Man (55) arrested as €400k of cannabis found in car by garda

my friend · 20-11-2015 12:27PM #1

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-55-arrested-as-400k-of-cannabis-found-in-car-by-garda-34218934.html

Leaving aside the 'legalise' debate, I'm more interested in posters correctly predicting the run of this case through the 'system'

Defence cliche bingo if you will

We start with what we know, 55 yo male.

- free legal aid, of course.
- bail to be granted, of course.
- grandfather?
- on disability?
- was told to drive the vehicle to pay off a drug debt for a relative
- won't reveal who told them to move said vehicle for 'fear of their life'

Feel free to add the inevitable excuses and when trial time rolls around we can have a proper round of 'legal defence and excuses bingo'

Rules:
-You can't post contradictory excuses
- relatives and friends of the perp excluded

Ash.J.Williams · 20-11-2015 12:30PM

my friend wrote: »

Leaving aside the 'legalise' debate, I'm more interested in posters correctly predicting the run of this case through the 'system'

Defence cliche bingo if you will

We start with what we know, 55 yo male.

- free legal aid, of course.
- bail to be granted, of course.
- grandfather?
- on disability?
- was told to drive the vehicle to pay off a drug debt for a relative
- won't reveal who told them to move said vehicle for 'fear of their life'

Feel free to add the inevitable excuses and when trial time rolls around we can have a proper round of 'legal defence and excuses bingo'

Rules:
-You can't post contradictory excuses
- relatives and friends of the perp excluded

i'll start by stating a guy i went to school with was caught with possibly more weed than this and got off scott free....if you call a 6 year suspended that.....gave a big sob story about hardship and the celtic tiger.....if it was me i would have been honest and got executed

nxbyveromdwjpg · 20-11-2015 01:05PM

Hopefully he gets off, if only so we can get another 100 of these moany joe duffy style threads about it

gramar · 20-11-2015 01:18PM

Leave him alone OP. He's just trying to make a living.

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 01:34PM

A barman working for one year will have caused more health and social problems than this guy. I don't smoke weed but I don't allow the law to tell me what's right and wrong. He's actually doing nothing morally wrong so I hope he gets off.

Flatzie_poo · 20-11-2015 01:37PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

He's actually doing nothing morally wrong so I hope he gets off.

You're completely right, I'm sure he was going to declare that €400k as income.

:rolleyes:

King George VI · 20-11-2015 01:56PM

Maybe he shouldn't have been wearing a Rastafarian hat with a matching "Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly" hemp made t-shirt and didn't have a bumper sticker that says "Gotta get dat paper".

kjl · 20-11-2015 01:57PM

It was for personal use.

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 01:58PM

Flatzie_poo wrote: »

You're completely right, I'm sure he was going to declare that €400k as income.

:rolleyes:

He could if it was legal.

The Backwards Man · 20-11-2015 01:59PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A barman working for one year will have caused more health and social problems than this guy. I don't smoke weed but I don't allow the law to tell me what's right and wrong. He's actually doing nothing morally wrong so I hope he gets off.

Because there's no carcinogens in a joint.

mynamejeff · 20-11-2015 02:03PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A barman working for one year will have caused more health and social problems than this guy. I don't smoke weed but I don't allow the law to tell me what's right and wrong. He's actually doing nothing morally wrong so I hope he gets off.

lol just walking down the street with no pants on are you ?

seriously that's one of the reasons Ireland is in the sad state it is in .
Irish people see the laws as a suggestion that the may or may not choose to follow

a weak justice system has let to a arrogant and feckless nation of selfish people

not just you eddy

KT10 · 20-11-2015 02:06PM

my friend wrote: »

man-55-arrested-as-400k-of-cannabis-found-in-car-by-garda-34218934.html

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuruow_the-guard-clip-street-value_shortfilms

diddley · 20-11-2015 02:11PM

Yawn..when are the drug laws changing again?

c_man · 20-11-2015 03:04PM

my friend wrote: »

Rules:
-You can't post contradictory excuses
- relatives and friends of the perp excluded

What about customers?

20-11-2015 03:11PM

AH and outrage bingo.

Random guy arrested on some random charge. Before ever knowing the outcome, and completely ignorant of the actual law, sentencing trends etc. what will AHers get into a tizzy about?

1. Free legal aid
2. Bail laws
3. "Judges in their ivory towers"
4. The Gardai
5. The prison system

harry Bailey esq · 20-11-2015 03:15PM

my friend wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-55-arrested-as-400k-of-cannabis-found-in-car-by-garda-34218934.html

Leaving aside the 'legalise' debate, I'm more interested in posters correctly predicting the run of this case through the 'system'

Defence cliche bingo if you will

We start with what we know, 55 yo male.

