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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #2102
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    efb wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia condemned the attacks

    Saudi Arabia has a complicated history with Islamic extremism. Publicly denouncing acts of terror while in the background their societal structure is aligned closely with the ideals of the extremists. Usually their posturing is telling the west what the west wants to hear but at the same time they are afraid of their lives of upsetting the extremists they fear could take control of their country. Greedy pigs( Saudi leadership) who have grown fat from oil money and are barely tolerated by the hardliners in their own country who essentially outnumber them.

    Glazers Out!



  • #2103
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    efb wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia condemned the attacks

    Well that really means a lot.


  • #2104
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,546 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    acb121 wrote: »
    I think you will find there are very few blaming " all Muslims ".

    I think you will find people are more adept at analysing events than you think.

    People are blaming " Islam ".

    All faiths are not as enthusiastic and prolific as Islam in religous extremism and terrorism.

    " Ordianary " muslims have been indoctinated to believe that every human being on the planet must submit to Allah. So there is a bit of theological problem
    I blame islam too, any belief system that venerates martyrdom is abhorrent but there are plenty of people calling for the borders to be shut down. We need to target the extremists.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #2105
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    play it again wrote: »
    we need concentration camps to put these people until they can be expunged from Europe

    When the Irish bombed and shot people in other countries, did you think we should have been placed in concentration camps?

    Can people stop the sheer and utter nonsense? Concentration camps? You cannot possibly be serious.


  • #2106
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    Head in sand. Just do nothing and let them carry on blowing people up.

    My head is far from being in the sand but your simplifying solution has being tried before, and failed and just went on to recruit more people into the ranks of extreme organisation ,
    but then again you being what you are you would no all about heads in sand me auld mate, no surrender.


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  • #2107
    nxbyveromdwjpg
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    The scumbag extremists that did this are trying to provoke a war.

    Their goal is to cause a backlash against muslims in general, driving some of those towards extremism, leading to even more attacks, causing an even stronger backlash, and so on.

    Their end goal is to unify muslims against all unbelievers, fight a big war which they believe they're destined to win, and unify the world in some kind of global caliphate.

    A lot of posters here are playing right into their hands.


  • #2108
    from_atozinc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭from_atozinc


    efb wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia condemned the attacks

    Oh whoopi fookin do

    Sure everything is ok then. : /


  • #2109
    clappyhappy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    Would any of ye fly to Paris today? My neighbours are due to fly this morning for 4 days, we are minding their kids. Don't think I would go. City in shut down, Would ye??


  • #2110
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    clappyhappy wrote: »
    Would any of ye fly to Paris today? My neighbours are due to fly this morning for 4 days, we are minding their kids. Don't think I would go. City in shut down, Would ye??

    Of course not


  • #2111
    wexandproud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    Deleted User wrote: »
    When the Irish bombed and shot people in other countries, did you think we should have been placed in concentration camps?

    Can people stop the sheer and utter nonsense? Concentration camps? You cannot possibly be serious.

    when the irish bombed places it was not done as a fundamental part of the catholic religion and there was not hundereds of thousands of people with the same beliefs entering uncontrolled to europe


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  • #2112
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    clappyhappy wrote: »
    Would any of ye fly to Paris today? My neighbours are due to fly this morning for 4 days, we are minding their kids. Don't think I would go. City in shut down, Would ye??

    Of course I would.

    We live on an island where thousands died at the hands of terrorists.


  • #2113
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Great interview with a Muslim liberal journalist Asra Nomani a few hours ago. She speaks in favour of reform within Islam & has advocated for an Islamic Bill of Rights for women. She does not mince her words when criticising the Western "deniers & deflectors" who reject the idea that Islam in any way to blame for violence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWNv97yq4Fc


  • #2114
    6781
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭6781


    efb wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia strongly condemns and denounces terror explosions in Paris,foreign ministry official source says
    #SPA
    spa.gov.sa/English/detail…
    Lip service. How about they stop the funding of IS from their country.


  • #2115
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Isaiah wrote: »
    Himmler was a Nazi. An entirely different and opposite belief system to Christianity. Christians believe all men are equal for one. How does this fit in with the nazi superman?

    No person who believed in Nazism could be Christian. The two are opposing ideals.

    Nazism took more ideas from Hindusm than from Christiany.

