Sourcing Sony PVM/BVM monitors?

CiDeRmAn · 14-09-2014 12:26AM

PVM seems to be working a treat now.
I can't really see myself playing on the larger screen again, the image is so dang good via rgb.

STG.Otaku · 14-09-2014 01:14AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Yup. knobs were twisted, it's usable but I'll have to have another look at it.

o1s1n · 17-09-2014 10:18PM

So I got my BNC to BNC cables today.

Pro; they work great.
It's the first time I've seen RGB on the 9 inch PVMs and holy god, they're incredible.

Con;9 inch PVMs only have BNC RGB video in!!

no RGB out. They have composite out but that's no use to me.

So I have a Megadrive displaying RGB on a 20 inch PVM, this goes to RGB in on a 9 inch PVM (Megadrive on two screen at this point), but the video chain stops there. I can't continue on to the another 9 inch PVM.

I've a feeling I'm going to need some device to plug one BNC video in to which has two BNC outputs.

o1s1n · 17-09-2014 10:55PM

Just realized a picture probably paints 1000 words in this case!

Looks better in motion but you get the idea.

(and yes andrew76, I see the Dreamcast is even more precarious than the last time :pac:)

Andrew76 · 17-09-2014 11:17PM

It's like a game of Jenga using consoles instead of bricks!

Myrddin · 18-09-2014 01:32PM

Just curious o1s1n, why do you actually want/need the image on multiple screens?

18-09-2014 01:40PM

Myrddin wrote: »

Just curious o1s1n, why do you actually want/need the image on multiple screens?

hes gotta justify them somehow!:)

o1s1n · 18-09-2014 01:42PM

To makes my games room feel like the studio set from Gamesmaster :pac:

Just a bit of fun really!

Now, imagine the awesomeness with the other one linked up :pac:

(by the way that noise is my leather couch, not me passing gas

)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZVKTCVF7E8

The Last Bandit · 18-09-2014 02:00PM

You should stick the composite out into the 1084 at least... and lay off the beans

Andrew76 · 18-09-2014 02:08PM

The video is private? Not sure I want to listen to you farting though! :pac:

o1s1n · 18-09-2014 02:13PM

Yeah that doesn't work unfortunately! I tried linking the third PVM into the video loop using the composite out on the second PVM.

However, the video channels on these monitors are completely separate from each other. So to get a composite picture out, you need to have a composite source.

As the Megadrive is outputting RGB over BNC lines then the whole chain is on the RGB channel.

I guess 9 inch PVMs are a field monitor and not exactly something a studio is going to use to output a high quality video source.

Andrew76 wrote: »

The video is private? Not sure I want to listen to you farting though! :pac:

I take it youtube object to tooting rear ends

Be warned, the video quality is atrocious. It would seem that videoing a CRT television in a badly lit room is not one of the Moto G's strong points.

o1s1n · 18-09-2014 03:02PM

I'm probably investing far too much time and cash into this, but feck it - I found a solution

Just bought an Extron DA6 RGBHV wideband video amplifier.

It accepts one BNC RGB input and outputs BNC RGB to 6 monitors! :eek:

£22 pounds with £12 delivery. Seemed like a bargain really.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181218311208?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Now to buy 4 more PVMs :pac:

19-09-2014 10:37AM

CathalDublin · 06-10-2014 03:24PM

http://www.jammaplus.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65898&title=sony-pvm-9-inch-monitors-arriving-in-2-weeks

iamtony · 16-11-2015 01:07PM

Following up from the comments on the Wii U forum about these crt's I finally got myself a Sony pvm-9042qm yesterday.

Now I need to know what will work with the model I have a what I need to get. I've attached a photo of the back of the unit which might help determine what I can use with it and what I need to get to make them work. Ciderman pointed me towards a cable and adapters I need to get but I'm a bit concerned I need to get something else, I seen mention of a Sync box or something elsewhere?
For starters I would like to get a snes and possibly a GameCube working on it which I'll be purchasing any day now once the right one comes up on adverts.
Also does anyone know if this model has a speaker built in?
Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
And sorry for digging up the old thread!

CiDeRmAn · 16-11-2015 02:47PM

Well done!
How much was it in the end?
Here's the link to the cable, same one I think I linked to before, it includes the sync input for the monitor, once plugged in all *should* be well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCART-to-4-x-BNC-2-x-Phono-breakout-cable-for-Sony-PVM-by-RETRO-GAMING-CABLES-/111745430885?hash=item1a048bf565:g:QqYAAOSw2VJVfc4Z

iamtony · 16-11-2015 03:39PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Well done!
How much was it in the end?
Here's the link to the cable, same one I think I linked to before, it includes the sync input for the monitor, once plugged in all *should* be well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCART-to-4-x-BNC-2-x-Phono-breakout-cable-for-Sony-PVM-by-RETRO-GAMING-CABLES-/111745430885?hash=item1a048bf565:g:QqYAAOSw2VJVfc4Z

Thanks for that.
Ended up paying €50, listed for €100 for the only one listed on adverts. A bit over the odds but not many were popping up so it was that or nothing. It seems to be in good condition anyway. I had it powered on earlier and I expected a white noise screen to appear but it was just blank, is that normal? It is powering on and I can here it working, and to answer my own question it does have sound. It seems to be in great condition physically and hadn't been used in 9 years.
So I will need that cable, a scart adapter and a snes rgb cable to make it work is that it for the snes?

