Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Note Post 7373

Flint Fredstone · 05-12-2015 06:58PM

Pro. F wrote: »

Your responses are not intelligent enough to be worth my time anymore.

Wow. You really are up your own hole.
You got it wrong when you tried to say I was writing off Carrick and now you are wriggling out of it with your "semantics" catchphrase and throwing insults around.
Well done.

beno619 · 05-12-2015 06:59PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Not what I'm reading above...there were chances in the game yes? And they were squandered yes? Tbh I don't give a **** who missed them they were still missed. My point stands we don't have a world class finisher anymore. Rooneys form isn't recovering and all that's left is potential
If pro f thinks I'm jumping to specifically blame a individual player that's not what I'm getting at. Discussed this with buckety during the week already so I'm not going to repeat what I said

Your the one who specified Lingard, your basically arguing with your self at this point.

beno619 · 05-12-2015 07:01PM

I don't think we we lack quality up front but we clearly don'y create enough quality chances and that's down to the manager.

markc91 · 05-12-2015 07:05PM

beno619 wrote: »

I don't think we we lack quality up front but we clearly don'y create enough quality chances and that's down to the manager.

We had 21 shots today!

dixiefly · 05-12-2015 07:08PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

United should be striving for a much, MUCH higher level of manager.

That's what they did this time and see where it got them.

Have a look at Stoke's game from today, different planet to us.

But my point is a mute one as there is no way he would be considered. Besides Gaurdiola and Ancelotti who I would go for if available I think Hughes would be a really good option. Way ahead imo of what we have now and a not too dissimilar pedigree to Ferguson when he came.

Anyway just my thoughts I don't expect too many united fans to agree with me.

Pro. F · 05-12-2015 07:09PM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Wow. You really are up your own hole.
You got it wrong when you tried to say I was writing off Carrick and now you are wriggling out of it with your "semantics" catchphrase and throwing insults around.
Well done.

I'm up my own hole because I don't want to debate the definition of the phrasal verb "write off". Whatever you say champ.

05-12-2015 07:09PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I get your point, you think that we don't have any world class finishers. That's not a point that I'm interested in debating.

But that doesn't make your criticism of a player's performance in a game you didn't watch any less ridiculous.

I read that lindgard missed chances. It's suddenly ridiculous? You're entitled to an opinion.

He's missed a hell of a lot of chances in the last few weeks and I have watched every one of them in frustration except today obviously so to hear the same again...2+2 is 4

And anyway I'm not interested in debating lindgard either but he happens to be one of the collection of players not doing what they should be doing and thats the only reason I mentioned him individually.

Getting the ball in the goal when chances present themselves and this is where we are seriously lacking

Potential is potential not title winning

dixiefly · 05-12-2015 07:10PM

markc91 wrote: »

We had 21 shots today!

Last 6 HOME games
0-0
0-0
1-0
2-0
0-0
0-0

Need I say more?

keeponhurling · 05-12-2015 07:10PM

If Martial could finish United would have beaten both West Ham today, and PSV.
Things would be looking very different.

However Lingard, Mata, Fellaini, Schweinsteiger and McNair all had chances today where at the very least you'd expect would be a clean strike and shot on target.

Pro. F · 05-12-2015 07:11PM

beno619 wrote: »

I don't think we we lack quality up front but we clearly don'y create enough quality chances and that's down to the manager.

We may have created enough today, but that would probably be the first time this season. Up to this point the problem has categorically not been a finishing one.

05-12-2015 07:12PM

beno619 wrote: »

Your the one who specified Lingard, your basically arguing with your self at this point.

It's gone over your head too. OK

newballsplease · 05-12-2015 07:13PM

Im sick of watching this team.
Would like to see him sacked. Its just not entertaining anymore.

When do UTD ever boo their own team?
He persists with this style and its a load of bollix.

Pro. F · 05-12-2015 07:13PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I read that lindgard missed chances. It's suddenly ridiculous? You're entitled to an opinion.

He's missed a hell of a lot of chances in the last few weeks and I have watched every one of them in frustration except today obviously so to hear the same again...2+2 is 4

And anyway I'm not interested in debating lindgard either but he happens to be one of the collection of players not doing what they should be doing and thats the only reason I mentioned him individually.

