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Do you believe humans have a sixth sense?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭ASoberThought


    No I don't..
    I remember this being discussed before and people said that you probably have that feeling many times when people aren't looking at you but you forget about those times, only remembering when you're right. Personally I just think that's an easy way to dismiss the phenomena.

    I also agree it's just an easy way to dismiss it. I remember reading that in certain security training they should avoid directly staring at an individual's back when tracking them to avoid giving them the sense of being follwed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    No I don't..
    I also agree it's just an easy way to dismiss it. I remember reading that in certain security training that when they are tracking sone body they are instructed not to stare at the persons back as it may give them a sense that they are being follwed.

    It's like when you can just tell someone is looking over your shoulder at you texting or when you're reading a newspaper. You can't physically see them do it, or hear them but it's a vibe you get. Not something you can really put into words. Say this to people and they immediately have you down as someone who believes in homeopathy and star signs. Such a Capricorn thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭ASoberThought


    No I don't..
    It's like when you can just tell someone is looking over your shoulder at you texting or when you're reading a newspaper. You can't physically see them do it, or hear them but it's a vibe you get. Not something you can really put into words. Say this to people and they immediately have you down as someone who believes in homeopathy and star signs. Such a Capricorn thing to do.

    Yep, I think there is something to it and have enjoyed Rupert Sheldrakes inquiry into these sort of phenomena. I know I've mentioned him a few times at this stage but he's a good guy :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Not sure, perhaps, maybe, possible I suppose, undecided I guess..
    I remember this being discussed before and people said that you probably have that feeling many times when people aren't looking at you but you forget about those times, only remembering when you're right. Personally I just think that's an easy way to dismiss the phenomena.

    You seem to want to believe in fairy tales.

    There's one scientific reason you might notice people staring at you. Your peripheral vision records more info than the brain displays. In particular quick movement just behind your 180 deg. vision can be sensed, as well as movement that stops. Someone turning to stare at you or stopping to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    No I don't..
    You seem to want to believe in fairy tales.

    There's one scientific reason you might notice people staring at you. Your peripheral vision records more info than the brain displays. In particular quick movement just behind your 180 deg. vision can be sensed, as well as movement that stops. Someone turning to stare at you or stopping to.

    Maybe you should read people's posts more thoroughly. I was specifically talking about situations where you can't physically see them and so no fairy tale beliefs needed.


    It's also interesting that the overwhelming majority of people that posted on the thread so far seem to dismiss the notion of humans having a sixth sense but yet over 60% of the people who voted definitively in the poll think the opposite.

    Just shows you how taboo it is to admit to such beliefs today. The social narrative is controlled in a way.

    If I'd made the poll anonymous it could possibly have been an even higher number.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Maybe you should read people's posts more thoroughly. I was specifically talking about situations where you can't physically see them.


    It's also interesting that the overwhelming majority of people that posted on the thread so far seem to dismiss the notion of humans having a sixth sense but yet over 60% of the people who voted definitively in the poll think the opposite.

    Just shows you how taboo it is to admit to such beliefs today. The social narrative is controlled in a way.

    If I'd made the poll anonymous it could possibly have been an even bigger number.
    The e is nowhere near enough researched about human mind. I think it is quite possible that something we class as sixth sense exist but there is perfectly logical biological/psychological explanation for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    No I don't..
    meeeeh wrote: »
    The e is nowhere near enough researched about human mind. I think it is quite possible that something we class as sixth sense exist but there is perfectly logical biological/psychological explanation for it.

    I absolutely think that there is a biological/psychological explanation for the vast majority of what people would suggest were examples of esp / premonitions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Couldn't what's called the sixth sense just be all the other senses combined.

    senses can influence eachother, I think wearing shades increasing hearing etc so combined senses could be studied as an experience the same way individual senses are.

    No mystery, just science waiting to be unfolded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    catbear wrote: »
    Couldn't what's called the sixth sense just be all the other senses combined.

    senses can influence eachother, I think wearing shades increasing hearing etc so combined senses could be studied as an experience the same way individual senses are.

    It could. Lighting fire used to be gift from the gods until we learned how to make fire, we also had to understand how lightning works. Brain is a part of human body which is still far from understood. There is no magic sense, but there is a chance our senses act or indeed combine in way we don't yet understand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Not sure, perhaps, maybe, possible I suppose, undecided I guess..
    Maybe you should read people's posts more thoroughly. I was specifically talking about situations where you can't physically see them and so no fairy tale beliefs needed.

    So was I. Maybe you should read my post again.

    it is also interesting that the overwhelming majority of people that posted on the thread so far seem to dismiss the notion of humans having a sixth sense but yet over 60% of the people who voted definitively in the poll think the opposite.

    Just shows you how taboo it is to admit to such beliefs today. The social narrative is controlled in a way.

    If I'd made the poll anonymous it could possibly have been an even higher number.

    Or the people who are pro "6th sense" can't reasonably articulate their position.

    The problem with 6th sensers is you don't want an explanation. You just want magic. So scientific explanations or probabilistic/ statistical answers don't impres you – you just want to believe in something that can't and shouldn't be explained.