    You might be shocked by what you read in Mein Kampf.

    Find a pdf copy, hit ctrl+f, type God/Lord/etc.

    You may need to be sitting first.


  • #2116
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I think we have as much of a problem with the enemy within apolgising for the extremists than the extremists themselves.

    These attacks will become more prevelant because the enemy within were given too much of a voice in society.


  • #2117
    Orangebrigade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Orangebrigade


    realies wrote: »
    My head is far from being in the sand but your simplifying solution has being tried before, and failed and just went on to recruit more people into the ranks of extreme organisation ,
    but then again you being what you are you would no all about heads in sand me auld mate, no surrender.
    It didn't fail. What failed was liberal multiculturalism destroying communities and bringing Islamic nutters in by hand and allowing them to fester.


  • #2118
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wexandproud wrote: »
    when the irish bombed places it was not done as a fundamental part of the catholic religion and there was not hundereds of thousands of people with the same beliefs entering uncontrolled to europe

    Oh that was a great relief to the victims.

    Ye weren't shot and blown up for the wrong cause, but the right one, so don't worry about the millions of Irish around the world...


  • #2119
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Akrasia wrote: »
    I blame islam too, any belief system that venerates martyrdom is abhorrent but there are plenty of people calling for the borders to be shut down. We need to target the extremists.

    You shut the borders to keep these kind of people out. There is no question whatsoever that they are infiltrating the genuine refugees and gaining access to European countries. It's as clear as day. Until there are proper methods of doing background checks then lock up the borders.


  • #2120
    razorblunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I wouldn't go, simply because the city is shut down, I'd more than happily go the day everything opened back up if I could and had it scheduled.


  • #2121
    wexandproud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    efb wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia condemned the attacks

    oh well thats just fantastic ,


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  • #2122
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    play it again wrote: »
    And what action did the Russians take , any suspected terrorists are taken away and never seen again , we haven't seen this in Russia in a while unlike France and the UK , they have closed their borders , unlike Europe who welcome them with open arms and we have the consequences now , we need concentration camps to put these people until they can be expunged from Europe
    There are still loads of people being killed in Russia around the caucasus, you just don't hear about it anymore since it doesn't happen in Moscow. You don't hear much about the ordinary people who disappeared or were murdered as part of Russia's big pacification campaign either.


  • #2123
    play it again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭play it again


    efb wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia condemned the attacks

    Wtf is the point you're trying to make ? At least some on here make a contribution to the thread that might not be very factually correct , but at least they're contributing something to discussion , but a one line post about a despot dictatorship in the middle east is beyond nonsense


  • #2124
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King


  • #2125
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    I think we have as much of a problem with the enemy within apolgising for the extremists than the extremists themselves.

    These attacks will become more prevelant because the enemy within were given too much of a voice in society.

    Who's apologising for extremists?


  • #2126
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Have any of the usual boards suspects found out what the trendy avatar or sig quote is to show your support for the victims yet?


  • #2127
    wexandproud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Oh that was a great relief to the victims.

    Ye weren't shot and blown up for the wrong cause, but the right one, so don't worry about the millions of Irish around the world...

    no , im sure it was terrible for the victims and some of mrs wexandprouds friends were among those victims. I in no way condone the ira but comparing the two is wrong


  • #2128
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    efb wrote: »
    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King

    He's right. Only light can do it. Like the light from the nukes dropped in WWII.

    Good point. You should keep posting that.


  • #2129
    Panrich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭Panrich


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    When the Irish bombed and shot people in other countries, did you think we should have been placed in concentration camps?

    Can people stop the sheer and utter nonsense? Concentration camps? You cannot possibly be serious.

    We are in a fight where one side does not adhere to any rules of human decency and THEY are ultimately responsible for any actions they bring upon their own communities.


  • #2130
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    play it again wrote: »
    Wtf is the point you're trying to make ? At least some on here make a contribution to the thread that might not be very factually correct , but at least they're contributing something to discussion , but a one line post about a despot dictatorship in the middle east is beyond nonsense

    He said the silence was deafening in the muslim world. Im indicating its being condemned by a prominent muslim country


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  • #2131
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »
    Who's apologising for extremists?

    Clare Daly and Mick Wallace, so far. Live tweeting while people were being shot to death.


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