Getting the ball in the goal when chances present themselves and this is where we are seriously lacking

Potential is potential not title winning

You vastly overestimate the number and quality of chances he has been missing.

beno619 · 05-12-2015 07:15PM

markc91 wrote: »

We had 21 shots today!

You somehow yoy missed my point, we only created 2 or 3 good chances today.

StringerBell · 05-12-2015 07:15PM

newballsplease wrote: »

Im sick of watching this team.
Would like to see him sacked. Its just not entertaining anymore.

When do UTD ever boo their own team?
He persists with this style and its a load of bollix.

Was a very good game actually in terms of entertainment.

05-12-2015 07:16PM

Pro. F wrote: »

You vastly overestimate the number and quality of chances he has been missing.

Your vastly underate the chances that were missed so we're at an impass I'm afraid

At least were getting closer to what I actually wanted to discuss

Flint Fredstone · 05-12-2015 07:16PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I'm up my own hole because I don't want to debate the definition of the phrasal verb "write off". Whatever you say champ.

If you don't see how you are up your own hole with what you said then you're even further up it than I thought.

StringerBell · 05-12-2015 07:17PM

beno619 wrote: »

You somehow yoy missed my point, we only created 2 or 3 good chances today.

Without wading in to the current argument ye have going, we had more then 2 or 3 good chances today.

beno619 · 05-12-2015 07:19PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

It's gone over your head too. OK

Nope. The real issue has just gone over yours.

Vic Vinegar · 05-12-2015 07:19PM

Wilson with a quality goal for Brighton!

dfx- · 05-12-2015 07:19PM

Tone back the argument please from a personal level. Several posters on both sides are pushing the line here towards being uncivil and abusive. Cards will follow if it continues.

bucketybuck · 05-12-2015 07:21PM

dixiefly wrote: »

Last 6 HOME games
0-0
0-0
1-0
2-0
0-0
0-0

Need I say more?

Its just coincidence!!!

keeponhurling · 05-12-2015 07:22PM

StringerBell wrote: »

Without wading in to the current argument ye have going, we had more then 2 or 3 good chances today.

They definitely upped it from previous weeks.
They played at faster pace, everything from goal kicks to corners seemed to be taken quickly , fast ball was played forward, the full backs were constantly on the attack and more men were getting into the box.
They left it a bit more open at the back too.

Just couldn't finish.

beno619 · 05-12-2015 07:25PM

StringerBell wrote: »

Without wading in to the current argument ye have going, we had more then 2 or 3 good chances today.

I dissagree. How many times were West Ham opened up as opposed to scrappy opportunities from corners or Martial brute forcing his way into decent positions ?

Martial, Fellaini, Mata had the only clear cut ones I can remember that came from good united play.

keeponhurling · 05-12-2015 07:32PM

beno619 wrote: »

I dissagree. How many times were West Ham opened up as opposed to scrappy opportunities from corners or Martial brute forcing his way into decent positions ?

Martial, Fellaini, Mata had the only clear cut ones I can remember that came from good united play.

Martial x 2, Fellaini x 2 and Mata would already give you 5....

Flint Fredstone · 05-12-2015 07:43PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Martial x 2, Fellaini x 2 and Mata would already give you 5....

Smalling had a shot blocked from close range too. There was loads of chances, West Ham defended really well in the box and some just wouldn't go in.

beno619 · 05-12-2015 07:50PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Martial x 2, Fellaini x 2 and Mata would already give you 5....

I think we should strive for a bit better but okay..

Cantona's Collars · 05-12-2015 08:04PM

At least today we saw some nice interplay around their 18 yard area and players finding space,made a change from seeing the ball played up to Rooney and being lost.
In reflection,on another day we'd have scored 3 or 4 but in the end it's still another 0-0 and there was a serious lack of urgency a lot of times in our play.

Adamocovic · 05-12-2015 08:21PM

Am I the only one sick of hearing the "Attack" chants. I know people argue they're trying to create urgency or get a point to the staff but I see it as rather pointless and embarrassing at times (more so than the football).

Team is trying to attack too, might try something more accurate like "Score!Score!Score" next time and that will help :P.

Hococop · 05-12-2015 08:23PM

Chelsea falling apart

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