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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #2912
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Dunno - maybe it's Humphrey Gilbert - in 1569 he came up with a great way to deal with Irish 'rebels' during the Desmond Rebellion.


    Terror has been a factor of every 'war' so I don't think IS are doing anything but follow in the footsteps of the psychos who went before them from all creeds and cultures.

    Or perhaps it's the actions of U.S. troops in Vietnam when they massacred most of the inhabitant of My Lai in 1968.

    Or maybe it's Reginald Dyer who ordered his troops to open fire in Amritsar in 1919 killing hundreds of unarmed men, women and children.


    Terror has always been a recognized military tactic - the difference now is that IS are adroit in employing social media to disseminate the images.

    I don't even remember the original point, at this stage. Congratulations.


  • #2913
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    inforfun wrote: »
    Look up the German for captain (of a sports team).
    By that logic, it would mean there are at least 2 anti-semites on a football pitch for every match in Germany.

    Germany isn't the best country for football hooliganism to be fair.


  • #2914
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    custard gannet wrote: »
    It seems a pretty big coincidence if it isn't, and the French authorities have previous when it comes to downplaying Islamist attacks as being something other than what they clearly are.

    That's certainly a possibility but trains have derailed before without the need for terrorism & sometimes tragedies do occur at the same time as other bad stuff is going on. Let's wait & see what further details emerge.


  • #2915
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    Germany isn't the best country for football hooliganism to be fair.

    I said pitch, not stands.


  • #2916
    Lights On
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Lights On


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Theres a deafening silence here
    on the whole topic.
    A few threads, even one offering sympathy at the inevitable backlash have been deleted within minutes.

    What would you like them to do? Every Muslim on boards come out and tell you how they don't agree with what has happened?


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  • #2917
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    Genuine question to anyone: given we're buying their oil, why would Qatar and SA want to sponsor terrorism in the west?

    It isn't the Governments themselves doing this, it's wealthy individuals with ties to the ruling families. The West has put a lot of pressure to curb this, and the new King of Saudi Arabia has allegedly been trying to reign it in.

    They're ideologically pre-disposed and have too much money for their own good.


  • #2918
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Europe is at war now sadly.

    Lets all give France the support it requires to deal with these animals.


    How are you supporting France ?


  • #2919
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Lights On wrote: »
    What would you like them to do? Every Muslim on boards come out and tell you how they don't agree with what has happened?

    Ah...no...:rolleyes:
    But seeing as we are talking about it dontcha kinda think it would be a topic of discussion amongst followers of the faith being vilified...just an ickle bit?
    Whats odd is that any attempt TO talk about it is being deleted.


  • #2920
    Rabo Karabekian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭Rabo Karabekian


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    Genuine question to anyone: given we're buying their oil, why would Qatar and SA want to sponsor terrorism in the west?

    I'm not sure about the logic behind Saudi or Qatari support for ISIS (not even sure if it's necessarily a thing, although I wouldn't be surprised) but the general theory behind similar support for Al-Qaeda was the many different factions in the ruling house of Saudi Arabia, as well as a desire to appease certain sections of their population that subscribed to the tenets of Wahhabism. ISIS seem to be even more fanatical than Al-Qaeda, but as far as I know, their ideology is derived from Wahhabism so maybe the same factors are at play here.


  • #2921
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    It isn't the Governments themselves doing this, it's wealthy individuals with ties to the ruling families. The West has put a lot of pressure to curb this, and the new King of Saudi Arabia has allegedly been trying to reign it in.

    They're ideologically pre-disposed and have too much money for their own good.

    The don't like the Iranians either.


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  • #2922
    RedemptionZ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    Lights On wrote: »
    What would you like them to do? Every Muslim on boards come out and tell you how they don't agree with what has happened?

    It's already been said. For all the peaceful and good Muslims to out and stand up to the recruiters that radicalise young men in their community. They would be well known in their community. Doing nothing is allowing it to happen.


  • #2923
    Smiles35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    inforfun wrote: »
    Look up the German for captain (of a sports team).
    By that logic, it would mean there are at least 2 anti-semites on a football pitch for every match in Germany.

    The ref and the crowd. *When left idle and rowdy


  • #2924
    Very Bored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Very Bored


    Drakares wrote: »
    I am pointing out what the word means. Perhaps you are the one jumping to conclusions based on your lack of knowledge.

    I didn't jump to any conclusions about you mate, nor do I lack knowledge. This is an English language forum and subsequently words here carry their English language meaning. You can try to dress it up with any variety of rubbish that you so choose but the fact remains that here we are speaking in English. Different words have different meanings in different settings and the meaning of the word Fuhrer in an anglophone setting is clear.
    walshyn93 wrote: »
    Maybe you should respond to his claims of antisemitism rather than reporting to an ad hominem to hide the ugly truth.

    The only thing ugly on here are those manipulating the tragic circumstances of last night to pursue a racist crusade.

    Those spouting ignorant inbred rubbish about how all Muslims are somehow guilty for what happened last night really ought to read the article on page 6 of The Daily Mail today "The Angelic Boy Who Grew Up To Be A Monster" and pay attention to what the devout Muslim father of Jihadi John told his son when he told him he was going to Syria:

    "Not even his parents will mourn Jihadi John's death.

