Galway GAA discussion thread

aidan24326 · 17-11-2015 01:10PM

In terms of the players that moved to oust AC I'd love to hear their opinions on who they'd like to replace him? And will they respect the next manager? Do they want to just manage the team themselves? (maybe we should let them do that for a year, and see how they get on).

They have not come out of this well, and this coming from a group of players who have zero All-Ireland Senior medals between the sorry lot of them. A figure that shall remain the case if they keep up with this sort of sh1t. It's hard to know who would even want the job at this stage. It will require a very strong character that's for sure. I wonder would Cody fancy a new job?

Notabluffer · 17-11-2015 01:59PM

Hard not to have some sympathy for Cunningham and he comes across as a decent man.
Who in his right mind would take over that thankless job now?
Somehow I think these Galway players have lost a lot of respect from the general GAA body nationwide whether
that's right or wrong we don't know. Surely they have good grounds for such drastic action?
Same goes for Mayo footballers. Is there something in the water in the west?
The GAA world is watching with mouths open for news of new managers in both counties.

Tommy Kelly · 17-11-2015 03:03PM

It wasn't that long ago they wouldn't pass the ball to one another in training or travel together on a bus to matches now they've gotten rid of their manager. The carry on in Galway hurling from the top down would boil a lads blood. Every scuthering year there is some sort of prick acting going on.

A 'Yes' man will be brought in now and we'll have 30 managers next year. My advice would be to any lad that was going to spend more of his money going around the place following them would be to 'hold on to your few quid'

Robson99 · 17-11-2015 03:23PM

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

It wasn't that long ago they wouldn't pass the ball to one another in training or travel together on a bus to matches now they've gotten rid of their manager. The carry on in Galway hurling from the top down would boil a lads blood. Every scuthering year there is some sort of prick acting going on.

Personally I wouldn't blame the players at all. Its the gob****es on the county board who have a lot to answer for. Same gob****es who take centre stage when we win something Have gone into hiding the last couple of days. No statement from them, none available for local radio interview this morning. Typical county board bury the heads in the sand. But push everyone of the stage when the cameras are around when we win something

cosatron · 17-11-2015 04:02PM

Robson99 wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't blame the players at all. Its the gob****es on the county board who have a lot to answer for. Same gob****es who take centre stage when we win something Have gone into hiding the last couple of days. No statement from them, none available for local radio interview this morning. Typical county board bury the heads in the sand. But push everyone of the stage when the cameras are around when we win something

I have to agree with robson, all this could of been avoided if the county board showed a small bit of know how. After the Waterford game, there was allot of grumblings about the players being unhappy with Cunningham, a couple of players approached a board member about removing AC but were told not happening. After the All Ireland again we had more issues regarding players unrest with AC and the sit up and low and behold the county board turned around and appointed AC without consulting the players and without proper ratification through the clubs, this left the players no option but to publicly state that AC had no support and still the county board tried to bull through AC as manager via getting a mediator and threatening the players to sign there names axing AC. The county board are a joke and some of the stuff there up to is laughable. Rumour also has it that AC is owed the guts of 20k if so that's true its a joke and totally unfair on AC.

Laurel_Patente · 17-11-2015 05:09PM

This is all fair enough; if Galway county board are the same as 95% of county boards throughout the country, they are a group of cynical yes men. But what are the issues that players have a problem with?

Is it simply a generational thing where some are unhappy with younger players being promoted and others being phased out? Is training an issue, are club politics at play? It's like everyone is hinting at some underlying issue at play that no one wants to discuss. and the longer that news vacuum develops, with only Cunningham's side of the story out there, the worse it looks on behalf of the players

cosatron · 17-11-2015 05:46PM

from the outside looking in and hearing a good few rumours, is that the players just don't rate Cunningham, he has favourites, training would be going well with Eugene and it would be buzzing and next AC takes over and it goes to sh*t, clashes allot with certain individuals and doesn't say boo to others, and the players do be bewildered with some of his decisions on the line. Joseph cooney got an awful belt on Wednesday before the tipp game and wasn't able to train the rest of the week and next thing AC throws him on in a tight game and then takes him off, sure that can't be good for the lads confidence

Hulk Hands · 17-11-2015 07:53PM

Cunninghams statement was probably written in crayon, considering its content. Laughably bitter attempt to skew public opinion on him.

From some of the stuff we've probably all heard coming out of the camp, I actually think the players deserve credit for being so patient. They could've kicked up at the end of last year but didn't want to be seen as whingers after poor performances that year. They had a no confidence vote in him after the league, but decided to be adults about it and not rock the boat a few weeks before championship, so they stuck it out. The time had simply come for this. County board should never have ratified him last year, never mind this year.

