Did you ever eat or drink something while grocery shopping?

Collie D · 24-12-2015 12:12PM

Would consider somebody strolling around the local Tesco drinking a can of beer slightly dodgy at least.

24-12-2015 12:25PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Tell that to a screaming 2 year old and all the judgey ****ing childless shoppers tutting at him.

No.

You do that. That's your job.

Food: not yours til its paid for.

ted1 · 24-12-2015 12:34PM

Collie D wrote: »

Would consider somebody strolling around the local Tesco drinking a can of beer slightly dodgy at least.

Well considering that they are only licensed for off sales, then it's completely illegal.

So either they let you have the item for free. or if they charge you for the item consumed on the premises then they could lose their licence.

i've often eaten or drinking stuff before the counter, especially if shopping with a hangover.

In a hyper marche in France myself and my Dad opened 10 different bottles of wine. and tasted each one, the manager approached us and asked what we were doing. we told him we are looking to buy 200 bottles for a wedding and tasting them first. his reaction was to offer us some cheeses to go with them.

ted1 · 24-12-2015 12:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No.

You do that. That's your job.

Food: not yours til its paid for.

Well Dunnes don't pay their supplier for 60 days. so they don't own it either.
and I guess it is not theft till you take the item off the premises.

Whitewinged · 24-12-2015 12:49PM

No

murphyebass wrote: »

Laid back or unable to control your child are two different things.

Tantrums happen but how you deal with said tantrum is the issue.

well maybe the people you are talking about are only learning how to deal with said tantrums as there are many different methods and ideas and different approaches will work best on certain children.

perhaps some parents give their children food from the shop during a tantrum because they feel judged by other people and under pressure, like the poster who sparked the conversation. it might be a case where they feel the child is bothering people by crying only to realise someone else is pointing at them for giving the little one a grape :eek:

in the cases with my child, it was not given due to a tantrum but just giving her a piece of fruit because I'm always happy when she eats some fruit. I don't always pack fruit because it can go funny in the bag plus I personally don't see it as a big deal since I am paying for them anyway. if other people see it as an issue then I suggest they don't do it.

murphyebass · 24-12-2015 02:08PM

Whitewinged wrote: »

well maybe the people you are talking about are only learning how to deal with said tantrums as there are many different methods and ideas and different approaches will work best on certain children.

perhaps some parents give their children food from the shop during a tantrum because they feel judged by other people and under pressure, like the poster who sparked the conversation. it might be a case where they feel the child is bothering people by crying only to realise someone else is pointing at them for giving the little one a grape :eek:

in the cases with my child, it was not given due to a tantrum but just giving her a piece of fruit because I'm always happy when she eats some fruit. I don't always pack fruit because it can go funny in the bag plus I personally don't see it as a big deal since I am paying for them anyway. if other people see it as an issue then I suggest they don't do it.

Plenty of fruit keeps absolutely fine in a small plastic container so I really don't buy that excuse.

Speaking of buying what would happen if you got to the till and found out you'd forgotten your wallet?

I'll be back soon with money mr shopkeeper I promise.

You may not see it as a big deal but it is stealing plain and simple.
You do not own the good or service until you've paid for it.

And outside of the whole stealing thing it's just good manners in my opinion.

ButtersSuki · 24-12-2015 03:33PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Jaysis that's some bullshit

It's not actually. Read "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell who explains far more eloquently than I ever could how for example stopping minor indiscretions (I'm being generous in my descriptor there) can change much larger societal behaviour.

Championship Vinyl · 24-12-2015 03:41PM

Generally, no. But when I've been in a supermarket and not felt well (needing sugar), I've cracked open a can of Coke and paid for it at the checkout.

Ive only been in that situation a couple of times.

I wouldn't judge someone for doing it though, whatever their reasons.

However I do agree with the above - small things like that being clamped down on to change larger societal issues.

I wonder what a thread in Norway or Canada or somewhere would be like?

Irish people definitely take the 'sure it's grand' attitude to a lot of things that other societies may frown upon. I think it's in our nature. For some reason.

fussyonion · 24-12-2015 03:43PM

I have done but it's only ever been a drink when I was parching with the thirst.
I'd always pay for it, though, and I don't do it often.

I usually carry a water bottle with me anyway; if I forget it and I'm shopping and happen to be thirsty, I would take a bottle out of the fridge and pay for it at the end.
But I would never go around the shop eating anything.

