Where do you fall on the Kinsey Scale?

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 12:25PM

Larry the Logster wrote: »

I don't get it, can you explain it to me?

Peregrine was told that his sexuality is as solid as the polar ice caps, no fluidity whereas mine is as fluid as it gets, so we're exact opposites or as the saying goes, polar opposites

It isn't funny when I have to explain it!

Well ok, maybe it isn't funny anyway but it made me laugh and that's the important thing

Log9 · 27-12-2015 12:33PM

Yay I got: Equal parts homosexual and heterosexual. Quite accurate too.

"At times, you’ve found yourself drawn to different types of people: gay, straight, male, female, and whatever else. Your sexuality is about as fluid as it gets, and it’ll probably remain so as long as you’re having sexual impulses."

...

I have to say though as much as it sounds great, the down side is that I always found it tough as I've had a few incidents of gay guys treating me as either a traitor to the cause, confused or a closet case. I'm none of those.

I never felt I had the backup of the gay community growing up and didn't really socialise at LGBT stuff in my younger years. That probably wasn't a great thing for me as I could have done with the network.

Also I had a straight female partner's friends try to blame this on me breaking up with her. We broke up for other reasons. I was never one to hide being bi but I got a few very nasty and very hurtful comments about "leading her up the garden path" and even one just plain homophobic jibe.

I've had this all through my life from various people of both orientations. People have to start accepting that bi people exist. I'm not ever going to apologise for my orientation and I can be deeply into men or women.

I really get a bit fed up with people thinking I'm just confused or that you're just not accepting that you're gay.

iguana · 27-12-2015 12:42PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

though being bi-sexual myself I find it difficult to comprehend, surely there are just degrees of bi-sexuality?

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

Maximus Alexander · 27-12-2015 12:54PM

iguana wrote: »

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

I agree. I don't think people realise that telling someone "Ah sure you must be a little bit bi at least, you're only codding yourself" is similar to telling a bi person "Sure you're only being greedy, you don't really fancy both sexes." It's pretty insulting.

LeBash · 27-12-2015 01:01PM

It says I'm straighter than a guy wearing black socks and sandals. I am wearing black socks and cross though so it's safe to say, straight or gay I'm pure style!

Oh and just realised the zipper in my shorts was down

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 01:06PM

iguana wrote: »

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

I did say that I do respect people if they identify as 100% gay or straight, even if I find it difficult to comprehend myself.

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 01:09PM

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Straight as a ruler as expected, the only homosexual sex I want to be involved with is 2 girls in a threesome :pac:

Not a thinly veiled thread to suss out who is available for a threesome, not at all, no

Wibbs · 27-12-2015 01:21PM

Swanner wrote: »

Sure some of these people may be bi without realising it yet but you're assumptions of them are based solely on your own projections and have absolutely nothing to do with the individuals you seem determined to label as "bi".

Common enough nonsense to hear though. Smug nonsense with it. Especially to be heard from bisexuals and free love types. Naturally. As people tend to be inherently self centred, they assume others to be thinking along similar lines as themselves. I've rarely heard it from gay or straight folks. They're not "fluid" so again projecting their own assumptions on the world they don't make the leap that others might be.

That said I have found that bisexual folks can really get stick from all sides, from both gay and straight people. Again the projection. They can be seen as either sexual tourists or not admitting their "real" sexuality.

Kinsey was a bit of a chancer anyway. Brave for the time, but a chancer nonetheless. His methodology was decidedly dodgy and therefore his conclusions were.

Wibbs · 27-12-2015 01:25PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

Not a thinly veiled thread to suss out who is available for a threesome, not at all, no

Speaking as a straight man that whole two women thing never appealed, funny enough. Apparently it's "supposed" to, but it doesn't. Sure, two naked attractive women in front of me will rev my engine, but going at each other eh… nope. TBH it looks odd to me, just like two men does. Meh whatever floats your boat and greases your wheels and oils your axle etc.

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 01:42PM

Swanner wrote: »

Lots more assumptions here although at least you are respectful to others while making them.

Why do you think everyone is bi ?

I'll explain my reasoning below

iguana wrote: »

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

You see, for me, I can't understand how a woman who is perfectly clean can be as repulsive to you as a man with poor hygiene who is lecherous and has just soiled himself. I know you were probably exaggerating for hyperbole but I can understand being indifferent to her attractiveness, but being as repulsed by this woman as you are by this man? I don't understand it, I accept it, and that's how you feel and I believe that's how you feel and I'm not going to tell you how to feel.

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I agree. I don't think people realise that telling someone "Ah sure you must be a little bit bi at least, you're only codding yourself" is similar to telling a bi person "Sure you're only being greedy, you don't really fancy both sexes." It's pretty insulting.