The argument that you can't sack or get rid of him after making a final is laughable. Galway won 3 games, and lost two, and had a disaster of a league.Just because very very talented hurlers happened to play well and beat Cork and Tipp in one off games, does not mean the camp was in good shape. In fact, the fact that they nearly lost to Tipp due to poor tactics in the backline is more of a black mark against AC than a positive

Hulk Hands · 17-11-2015 08:01PM

Oh, and prior to being ratified, the players had a secret ballot which comprehensively returned the no confidence vote. They then have the decency to keep this quiet and go to AC privately to let him know. The following night, AC turns up at the board meeting to ratify him, doesn't mention what the players had done, and flat out lies when asked the question "are the players behind you". Like that is actually incredible. Good riddance

Robson99 · 17-11-2015 08:28PM

Anyone know who the so called mediator was???

MfMan · 17-11-2015 09:42PM

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

It wasn't that long ago they wouldn't pass the ball to one another in training or travel together on a bus to matches now they've gotten rid of their manager. The carry on in Galway hurling from the top down would boil a lads blood. Every scuthering year there is some sort of prick acting going on.

A 'Yes' man will be brought in now and we'll have 30 managers next year. My advice would be to any lad that was going to spend more of his money going around the place following them would be to 'hold on to your few quid'

No. Urban myth. Mentor confirmed to me it never happened.

mjp · 17-11-2015 09:47PM

Mulhollands just posted on twitter saying they put up betting this evening with mattie Kenny and Michael donoghue at top of the betting but had to take down market as took 37 bets and all were on donoghue so galway public seem to think he's a shoe in for the role.

MfMan · 17-11-2015 09:47PM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Cunninghams statement was probably written in crayon, considering its content. Laughably bitter attempt to skew public opinion on him.

From some of the stuff we've probably all heard coming out of the camp, I actually think the players deserve credit for being so patient. They could've kicked up at the end of last year but didn't want to be seen as whingers after poor performances that year. They had a no confidence vote in him after the league, but decided to be adults about it and not rock the boat a few weeks before championship, so they stuck it out. The time had simply come for this. County board should never have ratified him last year, never mind this year.

The argument that you can't sack or get rid of him after making a final is laughable. Galway won 3 games, and lost two, and had a disaster of a league.Just because very very talented hurlers happened to play well and beat Cork and Tipp in one off games, does not mean the camp was in good shape. In fact, the fact that they nearly lost to Tipp due to poor tactics in the backline is more of a black mark against AC than a positive

Agree with most of this. A lot of commentators seem to forget that the players lost faith after the league, not the AI. If the players went public with the nature of their grievances they'd probably be accused of being petty and spoilt. They have retained their dignity by remaining silent in my view. Mayo players seem to be getting off a lot lighter (and I also think they were correct) as they heaved after until one season.

donnem33 · 17-11-2015 10:43PM

gsmhsd10 wrote: »

Rumors going around that Moore and Collins are leaving. Half that team should be dropped and bring in fresh players that want it. Why is Canning still there? In my opinion he shouldn't be starting be lucky enough to be water boy. Other fellas around the county far better.

Name them so!!!

This was Cannings best year in a long time imo!!

LUHG · 17-11-2015 10:49PM

gsmhsd10 wrote: »

Rumors going around that Moore and Collins are leaving. Half that team should be dropped and bring in fresh players that want it. Why is Canning still there? In my opinion he shouldn't be starting be lucky enough to be water boy. Other fellas around the county far better.

as a hurling man you must be so clueless, why is Canning still there? maybe because hes one of if not the best players on Galways team.
I think the players are coming out of this bad. in my opinion they are the ones putting everything into the sport they have a right to decide who is coaching them

donnem33 · 17-11-2015 10:59PM

gsmhsd10 wrote: »

I did MOORE and COLLINS!!

Ya some people say it was but really when you think about it, was it? As far I can think I thought he played better in 2012 but as i say that we like different parts of each player.

I was referring to the part when you said there were several players better than canning!!

To be top scorer this year obviously he had to be doing something right!! Also his vision and ability to bring other players into the game was much improved this year!

Hulk Hands · 17-11-2015 11:56PM

gsmhsd10 wrote: »

Thought Donnelann was good but he was desperate during some matches. C. Mannion or Flynn were good aswell. Flynn i reckon is the one to watch for the future.

Top scorer i know but only something like 3-15 from play from what I remember hearing.

At the end of the we can talk all we want but its the players that need to play on the match, not the manger or us the supporters. The only way the players can justify standing against Cunnigham is to win the All-Ireland in 2016. Thats somethinng even1 knows.

Are you actually taking the piss? You don't think he's good enough to be playing, and you reference the fact that he scored 3-15 from play to back up your argument??

playtowin · 18-11-2015 02:54PM

Speaking from a hurling point of view, as a Corkman, the players will be the ultimate losers in this. Young players like Whelan have no business being asked to vote on whether he will play/not play for a manager next year. A young lad like him should be concentrating solely on on-field matters. It might take Galway a long time to get over this. The only positive being it was sorted relatively quickly.

In Cork, the strike went on for a long time and everyone was drained after it. The Irony of it all then being Donal Og Cusack criticising some of the Cork players now. And when he was involved with that team he had those young lads (lads similar to Whelan) holed up in the Rochestown Park Hotel till 2 and 3 in the morning at meetings when they should have been concentrating on their hurling.

