Where do you fall on the Kinsey Scale?

Medusa22

Well, I posted about this in the LGBT forum a while back but I thought that AH could be an interesting place for this thread too.

The Kinsey Scale is a rather rudimentary test to determine where you fall on the gay/straight continuum.

So, people of AH, here is a quiz you can take if you want to find out!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/lets-talk-about-sex#.oqjGvamd2

I got equal parts homo and heterosexual and I consider myself bi-sexual so that makes sense to me.

I believe that sexuality is on a spectrum and that people are either gay, straight or somewhere between the two.

Gaygooner

I'm super Gay!

Peregrine

You got: Strictly heterosexual.

You’re straighter than a ruler wearing black socks with sandals. Every sexual thought you’ve ever had has been for a member of the other sex, and that’ll probably never change. Your sexuality is about as fluid as the polar ice caps.

I wouldn't argue with that.

Medusa22

Peregrine wrote: »

I wouldn't argue with that.

I got that my sexuality is as fluid as it gets, so I am your polar opposite, do you get it? :pac:

Medusa22

Medusa22 wrote: »

I believe that sexuality is on a spectrum and that people are either gay, straight or somewhere between the two.

Mainly just for fun - I believe that EVERYONE is bi - but some people are just pickier than others. So those people who believe themselves to be straight - have just failed to meet someone who tickles their bells yet

Given both of my GFs identify as straight but still fall into bed with each other at every opportunity they serve only to reinforce sticking my tongue firmly into the side of my mouth.

But tongue back where it belongs - I believe so so many things lie on a continuum - or as you said spectrum - that we do not realise. Because as a species we seem really REALLY compelled to put everything into neat little boxes. Even when they do not fit.

circadian

"You got: Equal parts homosexual and heterosexual.

At times, you’ve found yourself drawn to different types of people: gay, straight, male, female, and whatever else. Your sexuality is about as fluid as it gets, and it’ll probably remain so as long as you’re having sexual impulses."

Grand so.

Medusa22

Deleted User wrote: »

Mainly just for fun - I believe that EVERYONE is bi - but some people are just pickier than others. So those people who believe themselves to be straight - have just failed to meet someone who tickles their bells yet

Given both of my GFs identify as straight but still fall into bed with each other at every opportunity they serve only to reinforce sticking my tongue firmly into the side of my mouth.

But tongue back where it belongs - I believe so so many things lie on a continuum - or as you said spectrum - that we do not realise. Because as a species we seem really REALLY compelled to put everything into neat little boxes. Even when they do not fit.

I tend to agree with you that the majority of people, if not all, are to some degree or extent bi-sexual, but some people are adamant that they are 100% gay or 100% straight and I try to respect that, though being bi-sexual myself I find it difficult to comprehend, surely there are just degrees of bi-sexuality?

Schwiiing

I'm not on the scale at all apparently.

You got: Not really heterosexual or homosexual.

You don’t necessarily fall on the spectrum of sexuality, which is okay. Sexuality doesn’t have to be strictly one thing or another thing, and there are plenty of people out there who experience sexual feelings in unique ways, or perhaps don’t experience sexual feelings at all.

Peregrine

Medusa22 wrote: »

I got that my sexuality is as fluid as it gets, so I am your polar opposite, do you get it? :pac:

Get your coat :P

Medusa22

Peregrine wrote: »

Get your coat :P

Because I've pulled?? :pac:

The Randy Riverbeast

Straight as a ruler as expected, the only homosexual sex I want to be involved with is 2 girls in a threesome :pac:

PLL

Very accurate for me.


You got: Mostly heterosexual.

You’re mostly straight, but you’re open to new ideas and experiences. Maybe you’ve had a passing thought or fantasy, and maybe you’ve actually thought about pursuing those impulses. Your sexuality is definitely a little more fluid than most.

Right Turn Clyde

Are you sure this was developed by Alfred Kinsey?

"Sometimes someone of the same sex sneaks in there."

It sounds more like Aziz Ansari.

Ficheall

It's like the Simpsons' career guidance quiz.
"First question-- ''If I could be any animal, I would be: A) a carpenter ant a nurse shark or, C) a lawyer bird."

