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Turkey? Or not?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Anyone ever visit the turkey in Dublin Zoo?

    Bit like a tightly wound old woman making noise :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I think a lot of snobbery about good is related to the cost or how common it is. Very obvious in seafood where one generations poverty food is another generations delicacy.

    The poor in the 19th C had goose at Christmas. That's what the Cratchets had. When Scrooge reformed he bought them a turkey. Luxury.

    Turkey's a lovely meat. Most people are not cooking it right, nor is cooked properly in most places. As a roast it needs to be eaten really quickly to preserve its moistness. Good turkey is melt in the mouth. But nothing dries so fast.

    It might have been lovely once upon a time, or if you splash out on one of the bronze turkeys, but I think that the mass produced, bred for size ones most people get aren't good. The taste and quality has been sacrificed for size and speed of growth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 Championship Vinyl


    Had pheasant one year. It was delicious and a welcome change...but turkey. And then turkey sandwiches.


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Like myself :)

    Turkey is great stuff imo, love it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    kylith wrote: »
    It might have been lovely once upon a time, or if you splash out on one of the bronze turkeys, but I think that the mass produced, bred for size ones most people get aren't good. The taste and quality has been sacrificed for size and speed of growth.

    I get the organic ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,075 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Christmas without turkey and ham for me and my family wouldn't be Christmas. I find it strange that so many people have Christmas without turkey. I literally know nobody in my life who doesn't. Learn something new everyday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I'm down with Gout at the moment so there'll be nothing like turkey, duck etc for me this year :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,282 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    We always have a large turkey and a full smoked ham.
    Would prefer the ham to turkey but I still like turkey and would eat it during the year. We always do our own stuffings/sides for Christmas because we wouldn't want to be let down.
    Legs of lamb and roast beef are just every day dinners to us.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    No turkey at Christmas!!??!!?!!! :eek:

    What's next ....... no sprouts!!??!!!?!!!! F*cking peasants!!!! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,929 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Seems like a lot of people eat a Sunday roast turkey and stuffing all year long and it's nothing special at Christmas and instead have roast Beef once a year at Christmas whereas we're the exact opposite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Zimmey


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Why? Turkey has a flavour distinct from chicken. Moist turkey tastes like moist turkey, not moist chicken. Or dry chicken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,778 ✭✭✭goz83


    For me, it's a must. The wife went vegetarian a year ago, but then had to eat beef for iron when pregnant and still eats it. We got a 6+kilo turkey. So, all in all, there will be 2 adults eating turkey and 6 kids. The left overs are great for sandwiches and turkey curry :D

    For smaller families, I think the turkey crown in Lidl is super value. We got one a couple of years ago and it was lovely.

    A 4 kilo ham awaits us too :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Zimmey


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭ja1986


    Thought I would hack this thread for a quick question. My friend is cooking dinner for her sister and partner tomorrow and she just told me the turkey is going to take six hours to cook so she is cooking for 3 hours tonight and 3 hours tomorrow. Iv a bad feeling she's going to poison them all. Can you actually cook it that way?

    I'm actually not having turkey tomorrow. We've decided on spiced beef ,ham and duck. I'd eat my body weight in spiced beef.....and that's a lot!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Zimmey


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Well, if they don't taste different to you then you don't need to rethink it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    Nah, we're not big turkey fans in this house. It's just a big, dry chicken but a bit more gamey.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,778 ✭✭✭goz83


    ja1986 wrote: »
    Thought I would hack this thread for a quick question. My friend is cooking dinner for her sister and partner tomorrow and she just told me the turkey is going to take six hours to cook so she is cooking for 3 hours tonight and 3 hours tomorrow. Iv a bad feeling she's going to poison them all. Can you actually cook it that way?

    I'm actually not having turkey tomorrow. We've decided on spiced beef ,ham and duck. I'd eat my body weight in spiced beef.....and that's a lot!

    Yes, thats fine. Lots of people do it that way.

    6 hours! You sure it's a turkey? My 6 kilo turkey will take 4 and a half.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    Crown of turkey from the local butcher, 8 Ib, cover it in butter soaked muslin cloth and cook for just under 3 hrs. Perfection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,778 ✭✭✭goz83


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Well thats an 8 kilo bird, so just under 6 hours is fine, stuffed. A 3 kilo turkey should only take 3-3.5 hours depending on whether it is stuffed or not. 6 hours is going to be a very dry bird.

    I mistyped mine, which will be 4.5 hours :D

    Juicy turkey.....with bacon on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Anyone ever visit the turkey in Dublin Zoo?

    Bit like a tightly wound old woman making noise :)

    Oh stop! I had forgotten the turkeys at the Traditional Farms at Muckross.. just never connected them with my dinner! That dreadful red and blue wattled male and the female so enamoured.. and the noise! They had one that used to attack visitors.... wonder what happened to him..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,778 ✭✭✭goz83


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Oh stop! I had forgotten the turkeys at the Traditional Farms at Muckross.. just never connected them with my dinner! That dreadful red and blue wattled male and the female so enamoured.. and the noise! They had one that used to attack visitors.... wonder what happened to him..

    Im pretty sure it ended up on my plate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    For years before my Mum died we had divine rib roast of beef.

    Since then he has a new partner and she is an atrocious cook. Last year she finished cooking the Turkey in the microwave.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Diamond Doll


    For years before my Mum died we had divine rib roast of beef.

    Since then he has a new partner and she is an atrocious cook. Last year she finished cooking the Turkey in the microwave.

    Why don't you cook it yourself instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I think a lot of snobbery about good is related to the cost or how common it is. Very obvious in seafood where one generations poverty food is another generations delicacy.

    The poor in the 19th C had goose at Christmas. That's what the Cratchets had. When Scrooge reformed he bought them a turkey. Luxury.

    Turkey's a lovely meat. Most people are not cooking it right, nor is cooked properly in most places. As a roast it needs to be eaten really quickly to preserve its moistness. Good turkey is melt in the mouth. But nothing dries so fast.

    I was watching Jamie Oliver last night. He said take out of the oven and then rest your turkey for 2 hours. That way the turkey moistens itself.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    No turkey at Christmas!!??!!?!!! :eek:

    What's next ....... no sprouts!!??!!!?!!!! F*cking peasants!!!! :mad:

    We never ever had sprouts when I was younger. Only when I grew up did I realise that sprouts were as traditional as Turkey.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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