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Why are taps in bars in England so slow to pour compared to here?

  • 27-11-2015 10:03PM
    #1
    guylikeme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭


    What happened? Do they not trust the bar staff to toltvthe glass and not spill it?


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  • #2
    tomwaterford
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    Stronger gravity in ireland


  • #3
    Pinch Flat
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    They drink slower than us


  • #4
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    The beer liquid is heavier in england, so the pumps can't lift it up the pipes as quick


  • #5
    PTH2009
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    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    They drink slower than us
    too stingy ???


  • #6
    moc moc a moc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    guylikeme wrote: »
    What happened? Do they not trust the bar staff to toltvthe glass and not spill it?

    Well, call me a cynic, but I certainly do not trust the bar staff to toltvthe glass. :confused:


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  • #7
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,456 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They're electric in Ireland I think, ie there's some sort of motor which ensures a smooth flow whereas a lot of pubs here operate the more traditional "pump" method. The bar staff are pumping the drink into your glass.

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  • #8
    Fr_Dougal
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    Ah sure that's Protestants for you.


  • #9
    Jim Bob Scratcher
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    The reason the taps run faster here is because we're a nation of alcoholics who need our hooch asap.


  • #10
    Stojkovic
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Ah sure that's Protestants for you.
    More Catholics in Britain than in Ireland !!!!


  • #11
    WesternZulu
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    Stojkovic wrote: »
    More Catholics in Britain than in Ireland !!!!

    More protestants in Britain than in Ireland as well!


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  • #12
    questionmark?
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    They're electric in Ireland I think, ie there's some sort of motor which ensures a smooth flow whereas a lot of pubs here operate the more traditional "pump" method. The bar staff are pumping the drink into your glass.

    Ya for real Ale that is hand pumped not for your average draught lager.


    English bar staff tend to be slower, two orders at once is not a concept they understand!!


  • #13
    questionmark?
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    WesternZulu wrote: »
    More protestants in Britain than in Ireland as well!

    More Muslims as well! #maybecontroversial


  • #14
    SEPT 23 1989
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    It's the wrist action


  • #15
    dd972
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    Can't say I've noticed, have had some dreadful pints of Guinness in English pubs though especially when they made it over there.


  • #16
    Hotblack Desiato
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    They're electric in Ireland I think, ie there's some sort of motor which ensures a smooth flow whereas a lot of pubs here operate the more traditional "pump" method. The bar staff are pumping the drink into your glass.

    In both countries, the mass market fizzy swill will use CO2 gas pressure to reach the tap (nitrogen for draught Guinness)

    The rhythmic pumping action (heh :p ) you might see is ale being hand pumped from a cask, this tradition almost died out in England in the 70s and was all but unknown here until a few years ago. Ironically, Wetherspoons is one of the best places here to get cask.

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  • #17
    Fr_Dougal
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    Stojkovic wrote: »
    More Catholics in Britain than in Ireland !!!!

    Typical Brits, stealing our Catholics.


  • #18
    threeball
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    They're electric in Ireland I think, ie there's some sort of motor which ensures a smooth flow whereas a lot of pubs here operate the more traditional "pump" method. The bar staff are pumping the drink into your glass.

    No they aren't electric. Gas is injected in the barrel in the coldroom which then displaces the beer, lager, stout etc and forces up a line to the tap when pulled. It simultaneously carbonises the drink to add the fizz or bubbles you get with most drinks. As mentioned Guinness uses nitrogen as it doesn't create a fizz. I believe English taps are more like the old well pumps using a suction/syphon process to extract the drink from the keg.


  • #19
    Undercover Elephant
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    questionmark? wrote: »

    English bar staff tend to be slower, two orders at once is not a concept they understand!!
    True. OTOH it's possible to order a sandwich in England without listing the component parts one by one.


  • #20
    rolliepoley
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    They pour tar over there and piss over here.


  • #21
    moc moc a moc
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    dd972 wrote: »
    have had some dreadful pints of Guinness in English pubs

    What kind of maniac drinks Guinness in an English pub?


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  • #22
    FortySeven
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    Worked years behind both countries bars. Can't say I ever noticed a difference. All run on the same gas displacement system, same pipes, same bleed valves etc. Real ales are pumped by pulling the tap down which forces a plunger to displace the ale but they are as fast if you are pulling hard enough.

    There is an Irish obsession that the barrells be as close to the taps as possible as it 'makes the beer better' but this is only the case if the bar owner is a mink and doesn't clean the lines. It would not make any difference to the flow rate. Taps can be adjusted by turning the outlet to speed up or slow down. An inexperienced barman will turn them down due to it being easier to maintain a reasonable head but a pro on a wedding bar for instance will have them maxed out, it's a bit of a skill to get it right.


  • #23
    colossus-x
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    It's because there aren't hordes of people behind you scrambling to get a drink.


  • #24
    Cantona's Collars
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    questionmark? wrote: »

    English bar staff tend to be slower, two orders at once is not a concept they understand!!

    +1

    It's an ordeal trying to order a round of drinks there.You'd need to write down a list and give it to them.


  • #25
    FortySeven
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    zerks wrote: »
    +1

    It's an ordeal trying to order a round of drinks there.You'd need to write down a list and give it to them.

    Where are you guys drinking, there are loads of octopus like barmen everywhere. :rolleyes:


  • #26
    Ruu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Too much talking from the barkeep, if the documentaries such as Coronation Street and Eastenders are to go by. I say, barkeep. I say, BARKEEP!


  • #27
    Lucy8080
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    This is a well known phenomenon, o.p.

    It's called alcoholism.

    You started your drinking life in Ireland (probably shortly after your first communion, assuming you where a late starter).

    By the time you left your native land to drink on foreign shores , you realised it was easier to blame them across the water than notice the slight unease and edginess when waiting a minute or two for your round.

    The answer?

    Come home, you will never blame an Irish barman ,and can console yourself with the idea that we are just on Irish time for service.

    Never, and I say this as an Irish passport holder, never blame the drink.

    A true patriot ,like yourself, has a duty to blame them across the water.

    I'm proud of you.


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