    You had a dream about a boardsie. He replied to a post. Magic. That's it. The people debunking the "magic" idea (what you call a 6th sense) are actually trying to give explanations. It's not actually a debunking.

    For instance I agree that we can tell if someone is staring at us from behind our back and I have a scientific explanation for that - we pick up environmental signals from movement or lack of it behind us from our extra-peripheral vision, and are aware of changes in air pressure and sound etc. No magic required.

    Other people have explained why you remember your dream about the boards members. You dream lots of dreams, most you will forget a few moments after waking up, some will have coincidences ( And someone pointed out that whey we think are rare low probability events are more common than we think), and some of those dreams with similarities to real life will be remembered. Precisely because they have those points of commonality.

    What other solution is there? Your mind can read the future and uses it to obliquely tell you what boards member is going to reply to you at 9am?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    No I don't..
    catbear wrote: »
    No mystery, just science waiting to be unfolded.

    What are you on about? Something happening is just science waiting to be unfolded? Good grief. When will this science sycophancy end. Don't you people realise that science is just a tool?

    I was walking past three lads the other night who were starring at the night sky and they were marveling at how bright the stars were and the last thing I heard one of them say was "Oh I love Science, look at the amount of stars" as if Science is what gave them to us, rather than was just something which we use to study them. A bloody tool that lets us test explanations and theories. It's happening more and more in films lately too. It won't be long before people start getting the word Science tattoo'd on them, enveloped by a love heart.

    Not that I don't appreciate all that has been garnered via scientific methods. I do of course.

    But I also appreciate big boobs, doesn't mean I'm gonna get obsessed with measuring tapes though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭ASoberThought


    No I don't..
    Science is a method of inquiry that has become a religion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    What are you on about? Something happening is just science waiting to be unfolded? Good grief. When will this science sycophancy end. Don't you people realise that science is just a tool?

    I was walking past three lads the other night who were starring at the night sky and they were marveling at how bright the stars were and the last thing I heard one of them say was "Oh I love Science, look at the amount of stars" as if Science is what gave them to us, rather than was just something which we use to study them. A bloody tool that lets us test explanations and theories. It's happening more and more in films lately too. It won't be long before people start getting the word Science tattoo'd on them, enveloped by a love heart.

    Not that I don't appreciate all that has been garnered via scientific methods. I do of course.

    But I also appreciate big boobs, doesn't mean I'm gonna get obsessed with measuring tapes though.
    People are stating their preference for exploring their existence through science over past methods.

    You might like tits but you don't have to be one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Not sure, perhaps, maybe, possible I suppose, undecided I guess..
    What are you on about? Something happening is just science waiting to be unfolded? Good grief. When will this science sycophancy end. Don't you people realise that science is just a tool?

    something unexplained needs an reasonable explanation.

    As I said you don't want explanations. You get angry with explanations. It's just magic.


  • Posts: 114 ✭✭ Ashlyn Spoiled Glassware


    Knowing what was going to happen before it happen save my life, not going to go into detail about it but just to say the sixth sense does come in handy every now and then, its like a split second decision where you remember something that show you a moment you're just about to enter into, not really sure if that is the best way to describe it but thats close to the way it happen on that particular moment for me, although i suppose many would say most people would get that feeling due to fear but this split second decision wasn't base on fear it was base on a warning sign i had a few hours earlier, which thankfully i remembered, common sense really.

    So yeah i believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Not sure, perhaps, maybe, possible I suppose, undecided I guess..
    If I had a magic brain that magically told the future with its magic dreaming I too would get pissed if all my magic brain could tell was who was going to reply to me on boards rather than the euro millions.

    This might explain the OP's upset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I was walking past three lads the other night who were starring at the night sky and they were marveling at how bright the stars were and the last thing I heard one of them say was "Oh I love Science, look at the amount of stars" as if Science is what gave them to us, rather than was just something which we use to study them. A bloody tool that lets us test explanations and theories. It's happening more and more in films lately too. It won't be long before people start getting the word Science tattoo'd on them, enveloped by a love heart.

    I suppose what they're trying to convey is "I love that I know what stars are and thus can marvel at the vastness of the universe and comprehend how it came to be. I'm overcome with a sense of wonder when I gaze into the abyss and consider all the myriad worlds that must revolve around these distant pinpricks of light, all the many vistas that I will never get to see, the innumerable events that have unfolded both here and out there across the aeons to take us to this moment. It provokes in me a feeling of profound insignificance, whilst simultaneously thrusting on me an appreciation that I am a part of something immeasurably awesome."

    But it's easier to just say "I love science" and sounds less gay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Not sure, perhaps, maybe, possible I suppose, undecided I guess..
    I suppose what they're trying to convey is "I love that I know what stars are and thus can marvel at the vastness of the universe and comprehend how it came to be. I'm overcome with a sense of wonder when I gaze into the abyss and consider all the myriad worlds that must revolve around these distant pinpricks of light, all the many vistas that I will never get to see, the innumerable events that have unfolded both here and out there across the aeons to take us to this moment. It provokes in me a feeling of profound insignificance, whilst simultaneously thrusting on me an appreciation that I am a part of something immeasurably awesome."