The Last Bandit · 16-11-2015 03:53PM

You'll only get a blank screen if no signal is present, no snow like an old TV. Sound will mostly likely be crap on them as well.

iamtony · 16-11-2015 04:11PM

The Last Bandit wrote: »

You'll only get a blank screen if no signal is present, no snow like an old TV. Sound will mostly likely be crap on them as well.

I thought that but just wanted it make sure. Thanks. Don't mind if the sound isn't great once it has sound. And I cN play with that later if I feel the need to.

iamtony · 16-11-2015 11:25PM

What about the GameCube? I've never owned one, it's the one Nintendo console I've never had. Will this work on this? or would I be better off using as bigger screen regardless if it works or not?

iamtony · 21-11-2015 04:44PM

She's alive :-) still waiting for the proper cable to get the rgb sorted. the sound is fine on it also!

CiDeRmAn · 21-11-2015 05:02PM

Look at those colours though, fantastic!
Well done, your retro consoles and games will never look better, happy gaming.

iamtony · 21-11-2015 05:09PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Look at those colours though, fantastic!
Well done, your retro consoles and games will never look better, happy gaming.

Cheers. It is awesome. since playing emulated games and a SNES on an LCD I couldn't believe how ridiculously hard the games were but it turns out it was lag on the modern tvs all along!

iamtony · 23-11-2015 07:49PM

Here's a question for the experts in here. I got my rgb to scart for the pvm I mentioned above and didn't order the snes scart cable so I got a snes scart cable from the rage in town today and it's a weird cable, half way along the cable it has adapters to attach the normal AV cables I'll post a pic.
Anyway it won't work, I can get the image to appear on screen but only barely. I opened the scart connector and it does have lots of cables inside include red green and blue but I'm not convinced it's the correct scart cable.

I connected the snes to my LCD through the scart and it works fine but I'm not sure if it's coming through as rgb or AV as the scart socket does both.

iamtony · 23-11-2015 08:00PM

Here's a pic the pins in the connector that actually goes into the snes are in different location compared to the standard pins in the AV lead(yellow,red,white) which makes me think it could be the proper rgb scart cable.

iamtony · 23-11-2015 08:01PM

Here's a pic the pins in the connector that actually goes into the snes are in different location compared to the standard pins in the AV lead(yellow,red,white) which makes me think it could be the proper rgb scart cable.

CiDeRmAn · 23-11-2015 08:44PM

Here's a link to a very similar cable,
link
The item description suggests it is a RGB scart, but the reviews inform otherwise, and the three phono inputs are a dead giveaway that this is, in fact, a composite scart cable, which is fine for what it is, but what it is is not an RGB scart cable for a Nintendo console.

iamtony · 23-11-2015 08:59PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Here's a link to a very similar cable,
link
The item description suggests it is a RGB scart, but the reviews inform otherwise, and the three phono inputs are a dead giveaway that this is, in fact, a composite scart cable, which is fine for what it is, but what it is is not an RGB scart cable for a Nintendo console.

I suspected this was the case alright guess theirs no way to be sure without buying the proper one off amazon. At least I can get the money back for this cable anyway or it actually might come in handy for the GameCube or something. I thought it was strange though that I can see the image a little while it was connected to RGB ports on the pvm. I thought it would be been a case of all or nothing and the pins would of been in the wrong place to send any signal. Strange... Anyway I splashed out on smw 2 while I was in The rage(€40!) and it looks great on the little tv. Only time I actually played it before was on an emulator on a big LCD.

o1s1n · 23-11-2015 09:18PM

iamtony wrote: »

Here's a question for the experts in here. I got my rgb to scart for the pvm I mentioned above and didn't order the snes scart cable so I got a snes scart cable from the rage in town today and it's a weird cable, half way along the cable it has adapters to attach the normal AV cables I'll post a pic.
Anyway it won't work, I can get the image to appear on screen but only barely. I opened the scart connector and it does have lots of cables inside include red green and blue but I'm not convinced it's the correct scart cable.

I connected the snes to my LCD through the scart and it works fine but I'm not sure if it's coming through as rgb or AV as the scart socket does both.

Those AV ports are for taking sound out of the console and routing it to a stereo. I've a few RGB cables with them.

It sounds like it's a legit Snes RGB cable. However, there are two different types. One for the NTSC snes and one for the PAL snes.

From what I remember, using the NTSC one with a PAL snes makes the screen go too dark to see (pretty much black) and using the PAL one with the NTSC snes makes the image too bright.

What kind of Snes are you trying to use it with?

Myrddin · 23-11-2015 09:22PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Those AV ports are for taking sound out of the console and routing it to a stereo. I've a few RGB cables with them.

Same here

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