Is tipping now expected in Ireland?

MOH · 17-12-2015 01:27PM

Uno my Uno. wrote: »

It's not the same type of service, I've explained that several times. I find it offensive when people don't tip in restaurants.

Uno my Uno. wrote: »

It offends me when someone doesn't tip (except in the rare circumstances where service has been so bad a tip is not warranted) because it is them displaying their self superiority. I hate that, it's wrong.

Uno my Uno. wrote: »

Alright it's been fun but I think we've taken this as far as it'll go. Thanks to all the social warriors who are either too good to tip or strong willed enough not to cave into the server lobby and refuse to add a few euro to the bill for the people who cooked and served your meal.

So basically, you find anyone who has an opinion different to yours on this subject offensive?

I find it fairly offensive when people start making snide sarcastic comments about others who don't agree with them, especially on a subject that's clearly open to subjective interpretation.

John_Rambo · 17-12-2015 01:30PM

Taking offence is very popular these days.

snubbleste · 17-12-2015 01:30PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I always leave a €6 tip for my barber here in Frankfurt; two twenty euro notes for the combined cut and tip. I've been going to the same barber for four years now and always enjoy his company, as well as always being guaranteed a damn fine haircut that has me looking my best.

€40 for a shearing :eek:

Paramite Pie · 17-12-2015 01:52PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Agreed. Not sure why people are so shocked at the fact that me, as a Dubliner tips. It's no great surprise if you're well travelled within Ireland.

I am far more likely to tip in Dublin, but I never really sensed specific percentage or ideal tip. In Galway, in finer restaurants you'd always wait for your change and then tip -- at least that's what I've observed. The tip would often be more than the change anyways.

In Dublin recently a waitress never brought me my change so she must've taken a tip out of it. I thought that was cheeky especially since I was mulling over how much of a tip to give (it would've been more!). Is that the norm in Dub these days?

The King of Moo wrote: »

There's probably more justification for tipping a butcher who cuts your meat to your request, as he's doing the work, whereas when you tell a waiter you want your steak rare, they just pass that on to the chef.

Maybe they only buy supermarket meat. My mam's a butcher and there's a fair bit of work involved -- especially at christmas. Customers don't usually tip year 'round but they do leave hampers, choclates and bottles of whiskey etc.. that'd be the done thing in many places where your a regular I'd imagine.

But that's just us miserly non-tipping culchies.:D

John_Rambo · 17-12-2015 02:11PM

Paramite Pie wrote: »

I am far more likely to tip in Dublin, but I never really sensed specific percentage or ideal tip. In Galway, in finer restaurants you'd always wait for your change and then tip -- at least that's what I've observed. The tip would often be more than the change anyways.

In Dublin recently a waitress never brought me my change so she must've taken a tip out of it. I thought that was cheeky especially since I was mulling over how much of a tip to give (it would've been more!). Is that the norm in Dub these days?

Maybe they only buy supermarket meat. My mam's a butcher and there's a fair bit of work involved -- especially at christmas. Customers don't usually tip year 'round but they do leave hampers, choclates and bottles of whiskey etc.. that'd be the done thing in many places where your a regular I'd imagine.

But that's just us miserly non-tipping culchies.:D

No, that's not the norm anywhere, I've been dining in Dublin for years, more than twice a week and that's never happened. Another Dublin story that only seem to happen to people when they visit Dublin from the country.

osarusan · 17-12-2015 02:30PM

I've cut my own hair with a clippers for the last 18 years.

Saved a fortune in tipping myself.

Paramite Pie · 17-12-2015 02:38PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

No, that's not the norm anywhere, I've been dining in Dublin for years, more than twice a week and that's never happened. Another Dublin story that only seem to happen to people when they visit Dublin from the country.

It was a genuine question? You seem to have take offense to it?

Christ.

Obviously if it happened to you, you'd just write if off as rare because you eat out so often. I genuinely don't eat out that much, so it stood out to me - hence I remembered it.

warpdrive · 17-12-2015 02:39PM

The idea of tipping when we have a minimum wage is funny. Because of people doing this there are probably some waiters earning more than young college educated people that don't work with customers.

rubadub · 17-12-2015 02:42PM

Uno my Uno. wrote: »

I don't tip generously, I tip appropriately.

So I would guess you object to fixed service charges? or would not just randomly pick a % to tip?

How do you work it out? I suppose you could presume they are at least on minimum wage, then factor in the time they spent serving you, then work out a reasonable wage you think they should be on for this job, then pay the difference between it and min wage.

e.g. I have actaully gotten "table service" a few times in mcdonalds. Is a % of my €2 meal ok? or do you have a minimum you would give in this case? they were extremely polite and brought napkins and everything, better than many "proper restaurants".