To perhaps save someone else the trouble of wasting data opening the page, the questions run:
Who do you find attractive?
Who have you had sex with?
Who do you have sexual fantasies about?
With whom do you form strong emotional bonds?
Who do you feel most comfortable socializing with?
Think about people you socialize with most often. How do you think they would identify?
How would you identify yourself to others?
What do you think of yourself as?

I realise that I'm strictly heterosexual and have been fortunate never to have had any concerns* about my sexuality, but Jesus Christ, what a bollocks quiz.
I hope this isn't the original "research" piece Kinsey presented...



*Not saying there's anything wrong with not being heterosexual, but I realise it can be more confusing and concerning for some people.

Medusa22

Medusa22 wrote: »

I tend to agree with you that the majority of people, if not all, are to some degree or extent bi-sexual, but some people are adamant that they are 100% gay or 100% straight and I try to respect that, though being bi-sexual myself I find it difficult to comprehend, surely there are just degrees of bi-sexuality?

I agree too. But there is some fun to be had by suggesting to them that they just have not met the right person yet

And who knows - that might even be correct. Which Annoys them no end

I myself try to view the word without "sex" and just let myself be attracted to the people - or "souls" - that excite me. But we are in a species that finds it hard to see past "sex" and other such neat little boxes. And as a result I am probably not the best example given how it ended up

But tongue back out of cheek - back out of the OTHER cheek - and stop it flailing around - any scale that suggests a single linear continuum is going to fail in the first place.

Ten of Swords

The Kinsey scale is probably the most well known of it's kind but it is far from the best or most indicative, a major weakness of it is inability to handle the varying strength of attractions to either sex and it makes no allowance for asexuality either. Others like the Storms scale or the Klein grid or are much better.

More recently the Purple-Red scale appeared on Reddit.

The_Valeyard

Schwiiing wrote: »

I'm not on the scale at all apparently.

You got: Not really heterosexual or homosexual.

You don’t necessarily fall on the spectrum of sexuality, which is okay. Sexuality doesn’t have to be strictly one thing or another thing, and there are plenty of people out there who experience sexual feelings in unique ways, or perhaps don’t experience sexual feelings at all.

Are you some sort of plant?

Kylo Ren

I got Charizard. Nice. He's my favourite.

Samaris

How about adding a poll to the thread with options from 1-5 plus Asexual?

I'm going to bet that I get a 2 (Mostly het) on this quiz.

Huh. I got a middle-of-the-road 3, equal parts homo/heterosexual. And yet, I'd say I've got a strong element of asexual in there too. Contradictory maybe, but who ever said human sexuality made sense?

The Bishop Basher

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I agree too. But there is some fun to be had by suggesting to them that they just have not met the right person yet

And who knows - that might even be correct. Which Annoys them no end

Yes. Making assumptions about other peoples sexuality and then trying to ram your view of their sexuality down their throats would tend to annoy people alright.

Also you say we rely too much on labels yet you're labelling everyone as bi and taking enjoyment from the reaction of those that aren't...

I also believe that human sexuality exists on a wide spectrum and individuals can fall anywhere on that spectrum. That means some people will be 100% hetero or gay. Sure some of these people may be bi without realising it yet but you're assumptions of them are based solely on your own projections and have absolutely nothing to do with the individuals you seem determined to label as "bi".

Samaris

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree too. But there is some fun to be had by suggesting to them that they just have not met the right person yet

And who knows - that might even be correct. Which Annoys them no end

Yeah, people say that to gay people too, especially lesbians. Because god forbid anyone not be attracted to the fine specimen of manhood suggesting they can be 'cured' by his penis.

Live and let live, just because you're having a go at sexuality in a more "PC" way doesn't mean that you're not implying much the same thing as those idiots that have a go at lesbians.

The Bishop Basher

Medusa22 wrote: »

I tend to agree with you that the majority of people, if not all, are to some degree or extent bi-sexual, but some people are adamant that they are 100% gay or 100% straight and I try to respect that, though being bi-sexual myself I find it difficult to comprehend, surely there are just degrees of bi-sexuality?

Lots more assumptions here although at least you are respectful to others while making them.

Why do you think everyone is bi ?

Menas

Sorry boys.

