risk resulting in numerous fatalities nationwide, the NTSB said in a consumer warning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    robindch wrote: »
    Need to drive your congregation around, but don't have a driving license which covers you? Hell, y'all get your asses to Mississippi!

    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/politicalledger/2015/02/05/jesus-take-the-wheel-passes-house/22931465/
    I look forward to the squeals of outrage as the Satanic Temple use this exemption to ferry their fellow Satanists around this great state.

    MrP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,863 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    MrPudding wrote: »
    I look forward to the squeals of outrage as the Satanic Temple use this exemption to ferry their fellow Satanists around this great state.

    MrP

    Could they manage 30 though? :p

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Brief case wanker Senator comes out with crap shock

    "The Labour party is showing "anti-catholic bigotry" in it's handling of access to primary schools.
    That's according to Senator Ronan Mullen who says that potential new policy is driven by a small percentage of people who can't bear the idea of catholic schools teaching catholic values."
    http://www.newstalk.com/Ronan-Mullen-accuses-Labour-Party-of-antiCatholic-bigotry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,863 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    NUI graduates, hang your heads in collective shame yet again.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Ah balls, I won't graduate in time to vote for anyone but Mullen. :(


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Every few weeks, I see either La Quinn or The Little Professor around Westland Row - I'm wondering if I should haul up and thank them for the excellent work they're doing in alienating anybody with two braincells to rub together?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,863 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Dr Selim is at it again.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/new-muslim-group-in-dublin-to-encourage-engagement-with-politics-1.2478981
    The new South Dublin Muslim Board has nine members, from places such as Egypt, Pakistan, Morocco, Algeria, Iraq, Somalia, the Caucasus region, Jordan and Libya.

    So do Turks or Bosnians or Malaysians or Indonesians not count as 'real Muslims' or something? Or is Selim only interested in hearing and propagating the views of an ultra-conservative cohort of Muslims from the most repressive regimes in the world?

    What about Muslims born and raised here?
    Dr Ali Selim, of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Clonskeagh and a member of the board, said it was also planned to hold a subsequent meeting at which they would discuss candidates who might “serve the best interests of Muslims”.

    The best interests of muslims or the best interests of the South Dublin Muslim Board?

    What if many of the Muslims who choose to live here are happy to do so because it is not a society where conservative Islam has a strong influence?
    More broadly, he noted, there were no Muslims in Ireland’s public service

    How on earth could he possibly know that?
    Religion is not a criterion for employment in the Republic (apart from teaching, obviously :rolleyes: ) and in any case out of a cohort of 100,000+ public servants he is saying there is not one single convert to islam?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp



    How on earth could he possibly know that?
    Religion is not a criterion for employment in the Republic (apart from teaching, obviously :rolleyes: ) and in any case out of a cohort of 100,000+ public servants he is saying there is not one single convert to islam?

    given that the HSE is part of the public service one can safely say he is talking out his ar5e

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin





    How on earth could he possibly know that?
    Religion is not a criterion for employment in the Republic (apart from teaching, obviously :rolleyes: ) and in any case out of a cohort of 100,000+ public servants he is saying there is not one single convert to islam?

    I doubt very much there isn't in there somewhere - he musn't be counting any medical personell either.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    A few days ago, an islamic woman told her family that she's an atheist.

    Here's how her family reacted:

    https://talesofcourage.wordpress.com/2016/01/02/twenty-four-hours-of-being-an-out-exmuslim/


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Have been out of town for a few days and am just catching up here and elsewhere - did this story get posted?

    Anyhow, a few days back, a group of armed Mormon nutters in Oregon took control of the unoccupied visitors center at a US wildlife refuge in protest at a long-running dispute over poaching on federal land. The protesters claim that there are around one hundred holed up, but other reports indicate that the actual number may be closer to a dozen. The book of Mormon, and the unbeatably named Captain Moroni, feature heavily in their weird verbal output.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/01/04/why-the-oregon-militia-is-citing-the-book-of-mormons-military-stud-muffin/
    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-protest/index.html
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/01/domestic-terrorists-occupy-federal-building-in-oregon/

    Unfortunately, the internet is not taking them seriously, especially since they issued a request for sympathizers to deliver "snacks" to the building, briefly causing the splendid tags #YallQaeda and #YeeHawd to trend briefly:

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/01/04/armed-oregon-militants-issue-hilarious-code-red-for-snacks-internet-responds-tweets/

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