Now look at another restaurant, a guy gets a €200 bottle of champange and they slap on €30 service charge to open it. Is this specialist task really worth that? You may say you do not buy bottles that expensive but you should still be objecting to the principle of fixed % service charges (I know usually on parties of 6 or more).

Imagine pubs doing the same, the level of service is the same for opening drinks. Guy orders a bottle of champange, was going to give the lounge girl a tip of €2, and BAM his mate comes into the pub and suddenly there is 6 at the table so now the tip is €30.

EagererBeaver · 17-12-2015 03:08PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

No, that's not the norm anywhere, I've been dining in Dublin for years, more than twice a week and that's never happened. Another Dublin story that only seem to happen to people when they visit Dublin from the country.

Nonsense. It is not the norm but to imply it never happens is utter bollocks.

17-12-2015 03:13PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I disagree but fair enough. I've had plenty of service where there's nothing personal about it. Even if it was though, why tip for a more personal service if that service is ****e?

I hate when they're overly personal with you to the point where they'll sit down with you in your booth or whatever. To me, that's overly forward and too familiar.

flas · 17-12-2015 03:13PM

warpdrive wrote: »

The idea of tipping when we have a minimum wage is funny. Because of people doing this there are probably some waiters earning more than young college educated people that don't work with customers.

The cheek of them,earning more money than other people,who do they think they are! Back in their hovels with the servant class!

tonycascarino · 17-12-2015 03:15PM

People get paid a fair wage to do their job. That's enough. Nobody should feel obliged to tip for services. As someone else mentioned already if it says the meal at the restaurant is €20 then that's all you're getting just the same as when I go to the shop and it says that the cake is €6 then that's all you're getting. Nothing more & nothing less.

osarusan · 17-12-2015 03:16PM

Paramite Pie wrote: »

It was a genuine question? You seem to have take offense to it? Christ.

You besmirched the character of Dublin, cast a faint shadow on its light, sullied its purity, with your tale.

And that is something up with which John Rambo will not put.

Mal-Adjusted · 17-12-2015 03:30PM

I don't really tip, maybe the odd time for a very good service, but it is certainly not the default position. It just seems ridiculous and rather arbitrary that a person in x job should get an extra 20% (tax free) while a person in y job shouldn't. I can understand it in America where they're basically on slave wages but for here there's no logical justification.

John_Rambo · 17-12-2015 03:35PM

Paramite Pie wrote: »

It was a genuine question? You seem to have take offense to it? Christ.

Obviously if it happened to you, you'd just write if off as rare because you eat out so often. I genuinely don't eat out that much, so it stood out to me - hence I remembered it.

I didn’t take offence, as popular as it seems today!

I just though it was one of those stories. You know, the ones where people come up to Dublin to do a bit of shopping and watch a match and get raped, held up with a syringe, catch AIDS, get murdered, stabbed, shot at, vomited on, spat at, witness animal cruelty, knocked down, get stuck for fifty two hours in traffic, get tasered, drug raped, get beaten up on the Luas, ran over by the DART, attacked by a bull terrier, slagged off by scum, questioned by a criminal gang.

And short changed. You see these stories about Dublin on the internet all the time and they always happen to people not from Dublin, but from Ireland.

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Nonsense. It is not the norm but to imply it never happens is utter bollocks.

I said it never happened to me! Read the posts!

Sleepy · 17-12-2015 03:49PM

I begrudgingly tip in a restaurant out of not wanting to look cheap but it's always irked me. I'll always remember an ex who worked part-time as a waitress in college whilst I was working part-time in a supermarket tearing strips off me for not tipping. We were a perfect example of why it was crazy - she got the same wage as I did but came home with nearly twice the cash simply for being a pretty girl who happened to work in an industry that benefits from the Americanisation of our culture.

I'd be much more inclined to tip bar staff but only when they're particularly good (don't slop the pints, remember my order , get the order quickly despite being busy etc.) and would be pretty free about tipping in other environments if it rounds handily and I'm in a good mood e.g. last night I threw the change into the tips jar in Costa at the cinema because the staff were there way after their normal hours so that I could see Star Wars early

But the notion that waiting staff are entitled to 10% of the cost of my meal, tax free just because it's what we see in American media? Sorry, that gets on my nerves.

J Mysterio · 17-12-2015 04:00PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Tipping is the done thing in Dublin, particularly in restaurants. I’m from Dublin, so I tip if the service is good. It’s the same in Cork, Belfast, Waterford, Galway and other cities.

“WTF” is your problem?

Muppet. My point was tipping is not exclusive to Dublin.

