Man (55) arrested as €400k of cannabis found in car by garda

sonny.knowles · 20-11-2015 11:46PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A barman working for one year will have caused more health and social problems than this guy. I don't smoke weed but I don't allow the law to tell me what's right and wrong. He's actually doing nothing morally wrong so I hope he gets off.

Will have? No doubt you have something to back this up.

BMJD · 21-11-2015 12:06AM

are we not supposed to be discussing cases before the courts or is that rule only applied when boards are ****ting themselves of getting sued?

Collie D · 21-11-2015 12:22AM

my friend wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-55-arrested-as-400k-of-cannabis-found-in-car-by-garda-34218934.html

Leaving aside the 'legalise' debate, I'm more interested in posters correctly predicting the run of this case through the 'system'

Defence cliche bingo if you will

We start with what we know, 55 yo male.

- free legal aid, of course.
- bail to be granted, of course.
- grandfather?
- on disability?
- was told to drive the vehicle to pay off a drug debt for a relative
- won't reveal who told them to move said vehicle for 'fear of their life'

Feel free to add the inevitable excuses and when trial time rolls around we can have a proper round of 'legal defence and excuses bingo'

Rules:
-You can't post contradictory excuses
- relatives and friends of the perp excluded

I predict he's ****ed if you're called up for jury duty any time soon

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 01:53AM

sonny.knowles wrote: »

Will have? No doubt you have something to back this up.

You got me there. I can't think of any studies that indicate alcohol cause health issues or negatively effect societal cohesion.

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 01:54AM

my friend wrote: »

You're incapable of reading the OP and comprehending the instructions, it baffles me anyone would engage you...

You asked me to discuss a case. The rules on boards rightfully forbid me from discussing the case.

sonny.knowles · 21-11-2015 08:29AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

You got me there. I can't think of any studies that indicate alcohol cause health issues or negatively effect societal cohesion.

So alcohol in ANY quantity causes health issues or will 'negative effect societal cohesion'. Is that correct?

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 11:11AM

sonny.knowles wrote: »

So alcohol in ANY quantity causes health issues or will 'negative effect societal cohesion'. Is that correct?

So how much do you think a barman will serve in his lifetime? Can that amount be measured in nano or microlitres or maybe more realistically in litres?

Yes molecule for molecule alcohol causes more problems.

corner of hells · 21-11-2015 11:12AM

sonny.knowles wrote: »

So alcohol in ANY quantity causes health issues or will 'negative effect societal cohesion'. Is that correct?

I don't he means or said in "any" quantity , I think what saying is that alcohol can cause health issues and " create negative effect social cohesion ".

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 11:59AM

So yes Sonny a barman will generally do much more damage to society than someone selling cannabis.

sonny.knowles · 21-11-2015 12:20PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

So how much do you think a barman will serve in his lifetime? Can that amount be measured in nano or microlitres or maybe more realistically in litres?

Yes molecule for molecule alcohol causes more problems.

So we have switched from a year to a lifetime?

sonny.knowles · 21-11-2015 12:21PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

So yes Sonny a barman will generally do much more damage to society than someone selling cannabis.

So we have switched from 'will have caused' to 'will generally do much more damage'.

sonny.knowles · 21-11-2015 12:23PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I don't he means or said in "any" quantity , I think what saying is that alcohol can cause health issues and " create negative effect social cohesion ".

I'm not sure he knows what he means.

Plus he follows up with

Yes molecule for molecule alcohol causes more problems.

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 12:24PM

Take your pick S. A year VS alcohol or a lifetime of alcohol. The effects are pretty well documented. This isn't new information.

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 12:26PM

sonny.knowles wrote: »

I'm not sure he knows what he means.

Plus he follows up with

S you're looking for clarification on relatively simple points. What do you not understand?

my friend · 21-11-2015 12:46PM

@ unsteadyeddy the smoke seems to have had a bad affect on you, you're very argumentative and incapable of understanding simple instructions, the OP clearly states not to go down the tired old road you've attempted to drag this thread

Why don't you start your own thread for the conversation you want to have?

steddyeddy · 21-11-2015 12:50PM

my friend wrote: »

@ unsteadyeddy the smoke seems to have had a bad affect on you, you're very argumentative and incapable of understanding simple instructions, the OP clearly states not to go down the tired old road you've attempted to drag this thread

Why don't you start your own thread for the conversation you want to have?

Well you asked this " I'm more interested in posters correctly predicting the run of this case through the 'system' of us.

Boards doesn't allow discussion of ongoing cases so for that simple reason I'm not following any instructions.

c montgomery · 21-11-2015 12:50PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

so why not work to change them instead of disregarding them.

fair amount of difference between being gay and smoking weed

Both involve sucking on a pipe

I'll get my coat...

ScumLord · 21-11-2015 12:53PM

sonny.knowles wrote: »

Will have? No doubt you have something to back this up.

Spend a night drinking and compare the hangover to a night of smoking cannabis and you'll instantly appreciate the damage drink does. Alcohol is easily one of the nastiest drugs out there. It's dangerous to the person using even small amounts of it, and it's dangerous to society thanks to the effects it has on the person. Cannabis is bad for your health if you smoke it, but there's no definitive studies that show it's dangerous over long periods of time. The same can't be said for alcohol, we know for a fact it's a dangerous drug.

21-11-2015 01:00PM

I don't get this game at all

sonny.knowles · 21-11-2015 02:06PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

S you're looking for clarification on relatively simple points. What do you not understand?

I don't understand why you keep changing the goal posts.

sonny.knowles · 21-11-2015 02:07PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I don't get this game at all

i'm not surprised since Eddie is making the rules up as he goes and changing to suit himself.

Paramite Pie · 21-11-2015 02:12PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A barman working for one year will have caused more health and social problems than this guy. I don't smoke weed but I don't allow the law to tell me what's right and wrong. He's actually doing nothing morally wrong so I hope he gets off.

My concern is the manner with how this stuff get's into our hands. It's no co-incidence that Columbia one the ganglord capital of the world and also the largest producers of this stuff.

Legalising personal use is a lower priority than legalising production. Legalise that, and the global crime rates drop. Only legalise consumption in Western countries (which is where legalisation movements are strongest) and crime in Central & South America will rise significantly. Legalise both, and the world becomes a better place.;)

If this guy is involved with gang-crime then he did do something morally wrong by supporting that system. If he grew it himself then fair play.

Man (55) arrested as €400k of cannabis found in car by garda

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