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The 2015 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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  • #722
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    So Novak Djokovic completely sweeps the 2015 tennis season... and I couldn't really care less :o Praise the gods that Wawrinka managed to win Roland-Garros, literally one of the only highlights of the year for me.


  • #723
    Sexy Panda
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 ✭Sexy Panda


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    So Novak Djokovic completely sweeps the 2015 tennis season... and I couldn't really care less :o Praise the gods that Wawrinka managed so win Roland-Garros, literally one of the only highlights of the year for me.

    It doesn't bode well, there aren't any young players coming through that look like they can challenge get him in the near future.


  • #724
    whiterebel
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    Sexy Panda wrote: »
    It doesn't bode well, there aren't any young players coming through that look like they can challenge get him in the near future.

    Its amazing that a 34 year old Federer is still the one that seems to be closest to him. I can't take to ND, but his returning and coverage of the court are amazing.


  • #725
    yerwanthere123
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    So difficult to get behind Djokovic when he plays such a mundane brand of tennis. Imagine if someone like Wawrinka was dominating the way Djokovic is now, would be incredible.


  • #726
    cowboyBuilder
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    Sexy Panda wrote: »
    It doesn't bode well, there aren't any young players coming through that look like they can challenge get him in the near future.

    Tennis will see a smash and grab few years for GS winners (when Nole quietens a bit), but yeah, it's true, I know some junior coaches here and Nadal is the last top Spanish player for a generation at least, there is no one coming through .... apparently there is a lot of French talent tho ..


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  • #727
    CassieManson
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    Sexy Panda wrote: »
    It doesn't bode well, there aren't any young players coming through that look like they can challenge get him in the near future.

    I found this list in L'Equipe back in 2013 - predicting the top 10 for 2018, I kept it out of curiosity. Some of the young challengers from 2013 have been disappointing so far.

    This was the list:
    1. Dimitrov
    2. Paire
    3. Murray
    4. Raonic
    5. Djokovic
    6. Nishikori
    7. Tomic
    8. Gulbis
    9. Janowicz
    10. Sock


  • #728
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    CassieManson wrote: »
    I found this list in L'Equipe back in 2013 - predicting the top 10 for 2018, I kept it out of curiosity. Some of the young challengers from 2013 have been disappointing so far.

    This was the list:
    1. Dimitrov
    2. Paire
    3. Murray
    4. Raonic
    5. Djokovic
    6. Nishikori
    7. Tomic
    8. Gulbis
    9. Janowicz
    10. Sock

    I was looking for this list a while ago. I remember laughing at it at the time. There's more chance of the top 10 being the same as it is now than this list being accurate.


  • #729
    walshb
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    Sexy Panda wrote: »
    No one said Federer's opponents were better than Djokovic by the way.

    I realises this. I was using it to out across the point that Federer in 2006 wasn't meeting the quality that Nole brings. Nole today and recently gives the 2006 Federer hell.


  • #730
    smurfs5
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    Janowicz's Wimbledon semi-final seems to have been a one-off. Gulbis was hyped for a while and always seemed to be a dangerous opponent in 1st round GS matches but he hasn't made the step-up to the next level. Tomic- well, we all know what the problems there are. Dimitrov is a Top 10 player- he just hasn't gotten himself together mentally to be consistently challenging the Top 5 at Grand Slams.

    I wouldn't say that there are no young players coming through at all. The ATP seeme excited about the batch of youngsters like Coric, Zverev, Kokkinakis, Kyrgios so we'll see if they can meet the expectation. Chris Kermode was on Sky on Friday saying that he wants to set up an Under 21 version of the World Tour Finals either next year or by 2017 to bridge the generation gap and to give that group of young hopefuls a push towards the pinnacle of the game. Hopefully we'll see them make their mark soon.


  • #731
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    smurfs5 wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that there are no young players coming through at all. The ATP seeme excited about the batch of youngsters like Coric, Zverev, Kokkinakis, Kyrgios so we'll see if they can meet the expectation. Chris Kermode was on Sky on Friday saying that he wants to set up an Under 21 version of the World Tour Finals either next year or by 2017 to bridge the generation gap and to give that group of young hopefuls a push towards the pinnacle of the game. Hopefully we'll see them make their mark soon.

    The WTA have something like that already. Kermode nicking ideas :D


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  • #732
    cowboyBuilder
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    No mention on RTE (Tv + Radio) about the WTF .... pathetic really ...


  • #733
    mickmackey1
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    walshb wrote: »
    I realises this. I was using it to out across the point that Federer in 2006 wasn't meeting the quality that Nole brings. Nole today and recently gives the 2006 Federer hell.

    Nonsense. Federer 2015 beat Djokovic 3 times!! despite being 8/9 years past his peak. Djokovic didn't even have to reach his 2011 standard to win all he won this year. Weird times for tennis, contrast with golf where champions are getting younger.


