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Sean O'Rourke Today Show

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,936 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    Problem is suddenly that today we have a stand-in for the stand-in! :eek:

    What's goin on there?

    Brophy is passable apart from a penchant to pronounce some words in a strange way, such as 'disruptive ' as ' dissrooptive',and 'money' as ' munny'.

    Would find it hard to hack that stuff for two hours:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    What's goin on there?
    One imagines that either SO'R's holiers/"on assignment"/sick note is getting so long that Keelin's suffering burnout, or perhaps more likely, the powers that be don't want any one person getting their feet too comfy under the desk and getting ideas above their present pay grade.
    Brophy is passable apart from a penchant to pronounce some words in a strange way, such as 'disruptive ' as ' dissrooptive',and 'money' as ' munny'.
    I don't find Brophy objectionable in small doses, but I think of him in the category of wet-behind-the-ears business reporter with a nasty case of the Dort-speaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Shanley was presenting Morning Ireland this morning. I'd assume that takes priority over the Today show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Shanley was presenting Morning Ireland this morning. I'd assume that takes priority over the Today show.

    Good point, I'd forgotten that, partly as I only caught a little bit of it (before hastily turning off the radio in a Tubridy Alert situation). But KS is a regular MI presenter, so it can't be a strict priority, otherwise she'd never do anything else. On occasion we've had cascading fill-ins, like Aine doing another show, and Shaddin standing in for her on The Week in Politics...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    And it's a Phil-In Boucher-Hayes day on Liveline. Early skiing holidays for the Montrose set, perhaps?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,936 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    One imagines that either SO'R's holiers/"on assignment"/sick note is getting so long that Keelin's suffering burnout, or perhaps more likely, the powers that be don't want any one person getting their feet too comfy under the desk and getting ideas above their present pay grade.


    I don't find Brophy objectionable in small doses, but I think of him in the category of wet-behind-the-ears business reporter with a nasty case of the Dort-speaks.[/j


    Yes, correct, very nasty in my opinion,half-tolerable over a short period, but two hours--it's off button for Breno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Real whiff of third sub off Brophy this morning.

    Is he in the seat for the week?
    I missed his closing link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    Trouble is that as the Indo didn't actually name him, they'd argue that it wasn't reasonably foreseeable that he'd be identified on the basis of the information in the article. That's if he even has been correctly identified, of course!

    Why would someone resign over something
    in the paper which does not mention him by
    name? The general public did not know the
    ex-Minister involved until Pat Carey's solicitor
    issued a statement on his behalf. Why didn't
    FF circle the wagons for Pat Carey, just as they
    did for some scurrilous politicians in the past?
    If you were innocent, would you not fight tooth and nail against such accusations, knowing that
    there was no basis for them? You most certainly would not resign from every organisation with which you were connected!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    Why would someone resign over something
    in the paper which does not mention him by
    name? The general public did not know the
    ex-Minister involved until Pat Carey's solicitor
    issued a statement on his behalf. Why didn't
    FF circle the wagons for Pat Carey, just as they
    did for some scurrilous politicians in the past?
    If you were innocent, would you not fight tooth and nail against such accusations, knowing that
    there was no basis for them? You most certainly would not resign from every organisation with which you were connected!!
    Why hold an investigation into any allegations made? Why, if there seems to be sufficient reason, conduct a trial? Just lock him up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Why hold an investigation into any allegations made? Why, if there seems to be sufficient reason, conduct a trial? Just lock him up.

    Why open your mouth if your name has not been mentioned in the publication?
    Why not allow the general public to keep wondering?
    Why would you think that allegations, regarding an unknown person, of which you
    first became aware when you read about them in the papers, (as Pat Carey has
    stated), might refer to you?

    If Pat Carey is innocent, I do feel sorry for him. If there is truth in the allegations,
    isn't it time the victims' complaints were investigated? It seems to me he folded
    very easily. If I were innocent, I would not he 'devastated' by something which
    I read in the papers which does not even mention my name!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    Why open your mouth if your name has not been mentioned in the publication? ...
    Because, apparently, his name was being mentioned on social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Because, apparently, his name was being mentioned on social media.

    A lot of things are mentioned in social media which never get into mainstream
    media. He could have held strong. FF dropped him like a hot potato, in spite of
    Timmy Dooley's denials that a 'crisis' meeting was held the night before Pat Carey's
    solicitor announced his resignation from the party. Not much loyalty displayed to
    one of their most steadfast members in his hour of need! Not one word of thanks
    to him for all services rendered down through the years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Nobody has a read on Northern Ireland to match Eamonn Mallie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Callan57 wrote: »
    Nobody has a read on Northern Ireland to match Eamonn Mallie
    He is fascinating!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Callan57 wrote: »
    Nobody has a read on Northern Ireland to match Eamonn Mallie

    He sounds like what that MLOD plonker wants to be


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 266 ✭✭Clive Bisquette


    Only I learned on SO'R today is that Dave Fanning comes across as an even bigger w@nker than I had imagined !