I would never tell someone that they are only codding themselves, I'd tell them that I believe that most people are bi-sexual to some degree, and that could be 98% straight and 2% bi, I'm not saying that the attraction is equal or would be anywhere near it at all. I just struggle with the dichotomy of 100% gay or straight, I admit that, I'd even accept 99.9% straight or gay. I think most people have the ability to be attracted to both sexes, but are predominantly gay or straight, and some then would be more bi-sexual.

Wibbs wrote: »

Common enough nonsense to hear though. Smug nonsense with it. Especially to be heard from bisexuals and free love types. Naturally. As people tend to be inherently self centred, they assume others to be thinking along similar lines as themselves. I've rarely heard it from gay or straight folks. They're not "fluid" so again projecting their own assumptions on the world they don't make the leap that others might be.

That said I have found that bisexual folks can really get stick from all sides, from both gay and straight people. Again the projection. They can be seen as either sexual tourists or not admitting their "real" sexuality.

Kinsey was a bit of a chancer anyway. Brave for the time, but a chancer nonetheless. His methodology was decidedly dodgy and therefore his conclusions were.

Perhaps it is my own self-centred projections, perhaps I just can't comprehend anything outside of my own sexuality. I should have phrased it better when I responded to taxAHcruel, but I do believe the majority of people are capable of having sexual feelings for the same sex, it might never happen to them, but I believe it is in the realms of possibility. This is anecdotal I know, but my partner was 28 when we met and she had never had sex or even kissed another woman, or fantasised about one, and here she is in a civil partnership with me, sexuality is fluid and it can change over time. I am making generalisations, I am not talking about every single person on this planet.

I have had many people dismiss my own sexuality and tell me that it doesn't exist, that I am greedy, that I am on the fence, that I'm gay and I can't come out of the closet, that I'm an opportunist, that I'll just go home with whoever is available, I've heard it all. I apologise if I made gay or straight people feel like this with my own comments, as that wasn't my intention and I wouldn't want to patronise someone or tell them how they should feel about their own sexuality.

Agricola · 27-12-2015 01:45PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Speaking as a straight man that whole two women thing never appealed, funny enough. Apparently it's "supposed" to, but it doesn't. Sure, two naked attractive women in front of me will rev my engine, but going at each other eh… nope. TBH it looks odd to me, just like two men does. Meh whatever floats your boat and greases your wheels and oils your axle etc.

Yeah but double the ass and boobies surely Wibbs.

*how do like it, how do you like it, more more more, how do you like it....*

The Randy Riverbeast · 27-12-2015 01:50PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

Not a thinly veiled thread to suss out who is available for a threesome, not at all, no

My inbox is overflowing from couples looking for a stallion :pac:

Randy isn't a name

Galwayguy35 · 27-12-2015 01:57PM

Told me I like the ladies which was no great surprise to me.

I really don't get this idea that gets thrown about that there might be some bi sexuality in all of us.

The thought of doing anything sexually with a fella would make me physically sick.

mr.anonymous · 27-12-2015 01:57PM

Strictly homosexual, just like my internet history. Women are the nicer sex but only men excite my purple headed warrior.

iguana · 27-12-2015 02:25PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

You see, for me, I can't understand how a woman who is perfectly clean can be as repulsive to you as a man with poor hygiene who is lecherous and has just soiled himself. I know you were probably exaggerating for hyperbole but I can understand being indifferent to her attractiveness, but being as repulsed by this woman as you are by this man? I don't understand it, I accept it, and that's how you feel and I believe that's how you feel and I'm not going to tell you how to feel.

No, I'm definitely not exaggerating. I'm not indifferent to a beautiful woman. I can look at her and appreciate her beauty, her sexiness, her charisma, etc in the same way that I'd appreciate a beautiful artwork, a stunning sunset, a handsome dog, etc. But the thought of having sex with her is utterly repulsive (just like it would be with the handsome dog).

Nodin · 27-12-2015 02:26PM

Gaygooner wrote: »

I'm super Gay!

Flying extravagantly through the air?

27-12-2015 02:30PM

iguana wrote: »

No, I'm definitely not exaggerating. I'm not indifferent to a beautiful woman. I can look at her and appreciate her beauty, her sexiness, her charisma, etc in the same way that I'd appreciate a beautiful artwork, a stunning sunset, a handsome dog, etc. But the thought of having sex with her is utterly repulsive (just like it would be with the handsome dog).

I'm black socks and sandals straight.

I have to say though, the thought of sex with a woman doesn't repulse me. I'm just completely uninterested in it.

I don't think everyone is either a bit bi or in denial about it, but I think that would be hard to get your head around if you were bi.