You’re straighter than a ruler wearing black socks with sandals. Every sexual thought you’ve ever had has been for a member of the other sex, and that’ll probably never change. Your sexuality is about as fluid as the polar ice caps.

NachoBusiness

Another for the ruler wearing black socks.

Sir Osis of Liver.

I got Strictly Hetrosexual.

Sorry boys,hello ladies.

Larry the Logster

Medusa22 wrote: »

... so I am your polar opposite, do you get it? :pac:

I don't get it, can you explain it to me?

charlietheminxx

Mostly heterosexual.

Sounds right to me

biko

Gayer than Christmas.

westernfrenzy

Got equally gay and equally straight. It's kinda right. I am bi but I prefer girls so it ain't that equal :P

readyletsgo

Aced it!

You got: Equal parts homosexual and heterosexual.

At times, you’ve found yourself drawn to different types of people: gay, straight, male, female, and whatever else. Your sexuality is about as fluid as it gets, and it’ll probably remain so as long as you’re having sexual impulses.

looksee

You got: Strictly heterosexual.
You’re straighter than a ruler wearing black socks with sandals. Every sexual thought you’ve ever had has been for a member of the other sex, and that’ll probably never change. Your sexuality is about as fluid as the polar ice caps.

Hm, this sounds a little judgmental! Do people who identify as strictly homosexual get a comment about

'You’re gayer than a banana wearing sparkly red shoes. Every sexual thought you’ve ever had has been for a member of the same sex, and that’ll probably never change. Your sexuality is about as fluid as the polar ice caps.'?

Maybe I need to go out and find some gay pensioners to be friendly with, so I can say 'some of my best friends are gay'.

I have no issues with gay people, I do know some, though it just happens they are acquaintances/ friend's children rather than close friends. But there seems to be some conflation of my being straight with my attitudes, which is, frankly, narrow minded muck-stirring.


Edit, I just did the quiz using the most extreme gay answers and I got the following:

You got: Strictly homosexual.
You’re gay, and there’s probably nothing that will ever change that. As soon as you started having sexual thoughts, you had them for people with the same sex as your own. You’re only ever going to be attracted to people of the same sex, and because of that, your sexuality isn’t very fluid at all.

Yes, rather different to my actual response; bit patronising really, pat on the head stuff.

Medusa22

Larry the Logster wrote: »

I don't get it, can you explain it to me?

Peregrine was told that his sexuality is as solid as the polar ice caps, no fluidity whereas mine is as fluid as it gets, so we're exact opposites or as the saying goes, polar opposites

It isn't funny when I have to explain it! Well ok, maybe it isn't funny anyway but it made me laugh and that's the important thing

Log9

Yay I got: Equal parts homosexual and heterosexual. Quite accurate too.

"At times, you’ve found yourself drawn to different types of people: gay, straight, male, female, and whatever else. Your sexuality is about as fluid as it gets, and it’ll probably remain so as long as you’re having sexual impulses."

...

I have to say though as much as it sounds great, the down side is that I always found it tough as I've had a few incidents of gay guys treating me as either a traitor to the cause, confused or a closet case. I'm none of those.

I never felt I had the backup of the gay community growing up and didn't really socialise at LGBT stuff in my younger years. That probably wasn't a great thing for me as I could have done with the network.

Also I had a straight female partner's friends try to blame this on me breaking up with her. We broke up for other reasons. I was never one to hide being bi but I got a few very nasty and very hurtful comments about "leading her up the garden path" and even one just plain homophobic jibe.

I've had this all through my life from various people of both orientations. People have to start accepting that bi people exist. I'm not ever going to apologise for my orientation and I can be deeply into men or women.

I really get a bit fed up with people thinking I'm just confused or that you're just not accepting that you're gay.

iguana

Medusa22 wrote: »

though being bi-sexual myself I find it difficult to comprehend, surely there are just degrees of bi-sexuality?

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

Maximus Alexander

iguana wrote: »

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

I agree. I don't think people realise that telling someone "Ah sure you must be a little bit bi at least, you're only codding yourself" is similar to telling a bi person "Sure you're only being greedy, you don't really fancy both sexes." It's pretty insulting.

LeBash

It says I'm straighter than a guy wearing black socks and sandals. I am wearing black socks and cross though so it's safe to say, straight or gay I'm pure style!

