RTE One HD and RTE One+1 launch on Sky

STB. · 10-09-2015 12:02PM

The Cush wrote: »

The BBC and ITV pay for their own transponders, its the retransmission services provided by Sky they no longer pay for.

They no longer pay Sky for the TP space that Sky use for retransmitting the BBC's. The costs were £10m pa. And Sky's profit was partly offf that content. ITV Ch4 and Ch5 also brokered the same deal at a cost of £15m to Sky.

Amazing how all this went away when the BBC started a campaign of threathening to charge for its content.

The Cush · 10-09-2015 02:33PM

STB. wrote: »

Amazing how all this went away when the BBC started a campaign of threathening to charge for its content.

Similar situation happening in Italy at the moment, Mediaset have basically withdrawn their channels from the Sky platform in a dispute over retransmission fees. Mediaset hold the broadcast rights to the Champions League for the next 3 seasons.

robwen · 16-10-2015 11:59AM

munchkin_utd wrote: »

sure why would anyone post a link to an announcement they are quoting?

anyhow,
http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0904/725719-sky-rte-announce-long-term-partnership/

Any date yet for the RTE Player & RTÉ News Now and RTÉ One + 1/HD etc. arriving on Sky?

Johnboy1951 · 16-10-2015 01:50PM

STB. wrote: »

Johnboy you knew the answer to that.

FTV once you are a subscriber! You know well that RTE uses encryption on 28.2 and why that is. Unfortunately Sky own that, so whilst Sky cannot charge anymore for these channels, you must be a paid up subscriber!

No I didn't, otherwise I would not have asked.

Do FTV channels not work in a Sky box with an expired card?

I thought they used to.

Probably mis-remembering, as it is many years since I handled a Sky box and/or card.

lertsnim · 16-10-2015 02:27PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

No I didn't, otherwise I would not have asked.

Do FTV channels not work in a Sky box with an expired card?

I thought they used to.

Probably mis-remembering, as it is many years since I handled a Sky box and/or card.

You are correct. If a subscription is needed to view something then it is not FTV

The Cush · 16-10-2015 02:30PM

robwen wrote: »

Any date yet for the RTE Player & RTÉ News Now and RTÉ One + 1/HD etc. arriving on Sky?

This as posted recently

ftakeith wrote: »

I phoned Sky this morning

The original bundle is going up to 30euros per month

He also told me RTE1hd and rte catch up should be available in a few weeks
I predict in early November the new RTE content will come to sky, at the same time subscribers are getting letters/e-mails to explain why the increases are happening

STB. · 18-10-2015 01:32AM

lertsnim wrote: »

You are correct. If a subscription is needed to view something then it is not FTV

That is untrue and is a common misconception about how FTV works.

Free to Air (FTA) are channels in the clear without the need for proprietary equipment.
Free to View (FTV) channels are those broadcast encrypted and can only be viewed with reception equipment that includes a suitable proprietary CAS.

In the case of Sky for Ireland, active subscription is required to view the Irish channels, but no extra cost is or can be charged for these channels.

Bear in mind that all across Europe, Free-to-view channels are also supplied by pay-TV providers, and it is the access to these free-to-view channels that you will have to pay for, even though you won't be paying for the free-to-view channels themselves. It is because they are delivered via a subscription service using a CAS.

In Germany HD+ also requires active subscription and they still differentiate that this is FTV TV, rather than pay TV.

Mickey Mike · 22-10-2015 08:40PM

zorro2566 wrote: »

Anyway, any word if the rte digital radio stations are part of this deal with sky?

I sincerely hope RTE go all the way and launch the remaining Radio stations on Sky and just get done with it.
There is plenty of room for them from 0160 to 0168, just like the order on saorview. It would be a job well done.

robwen · 30-11-2015 01:00AM

Nearly December & still no sign of the RTE player etc. arriving?

irishgeo · 30-11-2015 12:48PM

robwen wrote: »

Nearly December & still no sign of the RTE player etc. arriving?

you dont just lash it on.

i am sure it has to be reprogrammed to work with the skybox programming.

probably rounds of testing to be done.

irishfeen · 30-11-2015 01:24PM

robwen wrote: »

Nearly December & still no sign of the RTE player etc. arriving?

Highly unlikely now before Christmas .. It will be the new year at this stage... They haven't even began testing.

robwen · 03-12-2015 01:42AM

Disappointing

jimbo2007 · 03-12-2015 10:05AM

GOOD NEWS FOR YOU ALL

12.266 H SR 27500 FEC 5/6 DVB-S QPSK

2808 - this is currently carrying RTE 1. So this is likely to become RTE 1 +1 I would have thought but can't be sure.

Also, keep an eye on the following -= not yet on air

10.936 V SR 23000 FEC 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK

2816 - currently at no signal (configured as HD)

11.758 H SR 29500 FEC 3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK

2817 - currently at no signal (configured as HD)

Given we have now identified one of them, it is highly likely that the other two will be for RTE's services. The SID numbers are similar - so are probably related.

There is also another HD stream on

11.719 H SR 29500 FEC 3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK

1528 - currently at no signal (configured as HD)

but not sure what this is for.

murpho999 · 03-12-2015 01:11PM

jimbo2007 wrote: »

GOOD NEWS FOR YOU ALL

12.266 H SR 27500 FEC 5/6 DVB-S QPSK

2808 - this is currently carrying RTE 1. So this is likely to become RTE 1 +1 I would have thought but can't be sure.