    But it's easier to just say "I love science" and sounds less gay.

    True. Until I learned what stars were they were just pretty dots in the sky. When I learned what they were the stars, the planets and the smudge that is the Milky Way became much more beautiful, imposing and awesome.

    That's the kind of mystery that science brings to society. It's often accused of removing mystery, however.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    It is mindblowing to look up at two stars that seem to be near eachother could actually be as far apart as the nearest one is to us.

    I always feel calm when overpowered by my enormities of space or when I'm in a well stock bookshop with loads of back editions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    As Sherlock Holmes once put it,

    "No ghosts need apply"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Do I believe Humans have a sixth sense? Yes, I do. Balance, the ability to differentiate between hot and cold, pain, hunger... We have lots of senses.

    Do I believe we're psychic? No, because it isn't demonstrable, it's not quantifiable, and always come in the form of confirmation biased "well I know a guy whose cousin dreamt of her own death" nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭Corpus Twisty


    Do I believe Humans have a sixth sense? Yes, I do. Balance, the ability to differentiate between hot and cold, pain, hunger... We have lots of senses.

    Do I believe we're psychic? No, because it isn't demonstrable, it's not quantifiable, and always come in the form of confirmation biased "well I know a guy whose cousin dreamt of her own death" nonsense.

    I knew you were going to post that before you posted it. I used my sixth sense. My sense of pre-post-I-know-what-they'll-post-ery. *


    *may not be true.


  • Posts: 114 ✭✭ Ashlyn Spoiled Glassware


    Do I believe Humans have a sixth sense? Yes, I do. Balance, the ability to differentiate between hot and cold, pain, hunger... We have lots of senses.

    Do I believe we're psychic? No, because it isn't demonstrable, it's not quantifiable, and always come in the form of confirmation biased "well I know a guy whose cousin dreamt of her own death" nonsense.

    Call it what you want believe what you want but unless you haven't experienced it then naturally you have that right to dismiss and believe what you want.

    I think :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Do I believe Humans have a sixth sense? Yes, I do. Balance, the ability to differentiate between hot and cold, pain, hunger... We have lots of senses.

    Do I believe we're psychic? No, because it isn't demonstrable, it's not quantifiable, and always come in the form of confirmation biased "well I know a guy whose cousin dreamt of her own death" nonsense.

    Yup that's basically it.

    Anyway this whole science thing is entertaining. I'm not knocking it but I have only interest in fluffier parts. I find things like how human mind operates or how society functions incredibly interesting but a car engine just has to start. For what I care there could be little elves peddling under the bonnet of my car and as long as they keep doing it, I don't care.

    It's easy to spot Google experts (science lovers). I remember someone starting to explain to me what Oedipus complex at a party. Firstly who doesn't know what Oedipus complex is and secondly I read the fecken play from which the term originates. I think it's great if people are interested into different things but I prefer to get some decent gossip when out than listening to someone trying very hard to impress others with their knowledge of, I don know, incest. It's a lot more fun when people are their own dumb selves and just stick to things that actually interest them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Call it what you want believe what you want but unless you haven't experienced it then naturally you have that right to dismiss and believe what you want.

    I think :confused:

    I think that prehistoric people who experienced lightning also thought there is this magic higher force in nature. Now we know it's called electricity. What we experience is completely subjective and unreliable. The question is if and how can it be explained.


  • Posts: 114 ✭✭ Ashlyn Spoiled Glassware


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think that prehistoric people who experienced lightning also thought there is this magic higher force in nature. Now we know it's called electricity. What we experience is completely subjective and unreliable. The question is if and how can it be explained.

    True very true but not everyone discovered electricity until it could be explained and proving to be beneficial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    No I don't..
    I'm not sure if I'd call it a sixth sense as such, but I do believe we have the ability to perceive things on levels we don't fully (or in some cases partially) understand yet.

    I once heard Russell Brand explain it like this - human beings are only able to hear sound within a certain range (dogs can hear higher sounds than us), and we are only able to perceive light in relation to a certain amount of colours, whereas there is a type of fish that can see hundreds of colours. But the fact that we can't currently perceive those sounds or colours doesn't mean they don't exist. Our perception of what reality is is extremely limited.

    I've taken acid in my younger days and remember all sense of perception being bent and twisted in different, magical ways. So I think humans have different senses, we just haven't unlocked them - but some are closer than others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Not sure, perhaps, maybe, possible I suppose, undecided I guess..
    No it's total and utter bollocks, and anyone who believes in it does so based on nothing - and just wants to to make them feel better or hear what they want ..


  • Posts: 114 ✭✭ Ashlyn Spoiled Glassware


    No it's total and utter bollocks, and anyone who believes in it does so based on nothing - and just wants to to make them feel better or hear what they want ..


    Yeah true but as i said it does come in handy, oh really no reality ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    No I don't..
    No it's total and utter bollocks, and anyone who believes in it does so based on nothing - and just wants to to make them feel better or hear what they want ..

    How are you so sure? There are so many gaps in what science can explain.


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