Oh and just realised the zipper in my shorts was down

Medusa22

iguana wrote: »

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

I did say that I do respect people if they identify as 100% gay or straight, even if I find it difficult to comprehend myself.

Medusa22

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Straight as a ruler as expected, the only homosexual sex I want to be involved with is 2 girls in a threesome :pac:

Not a thinly veiled thread to suss out who is available for a threesome, not at all, no

Wibbs

Swanner wrote: »

Sure some of these people may be bi without realising it yet but you're assumptions of them are based solely on your own projections and have absolutely nothing to do with the individuals you seem determined to label as "bi".

Common enough nonsense to hear though. Smug nonsense with it. Especially to be heard from bisexuals and free love types. Naturally. As people tend to be inherently self centred, they assume others to be thinking along similar lines as themselves. I've rarely heard it from gay or straight folks. They're not "fluid" so again projecting their own assumptions on the world they don't make the leap that others might be.

That said I have found that bisexual folks can really get stick from all sides, from both gay and straight people. Again the projection. They can be seen as either sexual tourists or not admitting their "real" sexuality.

Kinsey was a bit of a chancer anyway. Brave for the time, but a chancer nonetheless. His methodology was decidedly dodgy and therefore his conclusions were.

Wibbs

Medusa22 wrote: »

Not a thinly veiled thread to suss out who is available for a threesome, not at all, no

Speaking as a straight man that whole two women thing never appealed, funny enough. Apparently it's "supposed" to, but it doesn't. Sure, two naked attractive women in front of me will rev my engine, but going at each other eh… nope. TBH it looks odd to me, just like two men does. Meh whatever floats your boat and greases your wheels and oils your axle etc.

Medusa22

Swanner wrote: »

Lots more assumptions here although at least you are respectful to others while making them.

Why do you think everyone is bi ?

I'll explain my reasoning below

iguana wrote: »

Why does being what you are stop you from believing that people can be what they are? Being straight doesn't make it difficult for me to comprehend other people being gay or bi-sexual. I can easily accept that all people aren't like me. But I am entirely straight. I can appreciate a beautiful woman and find her sexy and enjoyable to look at but the thought of me having sex with even the most beautiful, sexy, fantastic woman is as appealing to me as the thought of having sex with a horrible, smelly, leery, drunken lech of a man that's just soiled himself. When it comes to kissing someone, touching them sexually, being touched, etc. I only find men (some men) attractive.

You see, for me, I can't understand how a woman who is perfectly clean can be as repulsive to you as a man with poor hygiene who is lecherous and has just soiled himself. I know you were probably exaggerating for hyperbole but I can understand being indifferent to her attractiveness, but being as repulsed by this woman as you are by this man? I don't understand it, I accept it, and that's how you feel and I believe that's how you feel and I'm not going to tell you how to feel.

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I agree. I don't think people realise that telling someone "Ah sure you must be a little bit bi at least, you're only codding yourself" is similar to telling a bi person "Sure you're only being greedy, you don't really fancy both sexes." It's pretty insulting.

I would never tell someone that they are only codding themselves, I'd tell them that I believe that most people are bi-sexual to some degree, and that could be 98% straight and 2% bi, I'm not saying that the attraction is equal or would be anywhere near it at all. I just struggle with the dichotomy of 100% gay or straight, I admit that, I'd even accept 99.9% straight or gay. I think most people have the ability to be attracted to both sexes, but are predominantly gay or straight, and some then would be more bi-sexual.

Wibbs wrote: »

Common enough nonsense to hear though. Smug nonsense with it. Especially to be heard from bisexuals and free love types. Naturally. As people tend to be inherently self centred, they assume others to be thinking along similar lines as themselves. I've rarely heard it from gay or straight folks. They're not "fluid" so again projecting their own assumptions on the world they don't make the leap that others might be.

That said I have found that bisexual folks can really get stick from all sides, from both gay and straight people. Again the projection. They can be seen as either sexual tourists or not admitting their "real" sexuality.

Kinsey was a bit of a chancer anyway. Brave for the time, but a chancer nonetheless. His methodology was decidedly dodgy and therefore his conclusions were.