I wouldn't say that everyone who is bi is a gay person in denial, but it would basically be the same argument.

Wibbs · 27-12-2015 02:35PM

Agricola wrote: »

Yeah but double the ass and boobies surely Wibbs.

Not really. One after the other, yea, for variety like, but not at the same time.

Medusa22 wrote: »

You see, for me, I can't understand how a woman who is perfectly clean can be as repulsive to you as a man with poor hygiene who is lecherous and has just soiled himself. I know you were probably exaggerating for hyperbole but I can understand being indifferent to her attractiveness, but being as repulsed by this woman as you are by this man?

Because the thought of being sexually involved with a woman repulses her, just as the though of being sexually involved with a man repulses me as a straight man. There are plenty of gay men and women that the thoughts of heterosexual sex repulses them too BTW. Sadly for too many of them especially in the past they often had to try it to "pass for normal". I couldn't begin to imagine living in a world like that, where I'd have to have a boyfriend to "fit in", or even to avoid violence or gaol. Jesus.

I would never tell someone that they are only codding themselves,

OK and that's cool.

I'd tell them that I believe that most people are bi-sexual to some degree, and that could be 98% straight and 2% bi, I'm not saying that the attraction is equal or would be anywhere near it at all. I just struggle with the dichotomy of 100% gay or straight, I admit that, I'd even accept 99.9% straight or gay. I think most people have the ability to be attracted to both sexes, but are predominantly gay or straight, and some then would be more bi-sexual.

… and yet you continue to peddle the notion that 100% gay or straight isn't quite correct*.

Perhaps it is my own self-centred projections, perhaps I just can't comprehend anything outside of my own sexuality.

Bingo on both counts.

but I do believe the majority of people are capable of having sexual feelings for the same sex, it might never happen to them, but I believe it is in the realms of possibility.

and yet here you go again .

I can understand being gay far more than I can understand being bi TBH. I can understand that in another universe there's a me where my focus on women was flipped to be focused on men. I get that. It's just a mirror image of my experience. However, though I don't understand being bi on that level, I acknowledge some folks are bisexual and fair play. I do not assume to suggest that actually they're more likely to be straight/gay. TBH I do feel it's one reason bisexuals do get stick from all sides, because they make these assumptions either as you have, but you do explain your reasoning, or worse as earlier TaxAH does as apparently a way to wind people up.

*experimentally it seems women may be more bisexual. A few studies have shown that straight me get aroused from looking at straight sexual imagery, gay men from looking at gay sexual imagery. That seems broadly true for straight and gay women, but the women were more likely to be subconsciously aroused by any sexual imagery. The conclusion being that women's sexuality was more fluid. Or that could be cultural expectation and the arousal is an evolutionary defence against physical damage in sexual assault.

Maximus Alexander · 27-12-2015 02:39PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

I would never tell someone that they are only codding themselves, I'd tell them that I believe that most people are bi-sexual to some degree, and that could be 98% straight and 2% bi, I'm not saying that the attraction is equal or would be anywhere near it at all. I just struggle with the dichotomy of 100% gay or straight, I admit that, I'd even accept 99.9% straight or gay. I think most people have the ability to be attracted to both sexes, but are predominantly gay or straight, and some then would be more bi-sexual.

What do you base this belief on though? Because I can tell you that it is definitely incorrect. I just don't understand why you would have any cause to doubt what someone reports to you about their own sexuality.

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 02:46PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Because the thought of being sexually involved with a woman repulses her, just as the though of being sexually involved with a man repulses me as a straight man. There are plenty of gay men and women that the thoughts of heterosexual sex repulses them too BTW. Sadly for too many of them especially in the past they often had to try it to "pass for normal". I couldn't begin to imagine living in a world like that, where I'd have to have a boyfriend to "fit in", or even to avoid violence or gaol. Jesus.

Fair enough, some people are repulsed by the idea of having sex with someone of the same sex, I will accept that.

Wibbs wrote: »

OK and that's cool. … and yet you continue to peddle the notion that 100% gay or straight isn't quite correct*.

I did say ''I believe'' indicating that it is my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. I didn't say correct or incorrect, I said that I believe most people to be either predominantly gay or straight but with some bi-sexual tendencies.

Wibbs wrote: »

I can understand being gay far more than I can understand being bi TBH. I can understand that in another universe there's a me where my focus on women was flipped to be focused on men. I get that. It's just a mirror image of my experience. However, though I don't understand being bi on that level, I acknowledge some folks are bisexual and fair play. I do not assume to suggest that actually they're more likely to be straight/gay. TBH I do feel it's one reason bisexuals do get stick from all sides, because they make these assumptions either as you have, but you do explain your reasoning, or worse as earlier TaxAH does as apparently a way to wind people up.

