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What do you call this? Regional wordings

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    kelslat wrote: »
    Where is this all going? What happened to the sprong?

    We cleared that up, tis a grape :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    whelan2 wrote: »
    its all kovu's fault

    Bah humbug :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    barnaman wrote: »
    Billhook or Slashhook? Noone from Longford allowed to decide .. disbarred as professionals!

    I would say slashers as well, rather than slashhook...

    Bit a bill hook and a slasher / shalshhook are two different things...

    Or are they the one tool / implement in Longford?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    This thread had fallen clean off the tracks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Ah, I only copped nek's post after I had posted...

    Why would ye have miniature ones, and why would they be tropheys Base?
    My late Uncle won them in competitions.
    He and others in the surrounding counties felt that the old ways were dying out and with the help of the National Ploughing Association the tradition was saved and still lives on to this day.
    Years ago around in my Mams place (Longford/Cavan) the Loy was used to plough the sod in acre gardens so you could set seed potatoes to feed the family. Not everyone was a farmer with acerage and horses/mules and ridge ploughs.
    Here is a pic of an AGM from 1997 - my Uncle, some of our neighbours and extended relatives are in the pic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭ABlur


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Sorry, I was just winding. The trophy was pixie sized, that's all.

    As my penance, I offer ul this photo. Any of ye from Leinster or Munster tell me what it's for?

    For pulling weeds out of our numerous drains. Don't have a name for it but pain in the back usually results!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Base price wrote: »
    My late Uncle won them in competitions.
    He and others in the surrounding counties felt that the old ways were dying out and with the help of the National Ploughing Association the tradition was saved and still lives on to this day.
    Years ago around in my Mams place (Longford) the Loy was used to plough the sod in acre gardens so you could set seed potatoes to feed the family. Not everyone was a farmer with acerage and horses/mules and ridge ploughs.
    Here is a pic of an AGM from 1997 - my Uncle, some of our neighbours and extended relatives are in the pic.

    We had something like it at home when I was small, not sure where it is now...

    We were always told 'twas for planting spuds...
    A big heavy ignorant prick of a thing, you'd be better off with a shovel... But I pose they didn't hae shovels when that yoke was being used... We never had a name for it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭kelslat


    I don't think this will ever be cleared up, had this row in Ag college 17 or 18 years ago. I wonder is it the different regions with different names for it. I call it a sprong and I'm in Tipperary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    barnaman wrote: »
    Billhook or Slashhook? Noone from Longford allowed to decide .. disbarred as professionals!
    Since I was not born in Longford I can categorically state that it IS A Slashhook :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    We had something like it at home when I was small, not sure where it is now...

    We were always told 'twas for planting spuds...
    A big heavy ignorant prick of a thing, you'd be better off with a shovel... But I pose they didn't hae shovels when that yoke was being used... We never had a name for it...
    Really. I didn't know the Loy or a version of it went so far South. Would be interesting to know, would be great if you could get a pic of it.
    I understand that Loys or simular versions of them were used in the Islands off Galway and the Northern Counties.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Base price wrote: »
    My late Uncle won them in competitions.
    He and others in the surrounding counties felt that the old ways were dying out and with the help of the National Ploughing Association the tradition was saved and still lives on to this day.
    Years ago around in my Mams place (Longford) the Loy was used to plough the sod in acre gardens so you could set seed potatoes to feed the family. Not everyone was a farmer with acerage and horses/mules and ridge ploughs.
    Here is a pic of an AGM from 1997 - my Uncle, some of our neighbours and extended relatives are in the pic.

    Ah Jaysus would ya look at Glenn, the picture of innocence :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Base price wrote: »
    Really. I didn't know the Loy or a version of it went so far South. Would be interesting to know, would be great if you could get a pic of it.
    I understand that Loys or simular versions of them were used in the Islands off Galway and the Northern Counties.

    I'll have a look the next time am home, maybe the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Sorry, I was just winding. The trophy was pixie sized, that's all.

    As my penance, I offer ul this photo. Any of ye from Leinster or Munster tell me what it's for?
    Haven't the foggiest but it looks like a yoke for gathering sea weed from The Field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    Base price wrote: »
    Really. I didn't know the Loy or a version of it went so far South. Would be interesting to know, would be great if you could get a pic of it.
    I understand that Loys or simular versions of them were used in the Islands off Galway and the Northern Counties.

    I ploughed with a loy in npa matches back around that time as well - I seemed to like hardship back then + I couldn't afford a farm all cub and single sod plough And I'm a lot further south that u Bp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Sorry, I was just winding. The trophy was pixie sized, that's all.

    As my penance, I offer ul this photo. Any of ye from Leinster or Munster tell me what it's for?

    A drag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Base price wrote: »
    Haven't the foggiest but it looks like a yoke for gathering sea weed from The Field.

    We always called it "A drag"
    Used for pulling the scraw off a drain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    barnaman wrote: »
    Billhook or Slashhook? Noone from Longford allowed to decide .. disbarred as professionals!