Perhaps it is my own self-centred projections, perhaps I just can't comprehend anything outside of my own sexuality. I should have phrased it better when I responded to taxAHcruel, but I do believe the majority of people are capable of having sexual feelings for the same sex, it might never happen to them, but I believe it is in the realms of possibility. This is anecdotal I know, but my partner was 28 when we met and she had never had sex or even kissed another woman, or fantasised about one, and here she is in a civil partnership with me, sexuality is fluid and it can change over time. I am making generalisations, I am not talking about every single person on this planet.

I have had many people dismiss my own sexuality and tell me that it doesn't exist, that I am greedy, that I am on the fence, that I'm gay and I can't come out of the closet, that I'm an opportunist, that I'll just go home with whoever is available, I've heard it all. I apologise if I made gay or straight people feel like this with my own comments, as that wasn't my intention and I wouldn't want to patronise someone or tell them how they should feel about their own sexuality.

Agricola

Wibbs wrote: »

Speaking as a straight man that whole two women thing never appealed, funny enough. Apparently it's "supposed" to, but it doesn't. Sure, two naked attractive women in front of me will rev my engine, but going at each other eh… nope. TBH it looks odd to me, just like two men does. Meh whatever floats your boat and greases your wheels and oils your axle etc.

Yeah but double the ass and boobies surely Wibbs.


*how do like it, how do you like it, more more more, how do you like it....*

The Randy Riverbeast

Medusa22 wrote: »

Not a thinly veiled thread to suss out who is available for a threesome, not at all, no

My inbox is overflowing from couples looking for a stallion :pac:

Randy isn't a name

Galwayguy35

Told me I like the ladies which was no great surprise to me.

I really don't get this idea that gets thrown about that there might be some bi sexuality in all of us.

The thought of doing anything sexually with a fella would make me physically sick.

mr.anonymous

Strictly homosexual, just like my internet history. Women are the nicer sex but only men excite my purple headed warrior.

iguana

Medusa22 wrote: »

You see, for me, I can't understand how a woman who is perfectly clean can be as repulsive to you as a man with poor hygiene who is lecherous and has just soiled himself. I know you were probably exaggerating for hyperbole but I can understand being indifferent to her attractiveness, but being as repulsed by this woman as you are by this man? I don't understand it, I accept it, and that's how you feel and I believe that's how you feel and I'm not going to tell you how to feel.

No, I'm definitely not exaggerating. I'm not indifferent to a beautiful woman. I can look at her and appreciate her beauty, her sexiness, her charisma, etc in the same way that I'd appreciate a beautiful artwork, a stunning sunset, a handsome dog, etc. But the thought of having sex with her is utterly repulsive (just like it would be with the handsome dog).

Nodin

Gaygooner wrote: »

I'm super Gay!

Flying extravagantly through the air?

iguana

iguana wrote: »

No, I'm definitely not exaggerating. I'm not indifferent to a beautiful woman. I can look at her and appreciate her beauty, her sexiness, her charisma, etc in the same way that I'd appreciate a beautiful artwork, a stunning sunset, a handsome dog, etc. But the thought of having sex with her is utterly repulsive (just like it would be with the handsome dog).

I'm black socks and sandals straight.

I have to say though, the thought of sex with a woman doesn't repulse me. I'm just completely uninterested in it.

I don't think everyone is either a bit bi or in denial about it, but I think that would be hard to get your head around if you were bi.

I wouldn't say that everyone who is bi is a gay person in denial, but it would basically be the same argument.

Wibbs

Agricola wrote: »

Yeah but double the ass and boobies surely Wibbs.

Not really. One after the other, yea, for variety like, but not at the same time.

Medusa22 wrote: »

You see, for me, I can't understand how a woman who is perfectly clean can be as repulsive to you as a man with poor hygiene who is lecherous and has just soiled himself. I know you were probably exaggerating for hyperbole but I can understand being indifferent to her attractiveness, but being as repulsed by this woman as you are by this man?

Because the thought of being sexually involved with a woman repulses her, just as the though of being sexually involved with a man repulses me as a straight man. There are plenty of gay men and women that the thoughts of heterosexual sex repulses them too BTW. Sadly for too many of them especially in the past they often had to try it to "pass for normal". I couldn't begin to imagine living in a world like that, where I'd have to have a boyfriend to "fit in", or even to avoid violence or gaol. Jesus.

