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Saudi millionaire who claimed he fell and 'accidentally penetrated teen' cleared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    If you think irish judges are bad, this is just bonkers. A girl claims she woke up to find millionaire property developer raping her, he denies they had sex. Then after DNA evidence was found inside her, he claims he fell onto the sofa and somehow ended up inside her, completely by accident.

    The judge accepts this and he is cleared. I wonder if the fact that he is Saudia and a millionaire got anything to do with it. They seem to get away with an awful lot

    The judge didn't clear him, a jury did.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,937 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Where was this case? If it was in Saudi Arabia, then it might as well have been a cow or a sheep whose word was against the man for all the rights women are given in Saudi Arabia. She'll probably get stoned to death for adultery instead. Lovely country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    5starpool wrote: »
    Where was this case? If it was in Saudi Arabia, then it might as well have been a cow or a sheep whose word was against the man for all the rights women are given in Saudi Arabia. She'll probably get stoned to death for adultery instead. Lovely country.

    This happened in London


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,937 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    This happened in London

    Ah ok. Did you ninja edit add the link to the story? I'd swear it wasn't there when I read it first. Perhaps I've gone mad though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    5starpool wrote: »
    Where was this case? If it was in Saudi Arabia, then it might as well have been a cow or a sheep whose word was against the man for all the rights women are given in Saudi Arabia. She'll probably get stoned to death for adultery instead. Lovely country.

    In London.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.html

    He didn't say that was what happened, he said that is what may have happened, after he had finished having sex with the girl's friend (which doesn't seem to be in dispute), as that would have explained his semen in her vagina.

    He also speculated that ended up there as it was on his hand after he had finished having sex with the girl's friend and (as he claims) the second girl pulled his hand between her legs when she initiated sexual activity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    5starpool wrote: »
    Ah ok. Did you ninja edit add the link to the story? I'd swear it wasn't there when I read it first. Perhaps I've gone mad though.

    It wasn't. My post has quoted the original OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    It wasn't. My post has quoted the original OP.


    Added the link after posting. I always lose the original text if I change tabs to copy a link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Added the link after posting. I always lose the original text if I change tabs to copy a link

    But that wasn't the only edit, was it? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    But that wasn't the only edit, was it? ;)


    As I said, I frequently lose the text when flicking between tabs so I added further info after making the OP. Is that not allowed? It's not like I'm changing it a long time after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Jury tampering?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    This story smells all kind of wrong. The judgement is extremely worrying. The fact he was allowed talk with the judge in chambers adds to this in a big way. I wonder if this was Joe Bloggs from Islington would he get off so lightly or be accommodated in this way? I really bloody doubt it. Millionaire businessman? Hmmm OK there's the no gaol door.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It could happen to any influential Saudi.

    I see they were in the Cirque Le Soir, a place that would be due an Islamist suicide bombing if there ever was one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I'm sure the jury will have a nice Christmas (cha-ching).

    Sickening stuff. These Saudi pricks get away with anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    osarusan wrote: »
    In London.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.html

    He didn't say that was what happened, he said that is what may have happened, after he had finished having sex with the girl's friend (which doesn't seem to be in dispute), as that would have explained his semen in her vagina.

    He also speculated that ended up there as it was on his hand after he had finished having sex with the girl's friend and (as he claims) the second girl pulled his hand between her legs when she initiated sexual activity.

    He claimed that the girl put his hand between her legs originally. Then when he was re interviewed after his DNA was found inside her he brought up the claim hat he fell on her naked with an erection and accidentally penetrated her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    He claimed that the girl put his hand between her legs originally. Then when he was re interviewed after his DNA was found inside her he brought up the claim hat he fell on her naked with an erection and accidentally penetrated her.

    Jaysis. I'll have to start been more careful down my local Tescos, the milk aisle can be awfully slippy sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,954 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Disgusting.:mad:

    Looks like money can indeed get you off the hook...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    It's as bad as Snake in the Simpsons while in hospital. So, I fell on a bullet and it kinda drove it's self in my gut.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    He claimed that the girl put his hand between her legs originally. Then when he was re interviewed after his DNA was found inside her he brought up the claim hat he fell on her naked with an erection and accidentally penetrated her.

    Utterly believable that.

    In unrelated news, money is a great man to have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭opiniated


    You couldn't make it up! :mad:
    (Unless you were a Saudi millionaire, that is!)

    Utterly sickening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    How the fook was she sleeping if he was able to fall, whilst erect, next to her and penetrate???
    Must be a bastard sharing the blanket with her.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    And people get surprised when far right wing or smash the state socialists hold appeal.
    Not enough for them to own half the place they're now getting investor friendly justice


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 178 ✭✭BenedrylPete


    Settle down folks.

    This is actually a believable story if you'd care to look a little closer.

    So stop with the knee-jerk wise cracks.



    (Apologies for the above - my fingers slipped :D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Wibbs wrote: »
    This story smells all kind of wrong. The judgement is extremely worrying. The fact he was allowed talk with the judge in chambers adds to this in a big way. I wonder if this was Joe Bloggs from Islington would he get off so lightly or be accommodated in this way? I really bloody doubt it. Millionaire businessman? Hmmm OK there's the no gaol door.

    It was in camera not in chambers. Huge difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Wow, I thought for a second that it was in Saudi Arabia or something, because I honestly would have expected something like this. As horrible as that is for me to say. But in England? What a joke.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,311 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    What a sham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭kettlehead


    This is from The Onion, right? This can't be real life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Because their one the US & UK's closest allies stories like this are largely ignored by western media, if it was a Palestinian millionaire (not that there's much) it would be all over the place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Because their one the US & UK's closest allies stories like this are largely ignored by western media, if it was a Palestinian millionaire (not that there's much) it would be all over the place.

    Nah its not grand strategy its because them and the various Gulf states own half of London.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    The judge didn't instruct the jury to acquit did he? Has to be something more to the story not reported to the media for the jury to acquit after half an hour. One would hope so anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Surely the DPP will look at this and order a re-trial?

    I mean WTF kind of bull**** is this!!!


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