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Zoolander 2 deemed “transphobic”

  • 22-11-2015 02:46AM
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    A petition has been started to boycott the comedy film Zoolander 2 on the basis that it is “transphobic”, comparing it to “blackface”. At the time of posting, the petition had over 7,300 signatories.

    In the trailer for the upcoming film, an androgynous character, played by Benedict Cumbatch (with long hair) is asked by Derek Zoolander (Ben Stiller) and Hansel (Owen Wilson) if he is “a male or female model”, with the follow up question, whether or not he has “a hotdog or a bun”.

    According the petition,
    Cumberbatch’s character is clearly portrayed as an over-the-top, cartoonish mockery of androgyne/trans/non-binary individuals. This is the modern equivalent of using blackface to represent a minority.

    If the producers and screenwriters of Zoolander wanted to provide social commentary on the presence of trans/androgyne individuals in the fashion industry, they could have approached models like Andreja Pejic to be in the film. By hiring a cis actor to play a non-binary individual in a clearly negative way, they film endorses harmful and dangerous perceptions of the queer community at large.
    What do people think?

    Are people like this being a bit over-sensitive? Should they wait until the film is released and available to watch in full before they pass judgement, rather than base it on the trailer? Or do they have a point?

    https://twitter.com/Care2/status/667083027235803136


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Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    People must have very little going on in their lives if this offends them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭The Sidewards Man


    What do you think op?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    Why is offence only being taken about such characters now? They've appeared in a number of films and television shows down through the years. "Phobic" in this case means there's an intention to be hateful - that's hardly the case here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    As a bi man all I can say is, ugh, people have way too much time on their hands!

    It's Zoolander! he's a model, idiot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    What do you think op?

    The journalist Glenn Greewald wrote, of the film Zero Dark Thirty, “the film is now garnering a pile of top awards and virtually uniform rave reviews. What makes this so remarkable is that, by most accounts, the film glorifies torture by claiming - falsely - that waterboarding and other forms of coercive interrogation tactics were crucial, even indispensable in finding bin Laden...

    A large Hollywood studio would never dare make a film about the episode which is America's greatest source of collective self-esteem and jingoistic pride without clinging tightly to patriotic orthodoxies...

    I don't believe that this film is being so well-received despite its glorification of American torture. It's more accurate to say it's so admired because of this.”

    It turned out Greenwald hadn't seen the film yet, which makes his comments on the film somewhat redundant.

    I say, wait until you see a film before passing judgement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Deep Six


    I wish people would get a thicker skin and even the slightest ****ing grip on reality. This ultra PC mindset is pathetic. You're either proud of what you are and able to see the humour in a situation (regardless of topic) or you are just parading a pseudo-identity with the backbone of a snail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Looks like some people are taken it too seriously. On the otherhand, this will probably just add more publicity to the movie, just like when there was a cyber threat made just before the movie The Interview was released. I don't think anybody really cared all that much about that film before the cyber threats were made.

    As for the OP. It sucks really. Comedy isn't the same as it used to be, with all this political correctness now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,985 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Dear god. What an utterly pointless thread. Talk about a non-issue.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Again, PC gone haywire. And sad bastards with little in their lives ....... getting a bit of attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Deep Six wrote: »
    I wish people would get a thicker skin and even the slightest ****ing grip on reality. This ultra PC mindset is pathetic. You're either proud of what you are and able to see the humour in a situation (regardless of topic) or you are just parading a pseudo-identity with the backbone of a snail.

    i think a lot of these types like to be seen as 'fighting for a cause' & getting some kind of 'win'


    seen the trailer, I'd boycott it because it looks shít.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Non-binary? That's a new one.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No seriously f*ck off with this. Can we at least agree to leave the transphobic stuff in 2015 please? Everyone just be what you want to be and don't bother yourself with what and who other people want to be if it doesn't concern you. Let's all just agree to hate ISIS, they're very bold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Bulbous Salutation


    Is it funny? Not enough funny stuff these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Lights On


    This thread is very PCphobic imo. You would want to cut it out lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    Lights On wrote: »
    You would want to cut it out lads.

    Not a genitalia-based pun, I hope...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭DareGod


    People must have very little going on in their lives if this offends them.

