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Excellent speech by Maajid Nawaz.

Christy42 wrote: »

If you want information on how many Muslims support ISIS then you have to redo the poll from scratch properly.

And you'll have to redo the experiment over and over again, until you can get them to say that they don't, no matter how many times it may take.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Probably has been discussed here a bit though in another sense its a separate issue but what is the general opinion of Irish people as regards accepting refugees into Ireland in the coming weeks, would people be for or against them coming in?

There will probably be extra screening measures introduced alright for the new refugees expected, our sea ports in Ireland and UK are going to become like airports, extra security and armed sea marshalls, trains are also getting special attention.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/12009941/Channel-ferries-at-risk-from-jihadi-terror-attack.html

dissed doc wrote: »

What sort of racist crap are you are spouting?

It depends entirely on the type of migrant. They are not all the same, they asre different religions, cultures, genders, etc., .. Stop being a bigot. People will easily accept some migrants that are compatible with the prevailing norms of their own communities, and will not easily accept forced migration of those not compatible.

Stop being so ****ing arrogant, as to decide that all migrants are some homogenous group.

Talk about an over the top reaction.

nullzero wrote: »

Doesn't seem to have filtered through to the rolling news channels yet.

I've read that this is happening at a gas station. Probably a robbery gone wrong.

30- 45 mins away from where my friends live so hoping it is just a robbery and not something more sinister.

Probably not the smartest time to do an armed robbery. Is the state of emergency over?

stunmer wrote: »

Excellent speech by Maajid Nawaz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn7uxsnEjrU

Nodin liked this. He obviously didn't watch it, saw the Muslim name of the speaker and thought he must be on the same wavelength as himself! Funny stuff.

Uncle Ben wrote: »

Time to pull those EU naval vessels back from the Libyan coast and stop the taxi service.

Maybe NATO should step into and cover the cost. After all, it was those fúcktards that destabilised the region and created the taxi service.

custard gannet wrote: »

Before you align yourself with the rape apologist, lol teh irish pplz is homeless l0lz 0H N0EZ racist little welfare dependent pervert nonce who stalks these boards from dusk til dawn, ask yourself this.

But hey, I'm naming no names.

Wow. Courageous.

custard gannet wrote: »

Before you align yourself with the rape apologist, lol teh irish pplz is homeless l0lz 0H N0EZ racist little welfare dependent pervert nonce who stalks these boards from dusk til dawn, ask yourself this.

But hey, I'm naming no names. Who you think I'm talking about could be anyone who has contributed to this topic.

I fail to see the relevance of your frankly bizarre and childish insults against other unnamed posters on boards. I take it some people disagreed with you, and your not naming names is an attempt to circumvent the rules.

custard gannet wrote: »

If I say young people going to fight in Syria, do you think of misguided jihadists or old army men and European born Kurds. Because the contrast in numbers is fairly stark.

The people who did the poll have disown the Suns conclusions:

The Sun's Pollsters Survation Disown Controversial 'Muslims Sympathetic To Jihadis' Front Page


So we have the actual text that doesn't say what the Sun or you are saying. Then we have the people who conducting the poll disowning the Sun's claims as well.

The normal pollsters used by the Sun declined for the following reason:

The Sun's normal pollsters, YouGov, reportedly declined to do the latest poll.

A YouGov spokesman told HuffPost UK: "We don’t comment on specific commercial discussions.

"Broadly speaking, in our experience, to survey Britain’s Muslim population, particularly at a period of such heightened sensitivities, requires the kind of time, care, and therefore cost, that is beyond a newspaper’s budget."

Also, the following from another polling company:

Ipsos Mori, another polling company, expressed reservations about the poll.

Its chief executive, Ben Page, tweeted that Muslims were too small a proportion of the British population and polling them online could be "fraught with bias" and polling them by phone, as Survation did in this case, could be "equally hard".

Lot of issues with poll, from the question, the methodology, the time given, and you know the fact that the people who did the poll disown the Sun's headline.

Now, you can choose to refuse to address all the above, and just insist yet again, that they really meant Jihadi's or ISIS, despite never using either of those words, which would have made it very clear what they were talking about.