Gaygooner · 24-12-2015 03:44PM

No

Red bull hangover - please scan used can

cashback · 24-12-2015 04:24PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

It's not actually. Read "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell who explains far more eloquently than I ever could how for example stopping minor indiscretions (I'm being generous in my descriptor there) can change much larger societal behaviour.

Well Gladwell mentioned things like the graffiti on the New York Subway. I'm not sure a child eating a biscuit in a supermarket is on the same level.

Gaygooner · 24-12-2015 05:29PM

No

Fcuk me even at Xmas boardsies be judging... Kids eating cuisine de France mini roll in supermarket shocker!!!!

Whitewinged · 24-12-2015 05:37PM

No

murphyebass wrote: »

Plenty of fruit keeps absolutely fine in a small plastic container so I really don't buy that excuse.

Speaking of buying what would happen if you got to the till and found out you'd forgotten your wallet?

I'll be back soon with money mr shopkeeper I promise.

You may not see it as a big deal but it is stealing plain and simple.
You do not own the good or service until you've paid for it.

And outside of the whole stealing thing it's just good manners in my opinion.

I'm not making excuses for you to buy. Like I said, I just don't think its a big deal. I'm just not that uptight about little things like that.

If I forgot my wallet, then id go home and get it and go back. Of course I would say to the shopkeeper that I would be back with the money. I'm sure shopkeepers are as reasonable as any one else and I wouldn't be afraid to admit I forgot my wallet or that I opened a packet of grapes. Another non issue. its life, people sometimes forget things. They could charge me for the grape when I get back

PowerToWait · 24-12-2015 05:39PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

After doing the Christmas shop in a Dublin Tesco last night I was genuinely going to post on this item today. I witnessed a lot of this last night, and plenty of strategic dumping of the packaging of consumed goods. However, I'm genuinely astonished at the attitudes on this thread.

It's very simple - IT'S NOT YOURS UNTIL YOU'VE PAID FOR IT, THEREFORE DON'T EAT IT.

This bs "shure it's grand, I'm going to pay for it later" is a typical Irish gombeen attitude. It's not grand. And it's the tolerance of this kind of petty crap that leads to other dodgy behaviour and the wink wink nudge nudge culture that pervades our society.

Am I the only one who think this is completely wrong? It's basic manners at one level.

Typical AH high horsery. Calling it theft, EVEN IN CAPITAL LETTERS, doesn't make it so.

As has been mentioned, we do it in restaurants all the time. I can even spend money I don't have via credit card, car loans etc.

If you pay for it it's legit. Snaffle it and don't pay, then yeah, that's stealing. Stealing from massive robbing bandits, but stealing nonetheless.

murphyebass · 24-12-2015 05:44PM

Whitewinged wrote: »

I'm not making excuses for you to buy. Like I said, I just don't think its a big deal. I'm just not that uptight about little things like that.

If I forgot my wallet, then id go home and get it and go back. Of course I would say to the shopkeeper that I would be back with the money. I'm sure shopkeepers are as reasonable as any one else and I wouldn't be afraid to admit I forgot my wallet or that I opened a packet of grapes. Another non issue. its life, people sometimes forget things. They could charge me for the grape when I get back

You feel it's a little thing. Personally I don't.

If I owned the establishment id throw you out for stealing.

People do forget things but most civil people haven't eaten something they don't yet own.

Whitewinged · 24-12-2015 05:51PM

No

murphyebass wrote: »

You feel it's a little thing. Personally I don't.

If I owned the establishment id throw you out for stealing.

People do forget things but most civil people haven't eaten something they don't yet own.

i must be the unique civilised exception to the rule then

ComfortKid · 24-12-2015 05:54PM

Use to open a pack of biscuits or bars, eat one or two then put it back on the shelf. One day I drank about a half litre of milk and put it back on the shelf.

Shrap · 24-12-2015 06:01PM

No

I do it all the time. Well, whenever I get taken short by having no breakfast but doing a full week's shopping at the same time. Never, EVER shop on an empty stomach - you buy twice as many munchies as you intended. So I always eat something around the shop and then pay for it. A banana, a bun, or a yoghurt drink or something.

Senna · 24-12-2015 06:15PM

Does every thread have to have an obligatory "this only happens in Ireland", "typical Irish" sentiment that I can only assume is posted by people that have never left the country?