I would never tell someone that they are only codding themselves,

OK and that's cool.

I'd tell them that I believe that most people are bi-sexual to some degree, and that could be 98% straight and 2% bi, I'm not saying that the attraction is equal or would be anywhere near it at all. I just struggle with the dichotomy of 100% gay or straight, I admit that, I'd even accept 99.9% straight or gay. I think most people have the ability to be attracted to both sexes, but are predominantly gay or straight, and some then would be more bi-sexual.

… and yet you continue to peddle the notion that 100% gay or straight isn't quite correct*.

Perhaps it is my own self-centred projections, perhaps I just can't comprehend anything outside of my own sexuality.

Bingo on both counts.

but I do believe the majority of people are capable of having sexual feelings for the same sex, it might never happen to them, but I believe it is in the realms of possibility.

and yet here you go again .

I can understand being gay far more than I can understand being bi TBH. I can understand that in another universe there's a me where my focus on women was flipped to be focused on men. I get that. It's just a mirror image of my experience. However, though I don't understand being bi on that level, I acknowledge some folks are bisexual and fair play. I do not assume to suggest that actually they're more likely to be straight/gay. TBH I do feel it's one reason bisexuals do get stick from all sides, because they make these assumptions either as you have, but you do explain your reasoning, or worse as earlier TaxAH does as apparently a way to wind people up.





*experimentally it seems women may be more bisexual. A few studies have shown that straight me get aroused from looking at straight sexual imagery, gay men from looking at gay sexual imagery. That seems broadly true for straight and gay women, but the women were more likely to be subconsciously aroused by any sexual imagery. The conclusion being that women's sexuality was more fluid. Or that could be cultural expectation and the arousal is an evolutionary defence against physical damage in sexual assault.

Maximus Alexander

Medusa22 wrote: »

I would never tell someone that they are only codding themselves, I'd tell them that I believe that most people are bi-sexual to some degree, and that could be 98% straight and 2% bi, I'm not saying that the attraction is equal or would be anywhere near it at all. I just struggle with the dichotomy of 100% gay or straight, I admit that, I'd even accept 99.9% straight or gay. I think most people have the ability to be attracted to both sexes, but are predominantly gay or straight, and some then would be more bi-sexual.

What do you base this belief on though? Because I can tell you that it is definitely incorrect. I just don't understand why you would have any cause to doubt what someone reports to you about their own sexuality.

Medusa22

Wibbs wrote: »

Because the thought of being sexually involved with a woman repulses her, just as the though of being sexually involved with a man repulses me as a straight man. There are plenty of gay men and women that the thoughts of heterosexual sex repulses them too BTW. Sadly for too many of them especially in the past they often had to try it to "pass for normal". I couldn't begin to imagine living in a world like that, where I'd have to have a boyfriend to "fit in", or even to avoid violence or gaol. Jesus.

Fair enough, some people are repulsed by the idea of having sex with someone of the same sex, I will accept that.

Wibbs wrote: »

OK and that's cool. … and yet you continue to peddle the notion that 100% gay or straight isn't quite correct*.

I did say ''I believe'' indicating that it is my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. I didn't say correct or incorrect, I said that I believe most people to be either predominantly gay or straight but with some bi-sexual tendencies.

Wibbs wrote: »

I can understand being gay far more than I can understand being bi TBH. I can understand that in another universe there's a me where my focus on women was flipped to be focused on men. I get that. It's just a mirror image of my experience. However, though I don't understand being bi on that level, I acknowledge some folks are bisexual and fair play. I do not assume to suggest that actually they're more likely to be straight/gay. TBH I do feel it's one reason bisexuals do get stick from all sides, because they make these assumptions either as you have, but you do explain your reasoning, or worse as earlier TaxAH does as apparently a way to wind people up.

Hang on a second, so you can understand being gay far more than you can understand being bi, but somehow it's unacceptable to you that I can understand being bi more than I can understand being gay or straight? In fact you acknowledge that some people are bi and fair play, and I have said previously that I accept that people are gay and straight, just that I believe most people to be somewhere on the bi spectrum. All of the stick I received was not because I told people my opinion of bi-sexuality, in fact I usually just receive it for stating that I am bi-sexual and these people don't believe that it exists.