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Ok, good stuff, do we know from past additions what time frames are normally involved from this stage to being added to the EPG?

jimbo2007 · 03-12-2015 03:23PM

The switchover period can be up to 23 days but sometimes longer.

Some other good news - 2816 as shown above - has now been modulated as HD and is carrying what looks like RTE 1 (in HD).

Very soon you should be able to see it but exactly when I do not know.

Timescales vary from channel to channel so I cannot be sure I'm afraid.

galtee boy · 03-12-2015 05:39PM

jimbo2007 wrote: »

The switchover period can be up to 23 days but sometimes longer.

Some other good news - 2816 as shown above - has now been modulated as HD and is carrying what looks like RTE 1 (in HD).

Very soon you should be able to see it but exactly when I do not know.

Timescales vary from channel to channel so I cannot be sure I'm afraid.

Great news jimbo, only showing blue screens at the moment, is that normal ?

Rick_ · 03-12-2015 05:44PM

Yes, they are only tests, so no-one is supposed to be able to watch them.

Usually, Sky require 3 (IIRC) weeks of testing before a channel is allowed to launch on Sky. It is doubtful that these channels will appear on Sky before the cut-off for Christmas, which is in a fortnight. You never know though.

galtee boy · 03-12-2015 05:54PM

pad e wrote: »

Yes, they are only tests, so no-one is supposed to be able to watch them.

Usually, Sky require 3 (IIRC) weeks of testing before a channel is allowed to launch on Sky. It is doubtful that these channels will appear on Sky before the cut-off for Christmas, which is in a fortnight. You never know though.

I would hope that there is a push on from RTE to get the HD channel up and running in time for Christmas. It's 3 weeks tomorrow to Christmas Day, so surely there's time.

Gerry Wicklow · 03-12-2015 06:09PM

Sorry for Ot but can anyone confirm if RTÉ 2 is full HD on Sky or just 1440?

lertsnim · 03-12-2015 06:15PM

It is 1920*1080

twinklerunner · 03-12-2015 06:56PM

Epg numbers?

101 RTE 1 HD
115 RTE 1+1
503 RTE News Now

SD versions of RTE 1 & 2 pushed down the epg

Rick_ · 03-12-2015 10:23PM

galtee boy wrote: »

I would hope that there is a push on from RTE to get the HD channel up and running in time for Christmas. It's 3 weeks tomorrow to Christmas Day, so surely there's time.

Nope, the freeze is in 2 weeks time and Sky usually require 3 weeks of testing. So, it is possible that these new channels won't actually launch until mid-January, unless Sky and RTÉ have some sort of deal in pace to not require the usual period of testing before launch. But if they go wrong over Christmas there will be hell to pay for people losing TV during the biggest time of year for broadcasters.

irishfeen · 03-12-2015 10:36PM

twinklerunner wrote: »

Epg numbers?

101 RTE 1 HD
115 RTE 1+1
503 RTE News Now

SD versions of RTE 1 & 2 pushed down the epg

I think we could see a slight change on the Irish EPG -

101 RTÉ One HD
102 RTÉ2 HD
103 TV3 SD/HD
104 TG4
105 3e

115 RTÉ One +1
116 UTV Ireland SD/HD
117 TV3 +1
118 - Available in ROI
119 - Available in ROI
120 - Available in ROI

267 UTV Ireland SD/HD
268 RTE One SD
269 RTÉ2 SD

273 TV3 SD/HD

503 RTÉ News Now
504 Oireachtas TV

Interesting to note the three prime empty EPG slots... Irish variations of ITV2, 3 & 4 would slot in perfectly with today's confirmation of the UTV Ireland sale to ITV.

irishfeen · 03-12-2015 10:55PM

galtee boy wrote: »

I would hope that there is a push on from RTE to get the HD channel up and running in time for Christmas. It's 3 weeks tomorrow to Christmas Day, so surely there's time.

Have no doubt that it will appear on the EPG before Christmas - TV3HD was actually testing for less then 3 weeks AFAIK, certainly video and audio lasted far less then that.

I presume sky are still paying for the the satellite uplink of the RTÉ and the rest of the Irish channels to 28.2E so they can push this testing through if they so choose.

givecredit · 04-12-2015 01:03PM

RTE 1 HD and RTE1+1 testing on satellite:
RTE 1 HD

10.936 V SR 23000 FEC 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK

2816

RTE 1+1

12.266 H Sr 27500 Fec 5/6 Dvb-s Qpsk

2808

ftakeith · 04-12-2015 03:30PM

givecredit wrote: »

RTE 1 HD and RTE1+1 testing on satellite:
RTE 1 HD

10.936 V SR 23000 FEC 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK

2816

RTE 1+1

12.266 H Sr 27500 Fec 5/6 Dvb-s Qpsk

2808

in my view 15th December 2015 is when these will reappear on the sky EPG and rte catch up also

irishfeen · 04-12-2015 06:29PM

Both 2808 (RTÉ One+1) & 2816 (RTÉ One HD) now clearing with audio and video with Irish sky card... they certainly don't seem to be hanging around before Christmas.

murpho999 · 04-12-2015 07:12PM

It says RTE One+1 starts at 7pm.

irishfeen · 04-12-2015 07:14PM

murpho999 wrote: »

It says RTE One+1 starts at 7pm.

Same as Saorview, I don't think they are allowed to broadcast outside these times.

murpho999 · 04-12-2015 07:18PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Same as Saorview, I don't think they are allowed to broadcast outside these times.

OK, that is strange. I just get a blue screen on the other one.

RTE One HD and RTE One+1 launch on Sky

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