This certainly happens in Spain and the US. Aldi's in Spain have big ovens as you go in where fresh bread is baked hourly, locals pick up bread and eat it as they walk around shopping, then pay for it along with the shopping.

I wish they would do those breads in Irish Aldi's.

Valetta · 24-12-2015 06:21PM

murphyebass wrote: »

You feel it's a little thing. Personally I don't.

If I owned the establishment id throw you out for stealing.

People do forget things but most civil people haven't eaten something they don't yet own.

Ever go to a restaurant, no?

FloatingVoter · 24-12-2015 06:24PM

No

I often have a hipflask on me. If it needs topping up it's nice of supermarkets to provide refill stations.

murphyebass · 24-12-2015 06:44PM

Valetta wrote: »

Ever go to a restaurant, no?

Yeah because that's the same thing. Yup. Absolutely correct.

Valetta · 24-12-2015 06:56PM

murphyebass wrote: »

Yeah because that's the same thing. Yup. Absolutely correct.

When exactly do you own the food in a restaurant ?

In a supermarket, you have stuff in your possession that you haven't yet paid for.

When you go to get your hair cut, do you pay up front? If not, you're stealing, according to your wierd logic.

Smidge · 24-12-2015 07:07PM

murphyebass wrote: »

You feel it's a little thing. Personally I don't.

If I owned the establishment id throw you out for stealing.

People do forget things but most civil people haven't eaten something they don't yet own.

Well, technically you could only have her arrested for stealing if she LEFT the premises and hadn't paid for what she or her child had eaten. If she pays for the empty pack at the till(which she says she does and which I have also done)then its not theft.
I dont believe half of the high horsery in here tbh.
I have seen loads of people munch grapes from the bag, open a bottle of water and take a swig etc etc over the years.
It really isnt that big if a deal.
Unless you have feck all else to be worrying about.

pickarooney · 25-12-2015 08:08AM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Do you fill the car up drive off and come back to pay the garage with an empty tank.?

If you're trying to make an analogy you should ask if I fill the car, then drive to the area of the forecourt outside the pumps and then go in and pay. I don't, a it happens, I put my card in before filling up, but there would be nothing wrong with the above scenario.

dubscottie · 25-12-2015 08:12AM

Nom nom and hand the empty item to the person on the till...

I would cal that theft.. And its disgusting.

Would you want to hold an item that some idiot has drooled all over!

25-12-2015 08:15AM

dubscottie wrote: »

Nom nom and hand the empty item to the person on the till...

I would cal that theft.. And its disgusting.

Would you want to hold an item that some idiot has drooled all over!

Well you'd be wrong. On the theft aspect anyway.

Lots of misunderstanding of theft here.

The shop owner tells you to take the product from the shelf and pay for it. That is all. If you take the product from the shelf and intend to pay for it, it is not theft. It does not become theft because you nibble at it. As a matter of law, there is no dishonest appropriation, the act of taking the item is not dishonest.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/act/50/section/4/enacted/en/html

25-12-2015 08:20AM

ted1 wrote: »

Well considering that they are only licensed for off sales, then it's completely illegal...

On the shop's part, it might constitute a breach of licensing laws. But there is no consent implied, so doubt anything would come of it. It would be like blaming them if someone lit up a cigarette.

kneemos · 25-12-2015 08:52AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well you'd be wrong. On the theft aspect anyway.

Lots of misunderstanding of theft here.

The shop owner tells you to take the product from the shelf and pay for it. That is all. If you take the product from the shelf and intend to pay for it, it is not theft. It does not become theft because you nibble at it. As a matter of law, there is no dishonest appropriation, the act of taking the item is not dishonest.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/act/50/section/4/enacted/en/html

Wouldn't call it theft but it's not your property.
If you're going to consume food on the premises I'm sure technically there are health and hygiene regulations to consider.

25-12-2015 08:57AM

kneemos wrote: »

Wouldn't call it theft but it's not your property.
If you're going to consume food on the premises I'm sure technically there are health and hygiene regulations to consider.

You are correct in that it's not ones property, no more than the petrol in the car is (which is a good analogy) when you fill up, use that petrol when moving the car to another part of the forecourt, and then go to pay.

Not sure it breaches any health or hygiene issues. The licensing angle was a good one, and suspect health and hygiene is much the same...there may be a breach but the shop owner is not accountable for much of what the consumer does.

For all that I wouldn't do it, just because it doesn't look right!

Did you ever eat or drink something while grocery shopping?

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