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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #5912
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Sick of hearing about it now. Where was the outcry for the innocent Russians, the bomb in Lebanon and Turkey? There was no silence before games for them or changing our Internet avatars to their flags yet they were all targeted by isis. Isis are scum no doubt and so is valuing a persons life from one country over another. All a bunch of hypocrites

    Just waiting to get on the keyboard and get that off your chest weren't you?

    How does it feel now? Do you feel it has helped the situation?

    Brave warrior you are.


  • #5913
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Just waiting to get on the keyboard and get that off your chest weren't you?

    How does it feel now? Do you feel it has helped the situation?

    Brave warrior you are.

    Thanks likewise.Warrior of facts. Better than a sheep. Malian national anthem before the premiership games next weekend anyone?


  • #5914
    thomasj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Also I found this interesting
    There’s more on the movements of Salah Abdeslam from Belgian website Sud.info.

    An alleged friend of the fugitive claims Abdeslam was in Molenbeek as recently as Tuesday night, despite a Europe-wide manhunt.

    “Salah is in Molenbeek. I met him on Tuesday night. He was there, but not for long,†the friend reportedly told the website. He said Abdeslam had met him in order to get him to give a message to his brother, Mohamed.

    “He told me he had gone too far. It went beyond what it was meant to be. But he could not turn himself in. This could have consequences for his family,†the friend said, reportedly implying that Abdeslam feared reprisals from Islamic State against relatives.

    Taken from guardian live feed


  • #5915
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Thanks likewise. Malian national anthem before the premiership games next weekend anyone?

    Enjoying using a tragedy for your personal agenda there?


  • #5916
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    Samaris wrote: »
    Enjoying using a tragedy for your personal agenda there?

    No just pointing out the hypocrisy you subscribe too. You just bit the dangling carrot


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  • #5917
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Thanks likewise. Malian national anthem before the premiership games next weekend anyone?

    People die of road accidents all over the world.

    Do the media in Ireland have an obligation to report them in every country in the world?

    Youre missing the point totally.

    You think you are been great trying to make people feel guilty with your little crusade but who is it helping at the end of the day?


  • #5918
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Thanks I won't f off but thanks for the offer. Oh the first one is calling me a hipster left wing activist from a right whinger article. Absolutely riveting I won't bother checking the others I'm neither thank god. Let me guess you have the French avatar too and I hurt your feelings

    Ha, yeah. You're obviously not as clued in as you think you are. Jamiles Lartey is a Guardian journalist covering policing and social justice and is behind the project called The Counted, which chronicles every person killed by police in the US in 2015.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/01/us-police-killings-this-year-black-americans


  • #5919
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    No just pointing out the hypocrisy you subscribe too. You just bit the dangling carrot

    Hardly hypocritical, go back a page and actually read my comment on it before getting all bolshy.

    But nice implication that you are actually trolling, trying to get a reaction with your "dangling carrot". Why not go find a different thread to do that in?


  • #5920
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Thanks likewise.Warrior of facts. Better than a sheep. Malian national anthem before the premiership games next weekend anyone?

    Why don't you jump on an African board next week and start lecturing them that they didn't show enough grief or concern when Paris was attacked?


  • #5921
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    Kunst doesn't have an opinion of his own he lives off articles other write. There's a good sheep


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  • #5922
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    People die of road accidents all over the world.

    Do the media in Ireland have an obligation to report them in every country in the world?

    Youre missing the point totally.

    You think you are been great trying to make people feel guilty with your little crusade but who is it helping at the end of the day?

    No doubt you'd be more effected by a car crash in France than Russia Lebanon turkey or mali


  • #5923
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,499 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    you're all bickering around in circles....the fact is EVERYONE needs to cop the f** on to sort this mess...

    change foreign policy to help the world instead satisfying your own greed


  • #5924
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    Why don't you jump on an African board next week and start lecturing them that they didn't show enough grief or concern when Paris was attacked?

    I wasn't aware you were Africans spokesman seeing as you speak for all of them


  • #5925
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    No doubt you'd be more effected by a car crash in France than Russia Lebanon turkey or mali

    No but seems France is pretty close to Ireland it now is more noticeable to people here. Its only natural for people with families for example to worry its getting a bit close now.

    Its human nature.


  • #5926
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    Samaris wrote: »
    Hardly hypocritical, go back a page and actually read my comment on it before getting all bolshy.

    But nice implication that you are actually trolling, trying to get a reaction with your "dangling carrot". Why not go find a different thread to do that in?

    No I was pointing out the hypocrisy and you bit in to it thus proving you're a hypocrite. I don't go searching for nonsense


  • #5927
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Kunst doesn't have an opinion of his own he lives off articles other write. There's a good sheep

    Rather than giving people jip about how they feel based on my inflated sense of moral superiority, I disengage my head from my arse and read up about a topic.