    Haven't you ever visited the internet before? People do have very little going on in their lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    More and more people are getting sick to death of these militant trans activists.

    They even unbelievably accused Jared Leto of transmisogyny because of the role he played in Dallas Buyer's Club.

    There's a new movie coming out called Stonewall and it has had a petition started to boycott it by a well known trans activist.

    Their attitude is starting to grate with even the gay community and has resulted in one man starting a campaign to 'Drop the T' from LGBT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Lights On wrote: »
    This thread is very PCphobic imo. You would want to cut it out lads.

    Your post is an example of troll-shaming, bro. Check your cishet privilege, sh!tlord.

    In all seriousness, if people doubt the utter lunacy of these SJW f*ckers they should take a gander at the collection of forums where most of these campaigns originate - Reddit's sh!tredditsays, srsdiscussion, circlebroke2 and socialjustice101 sections.

    My only hope for humanity is that those who post on these forums are in fact highly dedicated trolls who are deliberately winding people up, as opposed to people who actually support the repressive crap they propose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    I have to say, when i saw the trailer, this thought did come into my head. This is very topical at the moment where people are tripping over themselves to be seen as tolerant towards all genders natural, or fabricated.

    To make a joke about it could be in bad taste. This is not my personal opinion, it doesnt bother me, but i knew it would bother others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭sonny.knowles


    PC BS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Their attitude is starting to grate with even the gay community and has resulted in one man starting a campaign to 'Drop the T' from LGBT.

    I don't get why they're in with them to begin with. It's like the union in the Simpsons, "The International Brotherhood of Jazz Dancers, Pastry Chefs and Nuclear Technicians."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Skoop


    Yes, it's a mystery as to why they wouldn't hire some transgender model no one has ever heard of over Binklyboop Crumpetbatchler, one of the most famous actors in the world at the minute. Bet they're kicking themselves over that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,768 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Can you imagine the faux outrage and PC whinging if Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles was released today! The PC Brigade would have a meltdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Ah this is a load of pc crap, how could they get offended with two seconds of Cumberwhatsisname giggling when asked if he has a bun or a sausage??

    Its just a stupid comedy, they need to get over themselves.

    Zoolander went black face in the first one, didn't see anyone from the black community boycotting the film!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    I'm getting ****ing fed up of all this ****. These people will find an issue with everything and it's pathetic.

    They are taking this from a trailer and about 7 seconds of footage.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    More and more people are getting sick to death of these militant trans activists.
    I think more and more people are getting sick to death with militant activists full stop. There's a backlash. Not just among the twitterati, I see it in Real Life(™) too and among people who would be generally middle of the road left leaning shure whatever you're having yourself types. And this has the real danger of hurting actual real people within marginalised groups. Too many of these muppet "activists" are crying "Wolf!" and we know how that story ended.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,705 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    SJW outrage.

    So hot right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,268 ✭✭✭IsMiseMyself


    More and more people are getting sick to death of these militant trans activists.

    They even unbelievably accused Jared Leto of transmisogyny because of the role he played in Dallas Buyer's Club.

    There's a new movie coming out called Stonewall and it has had a petition started to boycott it by a well known trans activist.

    Their attitude is starting to grate with even the gay community and has resulted in one man starting a campaign to 'Drop the T' from LGBT.

    To be fair, Stonewall was supposed to tell the stone of Stonewall, an event that was largely spearheaded by black transwomen. Casting a straight wide dude to play a straight-acting gay fella as the lead (and largely ignoring the actual truth) is completely rewriting the history. Like if you're gonna tell a trans story properly, tell it fecking properly. It would have been a bit like casting Brad Pitt as Ghandi, calling him Willis and still declaring it to be a film about Ghandi.

    Cumberbatch, however, is clearly playing a ridiculous parody, so the two don't really compare.


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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your post is an example of troll-shaming, bro. Check your cishet privilege, sh!tlord.

    In all seriousness, if people doubt the utter lunacy of these SJW f*ckers they should take a gander at the collection of forums where most of these campaigns originate - Reddit's sh!tredditsays, srsdiscussion, circlebroke2 and socialjustice101 sections.

    My only hope for humanity is that those who post on these forums are in fact highly dedicated trolls who are deliberately winding people up, as opposed to people who actually support the repressive crap they propose.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction


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