Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Note Post 7373

Well he hasn't done that at United.
He gave two Dutch guys, RVP and Buttner the boot.

Blind and Depay came in, and Depay is only a sub

Also he took over a squad that had just finished 7th, and brought them to 4th in his first year.
Now they are in 3rd.
So don't think you can say he messed up the squad.

keeponhurling wrote: »

Also he took over a squad that had just finished 7th, and brought them to 4th in his first year.

Meh, you say that like we were Spurs or some sort of perennial also-rans.

Yes that squad finished 7th but it wasn't a 7th place squad, it was a team full of title winners that needed a damn good effort to even drop out of the top four never mind finish 7th.

Christ, this is Manchester United you're talking about, yet to praise LVG you want to pretend he took over some midtable club and worked a miracle just to squeeze into top four.

As an example, say somebody takes over at Chelsea now and takes them back into the top four, do you think that will make the new manager a miracle worker? Or is it not simply the fact that in terms of money and quality of player top four is really where the club should be anyway?

bucketybuck wrote: »

Meh, you say that like we were Spurs or some sort of perennial also-rans.

Yes that squad finished 7th but it wasn't a 7th place squad, it was a team full of title winners that needed a damn good effort to even drop out of the top four never mind finish 7th.

Christ, this is Manchester United you're talking about, yet to praise LVG you want to pretend he took over some midtable club and worked a miracle just to squeeze into top four.

The team Moyes took over are similar to the current Chelsea team, won the league and then fell off a cliff.
Not surprising LVG got rid of most of them.

https://twitter.com/OliverKayTimes/status/673283857874055169

Lithium93_ wrote: »

We (United) really should be in for Pep, top class managers don't come around every so often.

Maybe with the Chinese money City are promising him Messi.

RobertKK wrote: »

Maybe with the Chinese money City are promising him Messi.

I wouldn't think Pep would be dumb enough to believe that going on his career decisions so far.

The telling part from that briefing, if it is indeed one, is the reference to the work he is doing behind the scenes. Ties in nicely to the laying the foundations job that he has such a great reputation for.

bangkok wrote: »

Blaming him for the boring bull**** sideways passes football that he has us playing the last year

Ah, you see your initial post made it seem like it was something to do with the game today.

Not just the daily update of Van Gaal out!! Argh!!

bangkok wrote: »

And West Ham could have scored 4.....

And we could have scored 9.....

We need a world class striker. Haven't had one since we won the league.

One that can score out of seemingly nothing. Without that we are forced into walking the ball into the net but with limited front players it easy for teams to defend against it.

From the highlights 2nd half the movement was good, some nice 1 touch passing and chances were created. Sure we could have conceded a few but we held a much bigger threat ourselves.

You don't have the firepower with Felani , a clearly overrated Mata (yes I know he played well in a Chelsea team 3 years ago) and Young as your main winger. In saying that Rooney was not missed and if anything you could argue the better build up play was because he wasn't there to loose it

Samantha Martial will go down as a legendary wife of a Manchester United player...clearly no issues with rainy Manchester...great birthday cake.

https://twitter.com/MUFCScoop/status/673242254409121792

So she calls Martial 'Toto'.

Leroy42 wrote: »

One that can score out of seemingly nothing.

This seems to be the common refrain these days, we don't know how to score so we need to buy a player who can do it on his own, who doesn't need a consistent creative threat from the rest of the team because he can thrive on being isolated and only having scraps of chances.

Its the most damnable approach I ever heard off. Not only is a superstar like that incredibly difficult to find but surely it would be better to have a team attacking threat rather than relying on one person? Take 5 good players and teach them how to play together rather than wait for one big player to come and score goals?

jayo26 wrote: »

The squad he took over was a team of players playing for fergie that was damn lucky to win the league by such a large margin in his last season.

If that squad was soo good where are all the players that lvg let go? Which top clubs are they performing for and getting rave reviews?? Where's Nani? Where's rvp? Cleverly , Wellbeck, Evans? the only player that lvg has let go that is doing well in hernandez and he wasnt even first choice under fergie or moyes and maybe you could say Eva but that's it.

Are you one of these who thinks that Fergie sprinkled magic dust on a collection of pub footballers and made them title winners, then after midnight the magic wore off and they turned crap again?

If you want you can go through individual footballers and sneer at their later careers, as if the likes of Robin Van Persie needs to be defended, as if the likes of Nani isn't exactly what we need right now. But the original point was that LVG seemingly took over a 7th place team and magically brought them to the dizzy heights of 4th, but that view is simply not accurate and does not reflect the reality of the club he is manager off.