You are now just expanding the catchment area of locations where people tip as if its only a thing which people from larger cities do.

Either you have some sort of superiority complex or you are embarassingly ignorant.

John_Rambo · 17-12-2015 05:39PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Muppet. My point was tipping is not exclusive to Dublin.

Silly Post! I never said it was! You saw "From Dublin, so yeah, I tip" and read "Only people from Dublin tip"!

J Mysterio wrote: »

Either you have some sort of superiority complex or you are embarassingly ignorant.

I'll let you off with the name calling because you misread my post. Carry on.

(although I should be offended, seeing that it's so in vogue at the moment)

J Mysterio · 17-12-2015 05:46PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Silly Post! I never said it was! You saw "From Dublin, so yeah, I tip" and read "Only people from Dublin tip"!

Well, 'from Dublin, so yeah, I tip' implies that if you are from Dublin, you tip. The statement also inherently sets Dublin apart from other places.

Anyway, I appreciate your clarification, so.. meh.

EagererBeaver · 17-12-2015 05:52PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

I didn’t take offence, as popular as it seems today!

I just though it was one of those stories. You know, the ones where people come up to Dublin to do a bit of shopping and watch a match and get raped, held up with a syringe, catch AIDS, get murdered, stabbed, shot at, vomited on, spat at, witness animal cruelty, knocked down, get stuck for fifty two hours in traffic, get tasered, drug raped, get beaten up on the Luas, ran over by the DART, attacked by a bull terrier, slagged off by scum, questioned by a criminal gang.

And short changed. You see these stories about Dublin on the internet all the time and they always happen to people not from Dublin, but from Ireland.

I said it never happened to me! Read the posts!

No, you, quite snidely in fact, implied it was a load of made up balls. You may not have meant to imply that (but let's be honest, you absolutely meant to), but you did.

John_Rambo · 17-12-2015 05:53PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Well, 'from Dublin, so yeah, I tip' implies that if you are from Dublin, you tip. The statement also inherently sets Dublin apart from other places.

Nonsense. "I'm a New Yorker, so I tip" doesn't exclude Bostonian's from tipping. It does hint that there's a culture of tipping in New York that doesn't prevail everywhere in America. The exact same applies in Ireland.

So take your hand wringing offense, shock and outrage off with yourself!

J Mysterio wrote: »

Anyway, I appreciate your clarification, so.. meh.

Any time dude.

Paramite Pie · 17-12-2015 06:03PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

I just though it was one of those stories. You know, the ones where people come up to Dublin to do a bit of shopping and watch a match and get raped, held up with a syringe, catch AIDS, get murdered, stabbed, shot at, vomited on, spat at, witness animal cruelty, knocked down, get stuck for fifty two hours in traffic, get tasered, drug raped, get beaten up on the Luas, ran over by the DART, attacked by a bull terrier, slagged off by scum, questioned by a criminal gang.

Well I had blocked it out from memory but the waitress 'taking her tip' was only the beginning -- ya see I decided to do some shopping and go see a match and............

*sobs*

Mister Vain · 17-12-2015 06:32PM

Whenever the word Dublin is mentioned Rambo goes into full on attack mode.

J Mysterio · 17-12-2015 06:37PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Nonsense. "I'm a New Yorker, so I tip" doesn't exclude Bostonian's from tipping. It does hint that there's a culture of tipping in New York that doesn't prevail everywhere in America. The exact same applies in Ireland.

The same doesnt apply in Ireland you obnoxious oaf. People tip in Tipperary town, in Tullamore and in Killarney. They tip all over. People are just people and throughout this thread you have demonstrated a belief that people from Dublin are somehow more enlightened and have better social graces - i'm afraid you yourself disprove that, aside from the fact its utter nonsense.

J Mysterio · 17-12-2015 06:38PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

Whenever the word Dublin is mentioned Rambo goes into full on attack mode.

Indeed - very superior and condescending.

EagererBeaver · 17-12-2015 06:42PM

On top of the condescending obnoxiousness, "I'm from Dublin ergo I tip" is just wrong in the first place. I'm from Belfast and lived in Dublin for ten years and now live in Barcelona. A right city slicker by his definition. Sometimes I tip. Sometimes I tip a lot. Sometimes I don't tip at all. It's got absolutely shag all to do with where I'm from.

Mesrine65 · 17-12-2015 06:43PM

I'm a Dub & I don't tip :eek:

EagererBeaver · 17-12-2015 06:43PM

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I'm a Dub & I don't tip :eek:

Controversial...

Mesrine65 · 17-12-2015 06:44PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Controversial...

Tight arse bastid :pac::pac::pac:

Is tipping now expected in Ireland?

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