The Daily bets, Banter & Accumulators thread III

9de5q7tsr8u2im · 15-12-2015 06:35PM

this may seem a ridiculous question but i always wondered do you get more betting on accumulators rather than singles and doubles?
i'm not taking the accumulator bonus offered by some bookies by the way like bet365, just in general!
i've always seemed to believe you get slightly more if you do like 4/5 fold onwards !

SteelyDanJalapeno · 15-12-2015 06:54PM

LuckyDude12 wrote: »

this may seem a ridiculous question but i always wondered do you get more betting on accumulators rather than singles and doubles?
i'm not taking the accumulator bonus offered by some bookies by the way like bet365, just in general!
i've always seemed to believe you get slightly more if you do like 4/5 fold onwards !

I don't understand the question

Mr. Green · 15-12-2015 07:01PM

LuckyDude12 wrote: »

but i always wondered do you get more betting on accumulators rather than singles and doubles?

Usually I play singles.
Very rare double.
And very very rarely treble. I
think that these bonuses lure unsuspecting players.
It is better to play single with good odds.

Just my opinion

clickerquicklic · 15-12-2015 07:22PM

It's not doubles singles or ten folds that matter it's the odds your taking that matters. A 10 fold with all selections been best odds you can find or odds you consider value is better than a single at poor odds.

magherakid · 15-12-2015 07:26PM

Double just over even money

Deportivo La Coruna 4/9
Inter Milan 4/9

closcriobh · 15-12-2015 07:41PM

Liking the look of Brighton DNB tonight at EVS. Would take them for win but QPR's defending has been brilliant lately to be fair to them.

mrdmb · 15-12-2015 07:47PM

Cagliari double chance odds 2.7

lamoss · 15-12-2015 07:58PM

Burnley Double chance @ 1.83 with P/P

shmeee · 15-12-2015 08:05PM

Why oh why am I drawn towards Hartlepool -1 @ 15/8?

They dusted me in the first game for a few bets and said never again but Jayus they can beat this Salford crowd by more than one goal.

Yes, Hartlepool took some trimming at weekend, 4-0 away to Portsmouth.

Going into powers to collect a few euro so may go in on the 15/8.

buckfasterer · 15-12-2015 08:14PM

Christmas shopping and drinking has me skint so gone with over 2.5 goals in all the Championship games tonight.......works out at 883/1. Gone with a whole €1 on it for ****s and giggles. Please don't judge me

tinodz · 15-12-2015 08:17PM

All eggs in the Wilson basket (QPR v Brighton)...

Wilson Anytime @ 3.50
Willson MOTM @ 7.00
Wilson First Goalscorer @8.00
Wilson 2 or more @ 19.00
Wilson Hat Trick @ 151.00

CriticEyes · 15-12-2015 08:19PM

Salford to qualify @ 4/1.

seanhynes · 15-12-2015 08:23PM

NEC are serious pieces of ****

clickerquicklic · 15-12-2015 08:33PM

Just one bet Austin fgs 5/1 coral 9/2 hills refund 2nd and Betfair topped up.

mrdmb · 15-12-2015 08:33PM

mrdmb wrote: »

Cagliari double chance odds 2.7

Just to point out prices on Cagliari +2.0 goals handicap has been drifting in favor of Cagliair...4 hours ago it was 1.61 now its 1.53 in the same book...

tinodz · 15-12-2015 08:36PM

LuckyDude12 wrote: »

this may seem a ridiculous question but i always wondered do you get more betting on accumulators rather than singles and doubles?
i'm not taking the accumulator bonus offered by some bookies by the way like bet365, just in general!
i've always seemed to believe you get slightly more if you do like 4/5 fold onwards !

This is a confusing question. I guess you probably know this part already, but I will explain it anyway...

Let's say you are betting on this makebelieve treble

Someone to score a Goal @ 2.50
A team to Win @ 2.20
A team to score over 1.5 goals @ 1.90

The way the odds for this are calculated is multiplying the three odds together

2.50 x 2.20 x 1.90 = 10.45

You are not getting extra here, the odds are defined by simple math. For a treble you are relying on predicting three outcomes, not just one, so there is more risk involved.

Sometimes a bookie will offer enhanced odds to you, giving you a small percentage more than the norm on your winnings on a predetermined set of games. Usually about a 10%-15% increase on the actual odds If you pay attention, they always seem to throw in a bogey team to kick the odds back in their favour. An example of this would be god damned Liverpool.

Personally, I always find it better to try for a high odds single rather than adding together small odds to make an accumulator. I will happily bet on a single player to score two goals at a good price before looking for a bunch of separate teams to do the job for me. This is just my opinion, not a set rule. Everyone bets different ways.

Sorry if I am explaining stuff you already know, the question was vague, so just tried to simplify things.

Lasagna Diarra · 15-12-2015 09:55PM

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

Guingamp have lost their last 4 games and are playing tomorrow

Guingamp @ 2.35 small bet, I can see this end as a draw... I'd take DNB if it was available...

1-1

as expected Guingamp did not lose tonight! too bad the odds on DC were too low

Dio On The Doubles · 15-12-2015 09:56PM

Gone for Mitroglou anytime for Benfica kicking off in 5 minutes @2.4 on betfair.

Scoring regular lately for them. Jonas will be on the pens though.

shmeee · 15-12-2015 10:14PM

tinodz wrote: »

All eggs in the Wilson basket (QPR v Brighton)...

