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Irish Government violating the human rights of women

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  • #152
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    The Golden Miller wrote:
    Why? Because it's morally wrong?


    No, because of very basic biology and hormones...


  • #153
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    RobertKK wrote: »
    How do pro-choice people feel about Clare Daly being the face of repeal the 8th and wanting abortion on demand?

    Personally I think she is great for the pro-life campaign.

    Rather her on our side than Ronan Mullen on yours


  • #154
    The Golden Miller
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    No, because of very basic biology and hormones...

    Yes, the natural pre-programmed biology to distinguish between what is right and wrong. The conscience kicking in basically


  • #155
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    The Golden Miller wrote:
    Yes, the natural right or wrong indicator. The conscience kicking in basically


    Erm, no. I would strongly recommend educating yourself on the matter before bothering to try and justify your argument.


  • #156
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    And Senator, "motor tax-extension paying-fare evading, Healy Eams #sexualoriantation #wiffycode


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  • #157
    The Golden Miller
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    Erm, no. I would strongly recommend educating yourself on the matter before bothering to try and justify your argument.

    Great reply. Belittle someone's argument because you don't like the reality


  • #158
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Yes, the natural pre-programmed biology to distinguish between what is right and wrong. The conscience kicking in basically

    You actually believe this???


  • #159
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    The Golden Miller wrote:
    Great reply. Belittle someone's argument because you don't like the reality


    No, belittle someone's argument because unlike them, you've studied the hormonal and behavioural processes during pregnancy and can know exactly what the reality is... hence can tell that what they think is reality is just a bunch of horse manure.


  • #160
    The Golden Miller
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    Gaygooner wrote: »
    You actually believe this???

    Well please do expand on the error of my ways


  • #161
    RayM
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    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Anyway, there are a lot of bitter yokes on the pro-life side so I don't see Clare doing much damage.

    I can't think of anyone on the anti-choice side who doesn't come across really, really badly. Basically the same bunch of creepy curtain-twitchers who pretended to care about children when opposing marriage equality. In the event of a referendum to repeal the 8th, the worst thing that could happen to the anti-choice side would be 'balanced' media coverage.


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  • #162
    Gaygooner
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    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Yes, the natural pre-programmed biology to distinguish between what is right and wrong. The conscience kicking in basically

    So is they gay sex wrong, even though the prostrate is located above the anus, bringing great pressure, via hormone release when penetrated???


  • #163
    The Golden Miller
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    No, belittle someone's argument because unlike them, you've studied the hormonal and behavioural processes during pregnancy and can know exactly what the reality is... hence can tell that what they think is reality is just a bunch of horse manure.

    Ye so the vast majority of women who get an abortion come away feeling **** for the next year and constantly doubting their decision because it's all hormones? Pull the other one. Not even you believe that. People tend to belittle others arguments because they don't like when the reality is put bluntly in front of them


  • #164
    Gaygooner
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    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Ye so the vast majority of women who get an abortion come away feeling **** for the next year and constantly doubting their decision because it's all hormones? Pull the other one. Not even you believe that. People tend to belittle others arguments because they don't like when the reality is put bluntly in front of them

    Who said the vast majority do? I reckon the hate spewing from the anti abortion campaigners has a far more negative effect than the medical procedure


  • #165
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    The Golden Miller wrote:
    Ye so the vast majority of women who get an abortion come away feeling **** for the next year and constantly doubting their decision because it's all hormones? Pull the other one. Not even you believe that. People tend to belittle others arguments because they don't like when the reality is put bluntly in front of them

    Thankfully, I don't have to believe it when I know it for an absolute fact. It really is very very basic stuff here, and widely accepted by the scientific and medical community. Do you know what hormones are?


  • #166
    The Golden Miller
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    Gaygooner wrote: »
    So is they gay sex wrong, even though the prostrate is located above the anus, bringing great pressure, via hormone release when penetrated???
    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Who said the vast majority do? I reckon the hate spewing from the anti abortion campaigners has a far more negative effect than the medical procedure

    Your mate brought up the biology bit. I was arguing a point on his own logic.