  • #5928
    Weatherproof79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Weatherproof79


    There's an angry mob of sheep in here who react quite aggressively when you point out their hypocrisy. They don't like it, makes them aware of themselves. Herd mentality. Pray for mali. If there's westerners there it'll be ten times the event for the sheep. Baaaye


  • #5929
    Flint Fredstone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Flint Fredstone


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    No I was pointing out the hypocrisy and you bit in to it thus proving you're a hypocrite. I don't go searching for nonsense

    You are proving nothing here other than the fact you are talking nonsense.


  • #5930
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    I wasn't aware you were Africans spokesman seeing as you speak for all of them

    Ha ha what, who did I speak for?

    Are you going to be monitoring their levels of grief for attacks in Europe or not?


  • #5931
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    No I was pointing out the hypocrisy and you bit in to it thus proving you're a hypocrite. I don't go searching for nonsense

    ..Do..you actually know the meaning of the word hypocrisy? Or...proof if it comes to that. O.O


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  • #5932
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Shh I think hes gone!

    Amazing that's the best some people can do in situations like this.


  • #5933
    StewartGriffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Pray for mali. If there's westerners there it'll be ten times the event

    Media wise, this is true. The very first thing the news channels look for is how many westerners are staying at said hotel.

    People can say that they don't follow the likes of Sky News etc, but people can only absorb the news and information they are fed and that feed is controlled by Media organisations.

    Sky news last night, presenter said it seemed the wanted terrorist on the run "bottled it" during the Paris attack and didn't go through with it. What the hell kind of a thing is that to say?


  • #5934
    DubVelo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭DubVelo


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Sick of hearing about it now. Where was the outcry for the innocent Russians, the bomb in Lebanon and Turkey? There was no silence before games for them or changing our Internet avatars to their flags yet they were all targeted by isis. Isis are scum no doubt and so is valuing a persons life from one country over another. All a bunch of hypocrites

    Do you remember the Russians shooting down a plane full of 298 innocent mostly Europeans over Ukraine?


  • #5935
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    People complaining about others not grieving or changing their profile to flags for every incident is the new Irish Water / bankers quip, isn't it?


  • #5936
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    DubVelo wrote: »
    Do you remember the Russians shooting down a plane full of 298 innocent mostly Europeans over Ukraine?

    Yeah, I heard those blown up at Sharm directed that operation. So all good eh? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    The one about western people 'not caring' about the world is hilarious though. We're always caring about something or another - as if everyone outside the west is a poor victim. Mind you it did shame me as a Brit when some of 'us' in Sharm were moaning about the Russians getting rescue flights out of there before them. Clearly didn't matter to them when it was a Russian flight with 200 people on board.


  • #5937
    DubVelo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭DubVelo


    fr336 wrote: »
    Yeah, I heard those blown up at Sharm directed that operation. So all good eh? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I know, I know... it would just be a little hard to fly the Russian flag.
    And there was quite a bit of outcry about Ankara.

    TBH I feel like slapping the 'what about Turkey, what about Lebanon?' bunch.
    It's like; 'Don't tell me who I should care about!'


  • #5938
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Weatherproof79 wrote: »
    Thanks likewise.Warrior of facts. Better than a sheep. Malian national anthem before the premiership games next weekend anyone?

    You must really foam at the mouth when RTE report on a murder in Dublin but don't report on a murder in Kuwait. Disgraceful stuff better tell Joe Duffy.


  • #5939
    TommyKnocker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    DubVelo wrote: »
    Jumped to conclusions based on other posters, my apologies.

    I would have thought it was pretty obvious what was terrorism, but there you go.

    Is it though? Dylan Thomas who Killed those black people in a church in South Carolina was not charged with terrorism. If however it had of been Mohammed in a christian church, he most likely would have been charged with Terrorism. Any act of aggression by Arabs or followers of Islam and the perpetrators are instantly branded as "Terrorists". this is not the case when the perpetrators are "white" and the victims of color.


  • #5940
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Yosef.coen wrote: »
    not duck and cover because the truth is unpalatable.

    Indeed ;)


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  • #5941
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    silverharp wrote: »
    I havnt followed this but you might be strawmanning his point. Islam doesnt say that you must be violent or you are a bad Muslim so most people do what they do around the world, get on with their life. luckily for the west Jesus didnt command an army or run an empire :pac:

    You're telling that to the wrong fella.
    Depp wrote:
    I dont claim Islam=violent nor have I said every muslim is a terrorist. I'm
    saying that the quran which is the basis of islam is it not? contains verses
    that when taught as cannon, as the word of god, which they are, contribute to the insanity of radical muslims and provide a tool for radicals to recruit
    impressionable young men and women who have it ingrained in there religious viewpoint. Indeed many muslims use there rational judgement and ignore these verses but do you disagree that these verses are dangerous? do you think they should be there? I've tried to make it clear my problem lies not with Islam as a whole, but Islam in its current form where it teaches children that god saysn to behead non believers.

    ....if that's the case then why isn't France, with its very large muslim population, a war zone 365 days a year?


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