  • #734
    lostcat
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    mickmackey1 wrote: »
    Nonsense. Federer 2015 beat Djokovic 3 times!! despite being 8/9 years past his peak. Djokovic didn't even have to reach his 2011 standard to win all he won this year. Weird times for tennis, contrast with golf where champions are getting younger.

    I disagree about the level Djokovic is currently playing at, he is a much better, more rounded player than he was in 2011.
    He managed to redline his way through the first two thirds of 2011.

    He was in cruise control for most of this year, due to a better first serve, much much better second serve, more intelligent tactics and being far and away the most mentally strong player on tour.

    He has become more attacking (when it suits him) and won a lot of fast matches this year compared to 2011 (I haven't checked the figures, but it sure feels that way).

    Someone in an earlier post said his game is mundane. While it may be monotonous watching him 'easily' winning most of his matches, I certainly couldn't call his blend of technical and mental excellence mundane....


  • #735
    lostcat
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    In other news, in a blatant attempt to curry favour with fans, Djokovic has engaged in his own SABR campaign.......





    (Sorry About Beating Rodger)


  • #736
    Halloween Jack
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    lostcat wrote: »
    In other news, in a blatant attempt to curry favour with fans, Djokovic has engaged in his own SABR campaign.......





    (Sorry About Beating Rodger)

    See! Just embrace the dark side Novak.....


  • #737
    cowboyBuilder
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    I see Dunblane won the Davis Cup :D !!


  • #738
    Halloween Jack
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    Rarely watch doubles, not sure why 'cos that match was very entertaining;)


  • #739
    whiterebel
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    Rarely watch doubles, not sure why 'cos that match was very entertaining;)

    Brilliant, until Darcis fell apart. Some difference between Andy Murray's serve and the others.


  • #740
    Halloween Jack
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    this set has showcased the worst of andy murray, passive in rallies and moaning at himself/his bench a lot


  • #741
    Halloween Jack
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    this set has showcased the worst of andy murray, passive in rallies and moaning at himself/his bench a lot

    Perhaps I was underestimating how much it meant to him, another achievement boxed off, an Australian open and a week at number one and I think that'd be quite the career;)


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  • #742
    vienne86
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    David Cameron seemed more interested in the Davis Cup win than in the EU Leaders' summit in Brussels today!


  • #743
    cowboyBuilder
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    Perhaps I was underestimating how much it meant to him, another achievement boxed off, an Australian open and a week at number one and I think that'd be quite the career;)

    eh ?

    Anyway, good for Murray, he´s won 2 grand slams an Olympic gold and a Davis Cup.

    Decent career.

    Cos he aint winning any more slams...


  • #744
    lostcat
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    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    eh ?

    Anyway, good for Murray, he´s won 2 grand slams an Olympic gold and a Davis Cup.

    Decent career.

    Cos he aint winning any more slams...

    I can see him winning a couple, all he needs is to stay at no. 2 for the year, and for Djokovic to have an off day in a final (bound to happen at some stage.....surely....?).
    If Federer hangs around at no. 3 for a year, which he might, Murray has a 50/50 chance of avoiding him in a slam.

    Murray is very consistent in reaching the business end of most tournaments, if he mentally unshackled a bit and became a small bit less passive I can certainly see him winning a couple


  • #745
    cowboyBuilder
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    ah yeah, I'm just trolling, he will win a couple more for sure ... but will be tough .

    I'm actually happy for the guy, he played amazing yesterday, he was bossing the match on clay
    the way Nadal of '08 would ...


  • #746
    CassieManson
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    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    ah yeah, I'm just trolling, he will win a couple more for sure ... but will be tough .

    I'm actually happy for the guy, he played amazing yesterday, he was bossing the match on clay
    the way Nadal of '08 would ...

    Yes, I really enjoyed the match yesterday, it was competitive with some great shots, especially match point. The doubles was great also!

    Fair play to Andy, that was a big effort throughout the year.


  • #747
    cowboyBuilder
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    And winning points that Gofin dominated - with such good shots too, really impressive and demoralising for Goffin.


  • #748
    cowboyBuilder
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    listening to Sean O Rourke show now .... lets see if they mention Britains FIRST DAVIS CUP since 1936 .... I wouldn't expect so ..


  • #749
    RosyLily
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    Great Britain vs Belgium was probably the most unlikely DC final but it was entertaining! Really enjoyed the doubles!! Will be interesting to see what players choose to play next year, especially with it being an Olympic year.


  • #750
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Heads up! Wimbledon ballot applications are open from today!

    https://www.aeltc.com/BallotApp/os/BallotForm


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  • #751
    RosyLily
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    I'm in the ballot. It's after coming around quick!:eek:


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