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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #2132
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Saipanne wrote: »
    He's right. Only light can do it. Like the light from the nukes dropped in WWII.

    Good point. You should keep posting that.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #2133
    gordongekko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Clare Daly and Mick Wallace, so far. Live tweeting while people were being shot to death.

    To each other from the bed?


  • #2134
    gordongekko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    128 dead 99 critical according to bbc


  • #2135
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    efb wrote: »
    He said the silence was deafening in the muslim world. Im indicating its being condemned by a prominent muslim country

    Wait, you don't honestly think they mean it do you? :)


  • #2136
    wexandproud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    efb wrote: »
    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King

    ya , worked out well for him poor fella


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  • #2137
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    Who's apologising for extremists?


    People have been apologizing for them for years. Nobody has fronted up on here but they will be back around when it dies down. They are already weaseling their way in by proposing we do nothing.


  • #2138
    jon1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭jon1981


    efb wrote: »
    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King

    Idealist nonsense. Look at the amount of migrants and Muslims taking in by France and EU countries.... Doesn't seem to count for much amongst these monsters. They are taking advantage of their generosity.


  • #2139
    play it again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭play it again


    Deleted User wrote: »
    When the Irish bombed and shot people in other countries, did you think we should have been placed in concentration camps?

    Can people stop the sheer and utter nonsense? Concentration camps? You cannot possibly be serious.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Of course I would.

    We live on an island where thousands died at the hands of terrorists.

    Do you ever change the record ? You realise that constantly drawing corelation between 2 totally unrelated events just makes your posts seem nonsensical


  • #2140
    MonsterCookie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    efb wrote: »
    He said the silence was deafening in the muslim world. Im indicating its being condemned by a prominent muslim country

    I thought your point was fairly easy to follow given that it was in direct response to the deafening silence comment!

    Then again, plenty here will need no encouragement to go on the offensive without really pausing to think...

    The Saudis need to do much more than this though.


  • #2141
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Panrich wrote: »
    We are in a fight where one side does not adhere to any rules of human decency and THEY are ultimately responsible for any actions they bring upon their own communities.

    What was decent about unleashing incendiary devices on restaurants to burn the civilians inside or blowing up kids out shopping? What should that have brought on the Irish community?


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  • #2142
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    jon1981 wrote: »
    Idealist nonsense. Look at the amount of migrants and Muslims taking in by France and EU countries.... Doesn't seem to count for much amongst these monsters. They are taking advantage of their generosity.

    Not what it means. We don't take migrants for the sake of asshole extremists - they don't want people that could be under their heel in another country after all, do they? We take in migrants because the wheel turns and someday it will again be our people that will be taken in elsewhere and also because migrants have actually got a lot to offer the home economy.

    *braces for the magnetic attraction this comment will have to the angry people*


  • #2143
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    play it again wrote: »
    Do you ever change the record ? You realise that constantly drawing corelation between 2 totally unrelated events just makes your posts seem nonsensical

    It's very awkward isn't it?

    When people scream "forinn terrorists is terrible, send em home" and some say "erm, hate to point out the very obvious"...


  • #2144
    Nichard Dixon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭Nichard Dixon


    You get up in the morning and this ridiculous sh ¡te about the IRA is still going on. Stop using this tragedy as an excuse to play games regarding Irish politics which has nothing to do with it. The French Resistance planted bombs in Paris, but too they have feck all to do with this situation.

    Show a bit of respect.


  • #2145
    wexandproud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    efb wrote: »
    He said the silence was deafening in the muslim world. Im indicating its being condemned by a prominent muslim country

    there condemnation is just lip service as it still funds and harbours terrosists


  • #2146
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Nichard Dixon wrote: »
    You get up in the morning and this ridiculous sh ite about the IRA is still going on. Stop using this tragedy as an excuse to play games regarding Irish politics which has nothing to do with it. The French Resistance planted bombs in Paris, but too they have feck all to do with this situation.

    Show a bit of respect.

    Its absolutely ridiculous but god help em its all these liberal idiots have to cling to, they were bringing up the crusades for gods sake


  • #2147
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nichard Dixon wrote: »
    You get up in the morning and this ridiculous sh ite about the IRA is still going on. Stop using this tragedy as an excuse to play games regarding Irish politics which has nothing to do with it. The French Resistance planted bombs in Paris, but too they have feck all to do with this situation.

    Show a bit of respect.

    You evidently have not followed how the thread evolved.

    Or you would know that it was in response to people using this tragedy to promote their "send Muslins to concentration camps" routine.

    Now, do you agree with that sentiment?


  • #2148
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    jon1981 wrote: »
    Idealist nonsense. Look at the amount of migrants and Muslims taking in by France and EU countries.... Doesn't seem to count for much amongst these monsters. They are taking advantage of their generosity.