    Aren't they 2 different machines ? The slashhook was rounded and the bill hook had an angled hook that was handy for getting right down to the root of a briar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    First Kovu is after all wrong! I asked father in 70s what a grape was and he said its a fork with three curved sprongs used for cleaning dung. Was adament it was 3 sprongs . so googled three pronged dung fork

    and here is the definite answer

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=GkAHAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA340&lpg=PA340&dq=three+pronged+fork+grape&source=bl&ots=FaxC0er8Ue&sig=4SByDv6bcUyKA9qedw114JtHdXY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig7OHJ48rJAhVG2Q4KHWEsCg4Q6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=three%20pronged%20fork%20grape&f=false

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=QuI_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA504&dq=loy+ireland&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_7PWT48rJAhVBkg8KHWsxCPIQ6AEIPDAG#v=onepage&q=grape&f=false

    He also told me to do some work; and what was I ejiting at!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    barnaman wrote: »
    First Kovu is after all wrong! I asked father in 70s what a grape was and he said its a fork with three curved sprongs used for cleaning dung. Was adament it was 3 sprongs . so googled three pronged dung fork

    and here is the definite answer

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=GkAHAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA340&lpg=PA340&dq=three+pronged+fork+grape&source=bl&ots=FaxC0er8Ue&sig=4SByDv6bcUyKA9qedw114JtHdXY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig7OHJ48rJAhVG2Q4KHWEsCg4Q6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=three%20pronged%20fork%20grape&f=false

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=QuI_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA504&dq=loy+ireland&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_7PWT48rJAhVBkg8KHWsxCPIQ6AEIPDAG#v=onepage&q=grape&f=false

    He also told me to do some work; and what was I ejiting at!

    Ha! Ok, if you put so much effort into proving me wrong I concede defeat.
    However I now look like this and that grape is not for fodder :D

    Four_Pronged_In_game.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    barnaman wrote: »
    First Kovu is after all wrong! I asked father in 70s what a grape was and he said its a fork with three curved sprongs used for cleaning dung. Was adament it was 3 sprongs . so googled three pronged dung fork

    and here is the definite answer

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=GkAHAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA340&lpg=PA340&dq=three+pronged+fork+grape&source=bl&ots=FaxC0er8Ue&sig=4SByDv6bcUyKA9qedw114JtHdXY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig7OHJ48rJAhVG2Q4KHWEsCg4Q6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=three%20pronged%20fork%20grape&f=false

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=QuI_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA504&dq=loy+ireland&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_7PWT48rJAhVBkg8KHWsxCPIQ6AEIPDAG#v=onepage&q=grape&f=false

    He also told me to do some work; and what was I ejiting at!
    And YOU believe Google for the definite answer - get up the yard :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Kovu wrote: »
    Ha! Ok, if you put so much effort into proving me wrong I concede defeat.
    However I now look like this and that grape is not for fodder :D

    Four_Pronged_In_game.png
    Oh you dyed your hair again :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    But also AHA
    Also termed grape here- http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-586832.html

    and

    See point two.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grape_(disambiguation)

    dkHO01th.png?1

    (Plz ignore bookmarks :o)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Kovu wrote: »

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    OK all ye smarty pants - what do ye call this - no answers from Longford, Cavan, Leitrim and the Northern Counties.
    It was originally my Granddad's but the handle broke whilst using it about 8 years ago. Haven't got a new handle on it since.

    Nekarsulm - tape your fingers up with insulation tape so you cannot respond :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Reggie. wrote: »
    :eek:

    What?!
    Base price wrote: »
    OK all ye smarty pants - what do ye call this - no answers from Longford, Cavan, Leitrim and the Northern Counties.
    It was originally my Granddad's but the handle broke whilst using it about 8 years ago. Haven't got a new handle on it since.

    Nekarsulm - tape your fingers up with insulation tape so you cannot respond :)

    Now even I'm lost at that one. Pierce I know but as to what it is :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Please Miss, please Miss, I know, I know.........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Please Miss, please Miss, I know, I know.........

    It's a specialised grape, isn't it ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Base price wrote: »
    OK all ye smarty pants - what do ye call this - no answers from Longford, Cavan, Leitrim and the Northern Counties.
    It was originally my Granddad's but the handle broke whilst using it about 8 years ago. Haven't got a new handle on it since.

    Nekarsulm - tape your fingers up with insulation tape so you cannot respond :)

    It looks like a piece of twine or dental floss, on maybe what might be a pierce beet / root chopper? Maybe... ?
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Kovu wrote: »
    What?!



    Now even I'm lost at that one. Pierce I know but as to what it is :confused:

    Pirate bay! !!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Base price wrote: »
    OK all ye smarty pants - what do ye call this - no answers from Longford, Cavan, Leitrim and the Northern Counties.
    It was originally my Granddad's but the handle broke whilst using it about 8 years ago. Haven't got a new handle on it since.

    Nekarsulm - tape your fingers up with insulation tape so you cannot respond :)

    Not much to go off


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