Hang on a second, so you can understand being gay far more than you can understand being bi, but somehow it's unacceptable to you that I can understand being bi more than I can understand being gay or straight? In fact you acknowledge that some people are bi and fair play, and I have said previously that I accept that people are gay and straight, just that I believe most people to be somewhere on the bi spectrum. All of the stick I received was not because I told people my opinion of bi-sexuality, in fact I usually just receive it for stating that I am bi-sexual and these people don't believe that it exists.

27-12-2015 02:47PM

If people said that gay men just "hadn't met the right woman yet" there would be absolute uproar over it. But it's ok to say that straight men just haven't met the right man yet?

Double standards at play here lads.

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 02:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If people said that gay men just "hadn't met the right woman yet" there would be absolute uproar over it. But it's ok to say that straight men just haven't met the right man yet?

Double standards at play here lads.

I'm not saying that they haven't met the right man yet, I'm saying that it is possible (or I believe it to be possible) that they could one day meet a man that they are attracted to.

eviltwin · 27-12-2015 02:50PM

Equally hetero and homo so bisexual I suppose which is accurate. I've had relations with both men and women but fell in love with a man and we've been together so long I appear straight but I'd have more sexual fantasies about women than men.

27-12-2015 02:51PM

I think most people find their own experience and it's polar opposite much easier to understand than a more fluid or central orientation that encompasses attraction to both sexes. It makes perfect sense that Medusa finds it easier to imagine people being even slightly bi to some degree than not at all by the same token given her own experience.

It's just perspective, there's no need for the defensiveness or annoyance.

27-12-2015 02:52PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

I'm not saying that they haven't met the right man yet, I'm saying that it is possible (or I believe it to be possible) that they could one day meet a man that they are attracted to.

Another poster said that they just haven't met the right person yet.

CyclopsDeluxe · 27-12-2015 02:52PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

What do you base this belief on though? Because I can tell you that it is definitely incorrect. I just don't understand why you would have any cause to doubt what someone reports to you about their own sexuality.

I'd say because being bi or gay is still "against the norm" for many people and it is much easier to stick to the acceptable option than dealing with possible uncomfortable reactions. I doubt it would go down too well if a guy in a GAA club somewhere in the middle of nowhere was to announce that he was gay/ bi/ whatever.

indioblack · 27-12-2015 02:53PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

Well, I posted about this in the LGBT forum a while back but I thought that AH could be an interesting place for this thread too.

The Kinsey Scale is a rather rudimentary test to determine where you fall on the gay/straight continuum.

So, people of AH, here is a quiz you can take if you want to find out!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/lets-talk-about-sex#.oqjGvamd2

I got equal parts homo and heterosexual and I consider myself bi-sexual so that makes sense to me.

I believe that sexuality is on a spectrum and that people are either gay, straight or somewhere between the two.

Oh goody, I'm normal.
I am.
No, really, I am.
Just got to figure out what normal is.

Ficheall · 27-12-2015 03:10PM

Medusa22 wrote: »

I did say ''I believe'' indicating that it is my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. I didn't say correct or incorrect, I said that I believe most people to be either predominantly gay or straight but with some bi-sexual tendencies.

I believe you're talking out your arse.

Medusa22 wrote: »

Hang on a second, so you can understand being gay far more than you can understand being bi, but somehow it's unacceptable to you that I can understand being bi more than I can understand being gay or straight? In fact you acknowledge that some people are bi and fair play, and I have said previously that I accept that people are gay and straight, just that I believe most people to be somewhere on the bi spectrum. All of the stick I received was not because I told people my opinion of bi-sexuality, in fact I usually just receive it for stating that I am bi-sexual and these people don't believe that it exists.

Most of the stick you're getting here is because you're saying most people are bisexual. And you're saying they probably just don't know it. It's pretty insulting/bigoted - in my opinion.

Medusa22 · 27-12-2015 03:19PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I believe you're talking out your arse.

I won't say what I want to say about that comment or I will be banned

Most of the stick you're getting here is because you're saying most people are bisexual. And you're saying they probably just don't know it. It's pretty insulting/bigoted - in my opinion.

I am saying that most people are predominantly gay or straight but with some homosexual/heterosexual tendencies to varying degrees, I don't believe this to be a very controversial statement. Sexuality is fluid, most people are aware of this, most people are not 100% gay or straight but fall somewhere on the spectrum, and like I said previously that could be 99.9 gay or straight, and as I have said, it is MOST people, not all.

KERSPLAT! · 27-12-2015 03:21PM

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Keep it civil please, folks. Thanks.

Where do you fall on the Kinsey Scale?

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