    'He is a dog, an animal and a terrorist', said father Jassem Emwazi. He described how his son had asked for his blessing to travel to Syria - and said he had responded: 'F*** you, I hope you die before you get there'".

    All Muslims same... yeah right :rolleyes:.


  • #2925
    custard gannet
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭custard gannet


    Custardpi wrote: »
    That's certainly a possibility but trains have derailed before without the need for terrorism & sometimes tragedies do occur at the same time as other bad stuff is going on. Let's wait & see what further details emerge.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/alleged-train-derailment-plot-a-very-simple-idea-trial-hears-1.2942772

    Seems it has been tried before. A team of men equipped with grinders and shovels could cut out a few foot of track in a relatively short space of time on a quiet line.


  • #2926
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    A 41-year-old man from France is being questioned by police after “what appears to be a firearm” was discovered at Gatwick Airport, Sussex Police said.


  • #2927
    Orangebrigade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Orangebrigade


    That video should win some prizes, incredible footage and it is the type of thing most people don't see. Absolute chaos and still you see people caring for others even if it might put themselves in danger. That is pure instincts which have been in man since time began.


  • #2928
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    How are you supporting France ?

    By saying we need to support France. What do you want me to do exactly? I'm giving moral support. I also suggest that intelligence agencies need to work together and work harder. We also need to support the repatriation of dangerous individuals back to whatever rock they climbed out from under and internment without trial possibly should be encouraged where some people offer a real threat.

    Its always late reacting to events like this. Why bother waiting until it happens again? There are thousands of disaffected potential jihadists in France and its only a matter of time before it happens again....and again....and again.


  • #2929
    Very Bored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Very Bored


    inforfun wrote: »
    Look up the German for captain (of a sports team).
    By that logic, it would mean there are at least 2 anti-semites on a football pitch for every match in Germany.

    That's using it in a German language context which is completely different.

    Explain to me why, if I were to walk though Dublin with a tshirt with a Celtic cross on it nothing would happen to me but if I was to walk through Rome or Berlin I could potentially be liable to arrest?

    Because things mean different things depending on the context and here, on Boards, an English language forum, the word Fuhrer only has one connotation.


  • #2930
    Orangebrigade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Orangebrigade


    https://twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    Christ..
    #Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews
    Please don't let them come to Northern Ireland, thanks.


  • #2931
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,290 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Yannis Koutsomitis
    ‏@YanniKouts
    #Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews
    https://twitter.com/YanniKouts

    Oh dear.


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  • #2932
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    Very Bored wrote: »
    That's using it in a German language context which is completely different.

    Explain to me why, if I were to walk though Dublin with a tshirt with a Celtic cross on it nothing would happen to me but if I was to walk through Rome or Berlin I could potentially be liable to arrest?

    Because things mean different things depending on the context and here, on Boards, an English language forum, the word Fuhrer only has one connotation.

    Jesus Christ man, let it go..


  • #2933
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    MS1962 wrote: »
    Islam is perfect?

    Clearly not perfect. How can a fictional fantasy be fine if it leads in any way to people killing others ? The problem is Islam, not the people.


  • #2934
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    If it is confirmed that at least some of the attackers were refugees then there are a few European leaders whose political future will be very much in doubt, Merkel in first place. That may be unfair, given the impossibility (both moral & practical) of doing nothing in the face of the ME/Maghreb crisis but I doubt a traumatised electorate will see it that way.


  • #2935
    long range shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    That video should win some prizes, incredible footage and it is the type of thing most people don't see. Absolute chaos and still you see people caring for others even if it might put themselves in danger. That is pure instincts which have been in man since time began.

    That instinct doesnt seem to work for certain people though


  • #2936
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Theres a deafening silence here
    on the whole topic.
    A few threads, even one offering sympathy at the inevitable backlash have been deleted within minutes.

    Total posts in that whole forum total over the last 7 days: one. By you.


  • #2937
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    Custardpi wrote: »
    If it is confirmed that at least some of the attackers were refugees then there are a few European leaders whose political future will be very much in doubt, Merkel in first place. That may be unfair, given the impossibility (both moral & practical) of doing nothing in the face of the ME/Maghreb crisis but I doubt a traumatised electorate will see it that way.

    Yep, it's going to kick up a proper ****storm


  • #2938
    custard gannet
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭custard gannet


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/YanniKouts

    Oh dear.

    I don't get this. We were told this wouldn't happen. :rolleyes:


  • #2939
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    long range shooter wrote: »
    That instinct doesnt seem to work for certain people though

    Not sure what the point of this comment is, are you criticizing the people running for their lives?


  • #2940
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,993 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    The scary thing about these attacks is now that they are targeting sports events and music events too, one of the attacks happened at Bataclan during a Eagles of Death Metal concert, so sports fans and music fans are also looked at, as infidels. What next, an attack on Glastonbury or Coachella festival or Wimbledon.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34819608

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #2941
    Very Bored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Very Bored


    Arne_Saknussem wrote: »
    Jesus Christ man, let it go..

    Good argument, well done :rolleyes:.


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