    That means nothing, how many 100s of 1000s of Irish migrants were in the UK when the IRA bombed Britain?

    Its not the every migrants fault some sick ****s have a twisted agenda


  • #2149
    Mesrine65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You evidently have not followed how the thread evolved.

    Or you would know that it was in response to people using this tragedy to promote their "send Muslins to concentration camps" routine.

    Now, do you agree with that sentiment?
    Guantanamo?


  • #2150
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    That means nothing, how many 100s of 1000s of Irish migrants were in the UK when the IRA bombed Britain?

    Its not the every migrants fault some sick ****s have a twisted agenda

    Apparently some get annoyed by the correlation.

    Something about "but that was by us, not forinners, terrorism in our name wasn't that bad, now stick em in concentration camps".


  • #2151
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Nobody has fronted up on here but they will be back around when it dies down.

    So nobody then. Gotcha.


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  • #2152
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    That means nothing, how many 100s of 1000s of Irish migrants were in the UK when the IRA bombed Britain?

    Its not the every migrants fault some sick ****s have a twisted agenda

    So, by your logic, as we are Irish, and the IRA committed atrocities in the past, we should give these Evil murderers who are guided by their evil hate spreading text, a pass? pull your head out of your arse


  • #2153
    play it again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭play it again


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's very awkward isn't it?

    When people scream "forinn terrorists is terrible, send em home" and some say "erm, hate to point out the very obvious"...

    You're making what has happened in France seem unimportant with your inane and inappropriate comments , why do you constantly refer back to irish terrorists , it doesn't validate any point you're trying to make , In fact it just makes a ridicule of what you're really trying to say , you need to get rid of that chip on your shoulder and stop living in the past


  • #2154
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Depp wrote: »
    So, by your logic, as we are Irish, and the IRA committed atrocities in the past, we should give these Evil murderers who are guided by their evil hate spreading text, a pass? pull your head out of your arse

    No, how thick do you have be to only be able to jump from one extreme to the other?

    By your logic we can only blame 100% of Muslims, or 100% of Irish, for what extremists do.

    Both are wrong, as I pointed out.


  • #2155
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    play it again wrote: »
    You're making what has happened in France seem unimportant with your inane and inappropriate comments , why do you constantly refer back to irish terrorists , it doesn't validate any point you're trying to make , In fact it just makes a ridicule of what you're really trying to say , you need to get rid of that chip on your shoulder and stop living in the past

    So you don't disagree with the "Muslims for concentration camps" stuff I was responding to?

    Have the courage to say it. Don't splutter about how outrageous it is to talk about the IRA bombing pubs and restaurants on a thread about terrorism.


  • #2156
    Orangebrigade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Orangebrigade


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    No, how thick do you have be to only be able to jump from one extreme to the other?

    By your logic we can only blame 100% of Muslims, or 100% of Irish, for what extremists do.

    Both are wrong, as I pointed out.
    I blame ISLAM which is a doctrine.


  • #2157
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    No, how thick do you have be to only be able to jump from one extreme to the other?

    By your logic we can only blame 100% of Muslims, or 100% of Irish, for what extremists do.

    Both are wrong, as I pointed out.

    The actions of the IRA werent done on behalf of a religious text that all irish people hold as the word of god, the atrocities done by Isis and the likes are motivated by the word of the quran, a text which the islamic faith holds to be the exact and unchanging word of god, read the quran and then you can debate how Islam is not the problem


  • #2158
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    I blame ISLAM which is a doctrine.

    And yet, most regard the above as racist.

    What a world...


  • #2159
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Just watching the footage from outside the theatre absolutely terrifying stuff. Shell shocked people stumbling away while three others were outside the windows.

    Suddenly staging France 2016 doesn't seem like a good idea.


  • #2160
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The problem is that at its core, muslim religion does not tolerate any other and does not tolerate any 'insult' to it.

    So whether or not the majority of muslims can be painted with the same brush, at the core of their religion is this intolerance. It ranges from the extreme of killings etc to the more 'acceptable' demand that all women wear a veil, no alcohol etc. Of course the majarity of muslims accept that this is not acceptable and do not follow this core idealogy.

    In the West we show tolerance to these beliefs, yet are told we must accept their intolerance of ours as other we are being intolerant.

    We need to demand that countries like Saudi etc now desist from this intolerance in order to join the rest of us in the 21st century.

    The main problem is how to differentiate those radical muslims, those that believe that western values are evil, from those that accept the beliefs of others.


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  • #2161
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Depp wrote: »
    The actions of the IRA werent done on behalf of a religious text that all irish people hold as the word of god, the atrocities done by Isis and the likes are motivated by the word of the quran, a text which the islamic faith holds to be the exact and unchanging word of god, read the quran and then you can debate how Islam is not the problem

    It was done in the name of nationalism, which is no more or less valid a reason than religion.


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