    The vast majority don't then? Ye that's right. They are all out partying the next day. Never give it a second thought. Sure they done nothing wrong after all, right?


  • #167
    The Golden Miller
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    Thankfully, I don't have to believe it when I know it for an absolute fact. It really is very very basic stuff here, and widely accepted by the scientific and medical community. Do you know what hormones are?

    Yes, women don't have a mind of their own, months and years after the abortion. All hormones. Should women even be allowed a vote since they don't think and just work off hormones?


  • #168
    Gaygooner
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    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Your mate brought up the biology bit. I was arguing a point on his own logic.

    The vast majority don't then? Ye that's right. They are all out partying the next day. Never give it a second thought

    Not many people can party after a medical procedure tbf. I wasn't in the mood for it after getting my appendix out, or was that evelutionary guilt???


  • #169
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Your mate brought up the biology bit. I was arguing a point on his own logic.

    The vast majority don't then? Ye that's right. They are all out partying the next day. Never give it a second thought

    She's not my mate, buddy


  • #170
    Ave Sodalis
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    The Golden Miller wrote:
    Yes, women don't have a mind of their own, months and years after the abortion. All hormones. Should women even be allowed a vote since they don't think and just work off hormones?


    What are you even blathering on about? Do you know what hormones are?


  • #171
    Ave Sodalis
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    Gaygooner wrote:
    He's not my mate, buddy

    I'm a she :(


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  • #172
    osarusan
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    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Yes, women don't have a mind of their own, months and years after the abortion. All hormones. Should women even be allowed a vote since they don't think and just work off hormones?
    Are you drunk or something?


  • #173
    Gaygooner
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    I'm a she :(

    She's not my mate, buddy


  • #174
    The Golden Miller
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    What are you even blathering on about? Do you know what hormones are?

    Yes. It seems your trying to put everything down to hormones, that the conscience or guilt isn't a factor at all. Do you even know anyone who got an abortion?


  • #175
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Yes. It seems your trying to put everything down to hormones, that the conscience or guilt isn't a factor at all. Do you even know anyone who got an abortion?

    Do you?

    I do, very much saw it as an elective medical procedure.


  • #176
    Gaygooner
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    Guilt about the what???


  • #177
    Ave Sodalis
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    The Golden Miller wrote:
    Yes. It seems your trying to put everything down to hormones, that the conscience or guilt isn't a factor at all. Do you even know anyone who got an abortion?

    You keep saying yes, yet you have demonstrated on your posts that you have no clue what you're talking about...


  • #178
    The Golden Miller
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    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Do you?

    I do, very much saw it as an elective medical procedure.

    So how were the women after the abortion?


  • #179
    Gaygooner
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    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    So how were the women after the abortion?

    Fine. She had a problem, addressed it.

    How were the women you knew?


  • #180
    The Golden Miller
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    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Fine. She had a problem, addressed it.

    How were the women you knew?

    Fine? How so? She never gave it a second thought?

    Well one of my mates became depressed, and an immediate family member has been constantly wrapped in guilt. As for me and my then girlfriend, when it came to us, we were all "pro-choice" and had the money and were ready to go to the UK, but luckily enough we both came around and saw the light. You know, the conscience kicked in. Biology doing it's job. Now we have a beautiful daughter. A little baby girl who nearly had her chance at life robbed from her even though she was the only party involved who had no hand in creating the situation, yet was the only one who faced being ended.

    Too many college clowns on social media these days spouting out the same cliches to look liberal and progressive in front of their mates despite never being faced with the situation, and when it comes down to it most change their stance dramatically when their conscience kicks in. It's because it's morally wrong


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  • #181
    bodice ripper
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    I'd love to see some evidence of this biological basis for conscience...


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