- free legal aid, of course.
- bail to be granted, of course.
- grandfather?
- on disability?
- was told to drive the vehicle to pay off a drug debt for a relative
- won't reveal who told them to move said vehicle for 'fear of their life'

Feel free to add the inevitable excuses and when trial time rolls around we can have a proper round of 'legal defence and excuses bingo'

Rules:
-You can't post contradictory excuses
- relatives and friends of the perp excluded

Plenty more where that came from, smokers, don't fret.

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 03:17PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

lol just walking down the street with no pants on are you ?

seriously that's one of the reasons Ireland is in the sad state it is in .
Irish people see the laws as a suggestion that the may or may not choose to follow

a weak justice system has let to a arrogant and feckless nation of selfish people

not just you eddy

I lived in a country where homosexuality was illegal. Laws against cannabis make as much sense. I think we have to pick which laws to follow tbh.

mynamejeff · 20-11-2015 03:22PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I lived in a country where homosexuality was illegal. Laws against cannabis make as much sense. I think we have to pick which laws to follow tbh.

so why not work to change them instead of disregarding them.

fair amount of difference between being gay and smoking weed

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 03:26PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

so why not work to change them instead of disregarding them.

fair amount of difference between being gay and smoking weed

Well I don't have a problem with either violation of the law TBH.

Do you think gay people should stop breaking the law in these countries and just work to change them?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 20-11-2015 03:31PM

This changed topic to the old reliable very quickly.

kneemos · 20-11-2015 03:31PM

I think we should do what Simon says.

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 03:32PM

Octavia Rotten Keynote wrote: »

This changed topic to the old reliable very quickly.

The topic is in relation to a nonsensical law. I don't see how it's changed topic.

Nodin · 20-11-2015 03:33PM

kneemos wrote: »

I think we should do what Simon says.

Is he on after Joeeeeeee?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 20-11-2015 03:34PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

The topic is in relation to a nonsensical law. I don't see how it's changed topic.

The OP specifically said to leave out the 'legalise' dimension. But sure look, carry on; the soapbox is empty.

mynamejeff · 20-11-2015 03:36PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well I don't have a problem with either violation of the law TBH.

Do you think gay people should stop breaking the law in these countries and just work to change them?

Aw you must have forgotten to read the second line of my post

here it is again to clarify

"fair amount of difference between being gay and smoking weed"

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 03:39PM

Octavia Rotten Keynote wrote: »

The OP specifically said to leave out the 'legalise' dimension. But sure look, carry on; the soapbox is empty.

I'm not talking about changing it. I'm responding to the OP's moral outrage against the man. I'm stating that moral outrage makes no sense and I'm giving the reason why.

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 03:49PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

Aw you must have forgotten to read the second line of my post

here it is again to clarify

"fair amount of difference between being gay and smoking weed"

No I didn't. I didn't see the point of it? Both are deemed immoral/dangerous by some people and made illegal in some parts of the world.

LDN_Irish · 20-11-2015 08:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

AH and outrage bingo.

Random guy arrested on some random charge. Before ever knowing the outcome, and completely ignorant of the actual law, sentencing trends etc. what will AHers get into a tizzy about?

1. Free legal aid
2. Bail laws
3. "Judges in their ivory towers"
4. The Gardai
5. The prison system

Shocked you missed this one out:

6: The defence lawyer

How can he sleep at night? Would he be so quick to perform one of the absolutely essential parts of any justice system if the perp was outside his children's creche handing out free reefers of potsticks to get his kids addicted???!?

asherbassad · 20-11-2015 09:50PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

lol just walking down the street with no pants on are you ?

seriously that's one of the reasons Ireland is in the sad state it is in .
Irish people see the laws as a suggestion that the may or may not choose to follow

a weak justice system has let to a arrogant and feckless nation of selfish people

not just you eddy

Jaysus, no wonder da cunthry's ruined!

I love listening to people vomit out that cliche. My aunt was a champion for it. Someone doesn't reprimand their cantankerous kid in a shop or someone drives through a red light....."arrra, no wonder the country's in the state it's in"

steddyeddy · 20-11-2015 10:04PM

I love the cognitive dissonance that pops up in this thread. Don't break the law just try and change it. Someone points out a law they disagree with and they say it's different. Primarily because they disagree with one law and not another.

my friend · 20-11-2015 11:42PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I love the cognitive dissonance that pops up in this thread. Don't break the law just try and change it. Someone points out a law they disagree with and they say it's different. Primarily because they disagree with one law and not another.

You're incapable of reading the OP and comprehending the instructions, it baffles me anyone would engage you...

Man (55) arrested as €400k of cannabis found in car by garda

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