Wilson Anytime @ 3.50
Willson MOTM @ 7.00
Wilson First Goalscorer @8.00
Wilson 2 or more @ 19.00
Wilson Hat Trick @ 151.00

On a few of these and have the notifications on the phone, leave it down for 5 mins and come back to see Brighton have scored 2 goals, I'm like surely to **** Wilson has banged in one. But no. Was counting my money. Still time.

Light them candles again lads. They worked a treat the last day we needed so Devine help.

9de5q7tsr8u2im · 15-12-2015 10:16PM

tinodz wrote: »

This is a confusing question. I guess you probably know this part already, but I will explain it anyway...

Let's say you are betting on this makebelieve treble

Someone to score a Goal @ 2.50
A team to Win @ 2.20
A team to score over 1.5 goals @ 1.90

The way the odds for this are calculated is multiplying the three odds together

2.50 x 2.20 x 1.90 = 10.45

You are not getting extra here, the odds are defined by simple math. For a treble you are relying on predicting three outcomes, not just one, so there is more risk involved.

Sometimes a bookie will offer enhanced odds to you, giving you a small percentage more than the norm on your winnings on a predetermined set of games. Usually about a 10%-15% increase on the actual odds If you pay attention, they always seem to throw in a bogey team to kick the odds back in their favour. An example of this would be god damned Liverpool.

Personally, I always find it better to try for a high odds single rather than adding together small odds to make an accumulator. I will happily bet on a single player to score two goals at a good price before looking for a bunch of separate teams to do the job for me. This is just my opinion, not a set rule. Everyone bets different ways.

Sorry if I am explaining stuff you already know, the question was vague, so just tried to simplify things.

Thanks for the informative answer yeah I understand now thanks a mill!
Changes my whole perspective on accumulators cheers!

magherakid · 15-12-2015 10:50PM

magherakid wrote: »

Double just over even money

Deportivo La Coruna 4/9
Inter Milan 4/9

nope

mrdmb · 15-12-2015 10:54PM

mrdmb wrote: »

Just to point out prices on Cagliari +2.0 goals handicap has been drifting in favor of Cagliair...4 hours ago it was 1.61 now its 1.53 in the same book...

Bad play

mailburner · 15-12-2015 11:45PM

lukaku 9
vardy 7
giroud 6
kane 2
de bruyne 1

25 for that fantasy bet...not gonna touch that again
de bruyne coming on with 23 mins left in the game or vardy getting
that yellow card cost me that extra point
fixtures are stink this week anyway

retalivity · 16-12-2015 09:46AM

Taking river plate vs sanfrecce @1.9 in the world club cup.

Sanfrecce have played 2 games already, river's first, winners get to play barcelona. River played in some cup in japan in august and beat gamba osaka 3-0.

Dio On The Doubles · 16-12-2015 10:55AM

Dio On The Doubles wrote: »

Gone for Mitroglou anytime for Benfica kicking off in 5 minutes @2.4 on betfair.

Scoring regular lately for them. Jonas will be on the pens though.

0-0

Even though there was no Gaitan I thought Benfica would put one or two past these guys. Porto put four past em lately.

Lesson learned, With Gaitan out look at laying Benfica. They were @1.33 last night before ko.

Hitting the A league this morning, kicking off in a few minutes Perth v Melbourne.

Main bet on Melbourne win and over 2.5 goals in match doubled with over 4.5 cards @4.79

Taking smaller on Berisha 1st goal scorer for old times sake @4.33

PopePalpatine · 16-12-2015 11:17AM

I'd say River Plate would be a lot fresher, their last game was at the end of November.

inforfun · 16-12-2015 11:51AM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'd say River Plate would be a lot fresher, their last game was at the end of November.

Had a long domestic season after winning the copa libertadores and did get to the semis in the copa sudamericana.
Fresh is relative here after a flight of such length

Lasagna Diarra · 16-12-2015 12:11PM

PSG -1 @ 1.57
PSG -2 @ 2.45
PSG to score 5+ goals @ 6.50

St Etienne are basically sending their youth team: http://www.asse.fr/fr/Actualites-du-club/Psg-asse--le-groupe-ac16215
all their best players have been left out cuz they know they dont really stand a chance against PSG and their game vs Angers at the weekend is clearly their priority. Their defense looks incredibly weak.
PSG have called their best possible squad, no youth team player in the squad for tonight's game.

the only way these bets won't come in is if PSG stop caring when they go 1 or 2-0 up or if Cavani starts ahead of Ibra as he's an awful finisher.

ps: the rule says that St Etienne must field 7 players who have played in at least one of the club's two previous games, but that includes their meaningless game against Lazio where they fielded a lot of subs/reserves

this is the best line up they could field with the players called up:
Moulin
Pierre Gabriel-Dekoke-Polomat-Brison
Clement-Lemoine
Eysseric-Cohade-Bamba
Maupay

but I doubt they'll field such a "strong" squad when they've basically given up and even if they do, PSG should easily beat them

Saint Sonner · 16-12-2015 12:51PM

Had one of those moments where I made the right call re cash out last out - always nice.

Had 4 teams done 3 up after game complete and I was waiting for Salford City to qualify. Cashed out at full time though and with Hartlepool going on to score twice in extra time I was delighted!

retalivity · 16-12-2015 01:25PM

retalivity wrote: »

Taking river plate vs sanfrecce @1.9 in the world club cup.

Sanfrecce have played 2 games already, river's first, winners get to play barcelona. River played in some cup in japan in august and beat gamba osaka 3-0.

Noice

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