    Still remember how he sneered at folks who bought tickets for the Garth Brooks concerts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Only I learned on SO'R today is that Dave Fanning comes across as an even bigger w@nker than I had imagined !

    Still remember how he sneered at folks who bought tickets for the Garth Brooks concerts.

    lots of people sneered at folks who bought tickets for tickets for garth brooks :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 266 ✭✭Clive Bisquette


    neris wrote: »
    lots of people sneered at folks who bought tickets for tickets for garth brooks :P

    Probably ! Cool people like yourself and Fanning I would presume ?:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    It would have taken 10 minutes to clean that poor aul fella up and give him his dignity back

    all staff to run off their feet to give him 10 minutes assistance Mr Doran????

    bullsh1t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    It would have taken 10 minutes to clean that poor aul fella up and give him his dignity back

    all staff to run off their feet to give him 10 minutes assistance Mr Doran????

    bullsh1t

    What person with a 'degree' would lower themselves to clean some poor unfortunate up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    It would have taken 10 minutes to clean that poor aul fella up and give him his dignity back

    all staff to run off their feet to give him 10 minutes assistance Mr Doran????

    bullsh1t

    Indeed. The Health service is a disaster but the standard line of "Frontline staff are doing their best" is starting unraveling. Nurses and Doctors must have passed this poor man and left him lying in filth because they just couldn't be bothered. You can blame moral, you can blame having too many other things to do, but at a basic level of pure humanity this man should have been a priority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    Shocking that people are forced to band together in groups to defend their farms from these gangs because the justice industry has failed. Unfortunately I'll bet if there is an altercation and one of the gang vermin gets shot then there won't be a shortage of guards or lawyers to prosecute the poor farmer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,708 ✭✭✭serfboard


    touts wrote: »
    this man should have been a priority.
    Patient A is unwell, but in need of a cleanup.

    Patient B is seriously unwell.

    Who do you prioritise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    serfboard wrote: »
    Patient A is unwell, but in need of a cleanup.

    Patient B is seriously unwell.

    Who do you prioritise?

    The man was there for hours in that condition. Was there a bus crash or outbreak of Ebola that Beaumont were dealing with that day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,708 ✭✭✭serfboard


    touts wrote: »
    The man was there for hours in that condition.
    So length of stay trumps seriousness of condition?

    I seriously hope you don't work in the medical profession ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    touts wrote: »
    The man was there for hours in that condition. Was there a bus crash or outbreak of Ebola that Beaumont were dealing with that day?
    I don't want to belittle the problems patients suffer, but it might as well have been.

    It's a matter of staff/patient ratio. A major emergency event results in staff being swamped, and unable to deliver a full care package immediately that it is required. A significant shortage of staff has the same effect - and that is the point that Doran was making. He wasn't defending the failure in care: he was explaining it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    serfboard wrote: »
    So length of stay trumps seriousness of condition?

    I seriously hope you don't work in the medical profession ...

    No but I think it is pretty clear you do.

    The man was there for hours, possibly days in that condition. Are you seriously claiming there wasn't a nurse in the whole hospital who wasn't dealing with a critically ill patient every minute of that time. Rubbish. The much vaulted frontline staff messed up in this case. It happens. What is most worrying it the way people like Doran and yourself are closing ranks and refusing to accept responsibility for utter humanitarian failing in the health service.

    If we foster a culture where Nurses can't be blamed for anything then they will get away with everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    I don't want to belittle the problems patients suffer, but it might as well have been.

    It's a matter of staff/patient ratio. A major emergency event results in staff being swamped, and unable to deliver a full care package immediately that it is required. A significant shortage of staff has the same effect - and that is the point that Doran was making. He wasn't defending the failure in care: he was explaining it.

    But there wasn't a major emergency event. Nurses were busy but they had a choice to make and it appears they choose to ignore this man. For hours. And hours. And Hours...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,936 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I don't want to belittle the problems patients suffer, but it might as well have been.

    It's a matter of staff/patient ratio. A major emergency event results in staff being swamped, and unable to deliver a full care package immediately that it is required. A significant shortage of staff has the same effect - and that is the point that Doran was making. He wasn't defending the failure in care: he was explaining it.

    I couldn't listen to the show but if Mr Doran was explaining the reasons, I'm sure he outlined the numbers of staff rostered,the actual numbers there and any discrepancy between the two and the reason for any discrepancy?

    That,to me ,would be one of the more absolute basic pertinent figures in all this.

    Can you fill us in P?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    I couldn't listen to the show but if Mr Doran was explaining the reasons, I'm sure he outlined the numbers of staff rostered,the actual numbers there and any discrepancy between the two and the reason for any discrepancy?

    That,to me ,would be one of the more absolute basic pertinent figures in all this.

    Can you fill us in P?
    Haha, he did in his eye give those figures!


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