I hope the same doesn't happen Galway, ie. Players at the end of their career stopping (maybe indirectly) the progress of the young lads coming through.

Lollipop95 · 18-11-2015 10:15PM

playtowin wrote: »

Speaking from a hurling point of view, as a Corkman, the players will be the ultimate losers in this. Young players like Whelan have no business being asked to vote on whether he will play/not play for a manager next year. A young lad like him should be concentrating solely on on-field matters. It might take Galway a long time to get over this. The only positive being it was sorted relatively quickly.

In Cork, the strike went on for a long time and everyone was drained after it. The Irony of it all then being Donal Og Cusack criticising some of the Cork players now. And when he was involved with that team he had those young lads (lads similar to Whelan) holed up in the Rochestown Park Hotel till 2 and 3 in the morning at meetings when they should have been concentrating on their hurling.

I hope the same doesn't happen Galway, ie. Players at the end of their career stopping (maybe indirectly) the progress of the young lads coming through.

Agreed, I imagine all the younger players would've voted in favour of AC, he gave them a chance after all

Tommy Kelly · 19-11-2015 06:34PM

MfMan wrote: »

No. Urban myth. Mentor confirmed to me it never happened.

And two players from my own club that were involved in the set up at the time told me that it did happen. The father of one of them a 3 time All-Ireland winner told me the same.

cosatron · 21-11-2015 09:05PM

FFS the letter the players released is very childish and uncalled for. This is going to set us back years. Rumour has it that some players didn't know about and some are livid with the mention of Eugenes name. It's on joe.ie

from_atozinc · 21-11-2015 09:41PM

cosatron wrote: »

FFS the letter the players released is very childish and uncalled for. This is going to set us back years. Rumour has it that some players didn't know about and some are livid with the mention of Eugenes name. It's on joe.ie

Jaysus. Just read it there. Some mess.

22-11-2015 01:52AM

Whoever advised them clearly wasn't on the right wave-length. That statement is downright awful. The whole thing is so depressing at this stage its hard to know where the new manager would start. The panel looked unified for long spells during the championship but this will dig up old wounds and cause problems undoubtedly. Its hard to see how anyone from Galway can walk into this situation and get everyone pulling in the one direction.

Anyway to try and divert things! Good win for Abbeyknockmoy today in the All-Ireland intermediate quarter-final. Robert Emmett's are past winners of this competition and the London sides have edged out the Galway sides a few times in recent years so good to see them progress. From what I can gather they will now face Creggan Kickhams from Antrim in the semi-final so a good chance to make it to Croke Park.

In terms of the final replay tomorrow. Hard to see how it will go. Would expect another close one. Happy to see either team winning it but Craughwell have waited an awful long time. In the first game both sides were a bit hesitant, defensive and reluctant to push on. Neither side really deserved the win the first day but Sarsfields impressed me a bit more. I don't know do I trust Craughwell to close it out but I'll give them a hesitant nod.

MfMan · 22-11-2015 02:54AM

cosatron wrote: »

FFS the letter the players released is very childish and uncalled for. This is going to set us back years. Rumour has it that some players didn't know about and some are livid with the mention of Eugenes name. It's on joe.ie

Letter was written to the CB, not strictly with the intention of being released, detailing their grievances. Players seem quite unified if contents are to be believed. Think Cloonan/Malone example being quoted to highlight lack of cohesion among the managerial team at the time, not necessarily having a go at these selectors.

They say you should buy when everyone else is selling; I predict we'll finally win Liam next year!

Diabhal Beag · 22-11-2015 01:06PM

Sarsfields had that bit more quality last time but conditions are near immaculate today in comparison.

from_atozinc · 22-11-2015 02:28PM

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Sarsfields had that bit more quality last time but conditions are near immaculate today in comparison.

The last day was a decent day. Sun and all. Or are you just on about the pitch

Diabhal Beag · 22-11-2015 04:51PM

from_atozinc wrote: »

The last day was a decent day. Sun and all. Or are you just on about the pitch

The Kenny pitch was like a warzone.

Sarsfields were deserving winners. Joe Cooney looked lethal all day and worked his socks off. Hynes ate Niall Healy in the second half. Morrisey looked good for a man on one foot. Craughwell never pulled away in the second half when the momentum was theirs. Exciting game.

from_atozinc · 22-11-2015 08:18PM

Whose managing the Galway team abroad in Boston ?

paidinmhaire · 22-11-2015 09:10PM

from_atozinc wrote: »

Whose managing the Galway team abroad in Boston ?

Billy Walsh it looks like, for the first half anyway

Baggy Trousers · 22-11-2015 09:21PM

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

It wasn't that long ago they wouldn't pass the ball to one another in training or travel together on a bus to matches now they've gotten rid of their manager. The carry on in Galway hurling from the top down would boil a lads blood. Every scuthering year there is some sort of prick acting going on.

Galway aren't called the Tribesmen for nothing. It's in our nature to fight each other.

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